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The Changing Face of Scotland - we need more immigrants!


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noimmigration
Edited by: noimmigration  Dec 27, 07, 15:06  #91

I said I wuld vote for them as a last result, mass eastern european immigration must stop.

britain contains less than 1% of the worlds population yet we take on 3% of the worlds asylum seekers etc.

how much does poland take on. immigration affects us much more than poland.

PolskaDoll wrote:
noimmigration wrote:
what do you work as then polskadoll ?


Moderator..



NO what job do you do, I bet it is unskilled work. I bet you take all kinds of british benefits.

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 27, 07, 15:10  #92

noimmigration wrote:
I have several friends of pakistani and chinese origin,


Including your parents.

noimmigration wrote:
I do think that we should not let in over 700'000 unskilled poles.


You are doing a crappy job.


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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 15:11  #93

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Including your parents.


emmm what ?

Grzegorz_ wrote:
You are doing a crappy job.



I am a student and while my part time job is crappy at least I am doing it in MY f"cking country not yours

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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 15:15  #94

Noimmigration, have the Poles in ur workplace been appraised? If so, how did they fare? I seem to recall u saying that more Scots are being employed which will drive some Poles out perhaps. What kind of jobs are they vying for?


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PolskaDoll
  Dec 27, 07, 15:15  #95

noimmigration wrote:
NO what job do you do, I bet it is unskilled work. I bet you take all kinds of british benefits.


You'll bet wrong then! No I don't take any benefits thanks. I will take them when I need them though...maternity etc, as required.

Lettuce wrote:
The only people in Scotland I've heard moaning about immigrants taking their jobs are the people who have never worked a day in their lives. There arent enough workers here and the birth rate is far below the level required to replace the population


Good points. Most couples in Scotland now stop at 2 kids whereas before it would be 4 or 5 if not more. Careers have become more important. You're right, it does tend to be the unemployed who whinge on about Polish people "stealing" their jobs. Personally, if I was having bother getting a job I'd be out searching for one rather than spending hours on a forum moaning about it.



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Grzegorz_
  Dec 27, 07, 15:16  #96

noimmigration wrote:
emmm what ?


That's obvious.

noimmigration wrote:
I am a student


Of what ?

noimmigration wrote:
I am doing it in MY f"cking country not yours


More Poles are coming soon. When do you think they will fire you ? In 2 months ? 3 ?


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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 15:19  #97

Grzegorz_ wrote:
More Poles are coming soon. When do you think they will fire you ? In 2 months ? 3 ?



I am a law student and scots law is unique so my job is safe, and we wiil see how many more poles are able to crawl here when the government places restrictions

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szkotja2007
  Dec 27, 07, 15:22  #98

noimmigration wrote:
I am a law student

noimmigration wrote:
I bet you take all kinds of british benefits.

I am subsidising your education at the moment and frankly I am disappointed.
noimmigration wrote:
scots law is unique so my job is safe

Not if you hold racists views. Isn't there new laws about racism in Scotland ?


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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 15:24  #99

my dad pays £10,000 of tax a year, my family have wrked in scotland their whole lives, I have worked full time for 5 years before going to university.

you are not paying for my studies polak, how long have you been in the country. ????

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Daisy
  Dec 27, 07, 15:27  #100

noimmigration wrote:
my dad pays £10,000 of tax a year, my family have wrked in scotland their whole lives, I have worked full time for 5 years before going to university

On that sort of income, you'd think he would have paid for you to be better educated


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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 15:31  #101

I was also a student of Scots law for 4 years, and 1 of the top 3 highest scorers in a group of 45 students, but I wasn't guaranteed employment given the size of Scotland. I did a postgrad with a scholarship in International and European Law to increase my chances/options. Paying 10,000 in tax was the govt's decision, not that of immigrants.


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PolskaDoll
  Dec 27, 07, 15:34  #102

There is no guaratee of a job after graduation in Scotland. Ask the thousands of graduates who are working in jobs that have nothing to do with their studies...



