I cheated on my girlfriend (I'm British, my gf is Polish)

oddly this is what has happend LS in many high circles esp of old! when you had arranged marriages for eg.

dont agree with it but its happened and it was just being pointed out i think

not so much these days, we are talking about extremely wealthy men who's wives have a very nice lifestyle who accept these kind of thing.



These are very well educated people and by no means low life and how can you say ridiculous to something you know nothing about.

And as Mr D mentions this is not something that happens too much these days, and when he says arranged marriage, he means marriages for status and family alliances.

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I most certainly do not agree, I was merely pointing out to SG the difference between an affair and a mistress

That is what I would expect.
Something like what happened with Princes Diana and Prince Charles: trapped in a loveless marriage and staying in it for children, having affairs to make it bearable.

Is that what you meant (Daffy and Shelley)?

tis true. its what i was saying. mistresses in this envoirn were considered 'norm' many generations ago due to the highly 'political' nature of arranged marriages

but going back to today and cheating on a partner - it IS a taboo and generally accepted as a 'no no' thankfully. And to commit such an act is to end the relationship IMHO

In Russia the oligarches sponsor about 10-15 girls each one.The girl takes 5.000-7.000$ per month and her only duty is to appear when the oligarch calls her,sometimes once or never a month.The oligarchs have wives of course but sponsored girls are satisfied.
I do not know if many british or polish girls would not be happy with such terms.

I wouldn't know but lately there was an article in the papers & an interview on TV about a woman, a mistress, who started a club for mistresses to talk about their man & the men's wives & how hard it is to live that kind of life. So it's certainly out there.

It is not natural for a human being to be with one partner till the end:) if t was natural, people wouldn't cheat:) as simple as that. being monogamist is not an inborn feature of a person, everything depends on the culture in which a person lives. if everyone around u said that it is normal to have five wifes (husbands) people would consider it to be a normal situation and nobody would look down on people who have a lot of partners. However, our world ( or rather the larger part of the world_) created a view that having two partners is bad...but who said so?? Arabs have 3 wifes abd they consider it to be normal, they cannot see anything bad in this fact, because they are surranded by a culture where everybody else have 3 wifes. so as u can see morality is a realy realative thing. Dont know if u understand what i mean hhehehe

i do NOT claim that cheating is a good thing but i wouldnt judge people so hard and.....FIRST RULE ...NEVER SAY NEVER

O.K. for arabs,are there polish girls living in threesome relationships?
I guess there are.

hey everyone, me and my girlfriend have been talking alot,we have agreed to never bring up the subject again. do you think thats a good idea?

The overly majority of Arabs have 1 wife.

Most Arab / Islamic states do not consider it normal. Polygamy is prohibited by law in many secular Arab/muslim countries such as Tunisia or Morocco. Some countries ruled by fundamentalists such as Lybia, the UAE or Saudi Arabia still allow it.

They are not surrounded by a culture where "everybody" has 3 wives.

The epicentre of polygamy is not the Arab world but the christian church of the latter day saints (also known as Mormons) in the USA. Especially in Utah & surrounding states.

All muslim countries allow polygamy because it is based on the coran.Exception is Turkey where you can have not more than three wives.In Dubaj where there are no fundamentalists it is allowed.Some rich Arabs rent russian or european girls for their harems.
Marriages between mormons leading to polygamy are not recognized by recent decision of american court.

i think you should show her how much you care phone her send her flowers etc. she may not want to speak with you but she'll feel definitely that you dont want to loose her good luck!!!!

O.K. muslim countries.There are so few options there that arabs suffer when they see high heeled,busted eastern european girls in hot shorts.It is unfair competition.
I think polish girls get a lot more attention when travelling abroad.
And western guys when travelling to the east.

No they don't ffs. I said secular countries. If you don't know what it means , look it up. Basically, a theocracy is the opposite of a secular state.

