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Kowalski
  Mar 16, 08, 07:19  #31

Lukasz wrote:
Also don't wear a watch when in public.


you know they are taking your adivces serious ...


:) I thought I would chip in some crap, ...been reading here too much today.


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icypole [Guest]
  Mar 16, 08, 23:20  #32

Bla wrote:
What kind of IT person? Depending on what you do, you can make from 1500 (if you are unlucky enough) to something like 10 000zl (good programmer for example).



do not delude yourself, the days of these wages are well and truly over, name me one person who earns 10,000zl a month?
You may also mention the high tax rates and rising costs of gas and electricity.
Many Brits who enjoyed the good times are going back home frustrated and disappointed. At least they will get there money back when they change there zlotes to pounds.

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Hiro
  Mar 17, 08, 04:49  #33

daniel1_il wrote:
what i would like to konw is where i can find polish companys who have relations/work
with israeli high tech companys.


Check this: orad.tv or polish site : orad.pl

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Bla
  Mar 17, 08, 07:19  #34

icypole wrote:
do not delude yourself, the days of these wages are well and truly over, name me one person who earns 10,000zl a month?


I don't say that any programmer can earn that much, but best of them do. Most of them earn something between 3-5k.

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Harry
  Mar 17, 08, 13:01  #35

icypole wrote:
do not delude yourself, the days of these wages are well and truly over, name me one person who earns 10,000zl a month?

I know more people who earn double that working in systems admin.

icypole wrote:
You may also mention the high tax rates

19% flat plus £50 a month for ZUS, wow! That's really high!

icypole wrote:
rising costs of gas and electricity.

My gas and electricity bills combined are well under 200zl a month even in mid-winter. Have they been going up? I didn't notice.

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icypole [Guest]
  Mar 17, 08, 15:24  #36

Harry wrote:
I know more people who earn double that working in systems admin.


This is in the minority, the Prime Minster of Poland earns less. Stop trying to give the wrong slant of what people earn in Poland, the average wage is 3000zl most earn more in the range of 2000zl minus tax. people on disability get somewhere in the range of 600zl a month, pensioners get around 800zl.
You may be earning good money now my friend but this will change when there will be a oversupply of IT people (like what has occurred in the west)

3000zl to 5000zl minus tax and zus is not much anyway.

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Buddy
  Mar 18, 08, 17:22  #37

Diesel 600zl pcm
Phone landline, mobiles and internet 400zl
Food 1200zl pcm
bills (water and electr) 300zl
Going out, fun 1200zl pcm

So thats 3700zl pcm NOT INCLUDING RENT OR MORGAGE.

We live in the Tri-city area, our lives are comfortable but not excessive.

Our combined income is between 7,000zl to 9,000zl a month after tax.

Wages do not match the cost of living here.

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icypole [Guest]
  Mar 18, 08, 18:56  #38

Buddy wrote:
Wages do not match the cost of living here.


They sure don't buddy, in your case that is, you must net over 14,000zl a month, what sort of work do you do?
How do people on survive on the average wage of 3000zl net (1800zl gross)
How much money do you need for a house deposit and how much could you borrow and still pay for the necessities of life.

A lot of people on this forum like to impress others and overstate what they earn, Poles are like that!!!

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telefonitika
  Mar 18, 08, 19:04  #39

i was told you cant compare the cost of living in poland to anyway in the world you are from .... wise words .. from a wise friend ... :)


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Buddy
Edited by: Buddy  Mar 18, 08, 19:22  #40

icypole wrote:
you must net over 14,000zl a month


Er...I said 7,000 to 9,000. Thats net. Divisible by my wife and I. No great shakes.

Life is expensive, especially if you try to maintain the lifestyle to what you are used to abroad.

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icypole [Guest]
  Mar 18, 08, 19:31  #41

Sorry I misread the message.



Buddy wrote:
No great shakes.
true I think some people have a habit of shaking something else if you get the drift.

I know a lot of professional people in Poland and unless your self employed in production/food industry getting above 10,000 zl is a hard call.
Very few people who teach english get more than 3500zl, some get bit more but this will change in the future.

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Buddy
  Mar 18, 08, 19:38  #42

Hmm, I do teach English much to my Chargin but whats a chap to do when he speaks unitelligeble Polish. I am very lucky since my boss is a friend and I'm treated very well.

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Harry
  Mar 19, 08, 03:47  #43

icypole wrote:
Very few people who teach english get more than 3500zl, some get bit more but this will change in the future.

Here in Warsaw people make a lot more than 3500zl per month. The average school is paying 45zl net for 45 minutes. Teach 90 minutes in the morning, two 90 minute blocks in the evening and you earn 270zl a day, 1350zl a week, 5400zl a month.

On that salary it is possible to borrow up to 400,000zl on a 30-year mortgage and the repayments will be in the region of 1800zl a month. Try buying a flat in the centre of London and having enough money left from your salary to buy food.

Sure Poland is not as cheap as it was, but I certainly have a far better lifestyle than my friends in the UK.

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ICYPOLE [Guest]
  Mar 19, 08, 04:14  #44

Harry wrote:
The average school is paying 45zl net for 45 minutes. Teach 90 minutes in the morning, two 90 minute blocks in the evening and you earn 270zl a day, 1350zl a week, 5400zl a month.


LOL, I take it you don't pay tax.. How much tax and zus do you pay on 5400zl??

The banks will not lend you the full amount on a flat, and what can you buy for 400,000 zl, some run down 2 room flat in a dirty grey building, wow how lovely.
You teachers from blighty will learn your lessons one day and it will not be good.

FOOD AND SERVICES ARE GOING UP, WAGES ARE REMAINING THE SAME, THE GOOD TIMES ARE OVER.

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Harry
  Mar 19, 08, 12:41  #45

ICYPOLE wrote:
LOL, I take it you don't pay tax..

Yes I do pay tax. Lots. Every month. I also pay ZUS and VAT.
ICYPOLE wrote:
How much tax and zus do you pay on 5400zl??

Which part of "45zl net for 45 minutes" do you not understand?
ICYPOLE wrote:
The banks will not lend you the full amount on a flat,

Have you asked them? As a matter of fact they will lend 110% of the value of a property. Or at least they would this morning when my good friend applied for a mortgage.
ICYPOLE wrote:
and what can you buy for 400,000 zl, some run down 2 room flat in a dirty grey building, wow how lovely.

If grey and dirty is not your thing, Warsaw isn't the city for you. 400,000 will actually by an apartment in excellent condition in a good neighbourhood close to the city centre.
ICYPOLE wrote:
You teachers from blighty will learn your lessons one day and it will not be good.

Things are certainly a hell of a lot better than they were when I arrived here 13 years ago.

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