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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 15:34  #103

I am not blaming immigrants for my dad paying 10k in tax, I am saying thats how my education is paid for not from the small amounts of tax paid by immigrants wh have only been here for a few years, most of which gets rebated back to them

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PolskaDoll
Edited by: PolskaDoll  Dec 27, 07, 15:35  #104

noimmigration wrote:
how my education is paid for


By people of all incomes paying taxes...



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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 15:39  #105

when poles have been here for only a few years and they claim education, housing, child benefits, income benefits etc. they are not contributing. not to mention the tax rebate they get when they leave.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS

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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 15:40  #106

What do u hope to be upon graduation?


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Frank
  Dec 27, 07, 15:43  #107

noimmigration wrote:
I am a law student and scots law is unique so my job is safe, and we wiil see how many more poles are able to crawl here when the government places restrictions


Troll

noimmigration wrote:
you are not paying for my studies polak, how long have you been in the country. ???


Troll

Such, facistic nonsense...........


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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 15:45  #108

I can tell you that many people operate through contacts in law or closed circles if u plan to be an academic. It's not that easy, trust me. I was tipped to be an academic writer as I often scored well but I was soon woken up.


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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Dec 27, 07, 15:49  #109

if you want to be a legal academic you need to go thru a legthy period of talking about nothing except the relevence of obscure legal suits which becomes very boring for all around you...

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szkotja2007
  Dec 27, 07, 15:52  #110

Seanus wrote:
What do u hope to be upon graduation?

A toilet cleaner ( its one of his fixations ) since hes probably going to charged with incitement to racial hatred or something and so will be prevented from working in law.

Anyway, whats wrong with manual labour ?


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Daisy
  Dec 27, 07, 15:52  #111

BubbaWoo wrote:
which becomes very boring for all around you...

well he's already perfected that one


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BubbaWoo
  Dec 27, 07, 15:54  #112

so it seems

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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 16:00  #113

I was a grasscutter for 3 months back in 1996 when the minimum wage didn't even exist. I worked for 3.71 per hour and then 3.82 after my raise but my stomach was toned and I felt alive after it. Some of my studies bored me to tears. I was prepared to work in a deprived area as are Poles. There were druggies and rough guys aplenty and I worked on the same streets as they walked. I never complained, that's real world work and learning a social skill, survival, hehehe.


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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 16:01  #114

szkotja2007 wrote:
Anyway, whats wrong with manual labour ?


in scotland manual labour is an industry that attracts sub humans from the shallow end of the gene pool. unlike poland.

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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 16:06  #115

People do things for different reasons. Manual labour does attract some undesirables for sure but without these people, vital jobs wouldn't get done. Poles provide these skills through special technical schools which they call technicum


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Daisy
  Dec 27, 07, 16:07  #116

noimmigration wrote:
in scotland manual labour is an industry that attracts sub humans from the shallow end of the gene pool. unlike poland.

So Polish manual workers are of higher intelligence and have better social skills than Scottish ones?......


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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 16:17  #117

Scottish electricians are really good. I don't think it's a question of intelligence, more of skills for the jobs. Both Scots and Poles are pretty cluey when it comes to engineering. Scottish history points to us having the edge but it's not a competition


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noimmigration
  Dec 27, 07, 16:19  #118

Daisy wrote:
So Polish manual workers are of higher intelligence and have better social skills than Scottish ones?......



no, polish immigrants are ready to throw their education away and come to britain to do the most menial jobs

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PolskaDoll
  Dec 27, 07, 16:22  #119

noimmigration wrote:
no, polish immigrants are ready to throw their education away and come to britain to do the most menial jobs


I won't deny a couple of my Polish friends have arrived in Scotland and worked in low paid jobs that didn't warrant their education from Poland. Really though, they were just working to make some money to establish themselves. Now they're in college (or graduated) and the low paid jobs are just seeing them through it.

Can't wait for you to try and land a job after graduation...



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Seanus
  Dec 27, 07, 16:25  #120

Noimmigration has a good point. Many Poles throw away their much cherished education to do menial work. As I've said on another thread, the salaries in Poland don't match their high level of education which is why they move. This needs to be addressed by Mr Tusk


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