A country based on the Qu'ran cannot be a secular country! Turkey is a secular country (if you'd followed the news lately, there have been a couple of millions or Turks protesting against upcoming prime minister Gul as they are afraid to lost their secular state, women in Turkey were allowed to vote in 1914, women in Europe weren't allowed to vote until after the 2nd WW. Reality check.) A link to Article #2 of the Turkish constitution ookgm.meb.gov.tr/Mevzuat_htm/Anayasa.htm

Maleysia, a muslim country, is a secular state (http://www.malaysia-today.net/loonyMY/2005/07/malaysia-is-secular-sta te.htm#Article)
That means it's not based on any book

Indonesia (the biggest muslim country in the world) is a secular country..

Polygamy is prohibited Tunisia, Morocco, etc.. Their constitution is based on old French / English code of law. (Era of colonialism) not on the Quraan

In those countries polygamy is banned by law Please don't post crap such as "All musli countries allow polygamy because it is based on the coran.Exception is Turkey where you can have not more than three wives." if you clearly have no idea what the hell you're talking about, you just keep spreading the prejudices.

If you have more of such comments about how polygamy is allowed in "all muslim countries" please post them, I'd be happy to rip them to shreds.



Harems? Do you still live in the 16th century? Besides that has nothing to do with the subject. What you describe is called "prostitution" is a different issue/problem altogether.



They're not, but it's still the epicentre of polygamy in this day & age.

O.k. I speak about Middle East.Muslim countries in middle East.The others have different traditions.

with regard to polygamous marriages.. Ive met men in different parts of Africa with as many as 13 wives.. although its more normal to have 2 to 4: this is accepted as it is the cultural norm.. the only problem is that the more women you have, the more expensive it is.. although of course there are more hands to work on the land, fetch water, cook etc.. in case you may be thinking otherwise I met them purely in a business capacity, not that I was looking to become one of them.

With regard to the original post and subsequent comments, I think that both sexes are capable of forgiving, depending upon the individual, but its true that no-one can forget. From my own experience I could say that some Polish women, might know about an affair, but choose to ignore it for the sake of keeping their husband, or even tolerate a period of absence from the family home, so long as the husband eventually returned to them. This seems to be especially true of older generations, but of course I am generalising here.

Anyway, good luck to the orginal poster.

soem people i think did not understand what i mean and got worked up heheh. what i ment was that living with one partner is NOT an inborn feature of human being. people simply made the poligamy up. that is all. i gave arab world as an example and didnt want to offend anyone. if i did i'm really sorry:)

ok so lets see in muslim culture its ok to have more than one woman but is there any such thing as a culture where women can have more than one husband ?
And also if its not human nature to stay with one person then why do people get jealous?

not much sense in this question.
what's the relation between jealousy and being with one person.

if you live with two guys and one of them gets interested in another girl, you'll still be jealous, or not?

Yes there is such a thing.....it's called polyandry and is much less common than polygyny (1 man w/more than one women) Both are types of polygamy.

its a toughie im tryin to make sense of it myself. firstly I wouldn,t be with 2 men its hard enough to keep one happy but its tryin to figure out human nature here,
Iv seen for example men havin affairs on their wives and thinking thats ok but if another male oays attention to his wife the husband loses the mind. Why is all i,d like to know.

I prefer being with two girls.However in most cases they are jealous.

Yes because for the man is just a game,a pleasure while wife is supposed to be emotionally bound.

so basically it one rule for a man but another for the woman. men just wanna have it all. If your gonna play the game then play fair!

If women did it only for the pleasure it would be O.K.Problem is most times they have feelings towards lover and this may destroy marriage.

i didn't want it to sound as if i was referring to you in particular.

are you talking about a threesome? a menage a toi? you are kinky girl

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no it didnt dont worry:)

yes very true. men can have sex with no emotion. women do it to show love mostly cos lets face it most of the time its not ecstatic.it becomes a chore in marriage sometimes

sexy-time is a chore?

how about spicing it up with :

handcuffs, whips, strawberries, coolwhip, chocalte syrup and other fun stuff

also change location of sexy-time

have sexy-time in car, park, elevator, library, etc..

sometimes it can be yes
when it does usually a woman will try spice it up where as a man goes off and with someone else!

That's not true. I always show emotions on my face while having sex. Sometimes I even cry like a beaver. :))