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Croats (Serbians) are Polish origin?


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Babylon
  Dec 8, 06, 15:27  #1

Croatians, Serbians came to the Balkans from areas of present Poland and they settled there. One of scientific theories assumes that Poles originated from Croatians (Serbians). Language of Croats and Serbians is very similar to Polish, much more then Czech or Slovak. so in my opinion Poles and Croats (Serbians) a long time ago were one tribe, that split into Croats and Serbians on the south, Poles (present-day Poland) and Sorbs (present day Germany, almost 100% germanized).

From wikipedia: The origin of the Croatian tribe before the great migration of the Slavs is uncertain. According to the most widely accepted[24], "Slavic" theory, in the 7th century, the Croatian tribe moved from the area north of the Carpathians and east of the river Vistula (referred to as White Croatia [present day Poland]) and migrated into the western Dinaric Alps.

I hope i was useful to know much more about our origin, to me it is the most possible theory due to almost the same language

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 8, 06, 16:39  #2

All Slavs at some time were one tribe.

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Templar [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 17:14  #3

I strongly disagree that Croatian and Serbian are more similar to Polish than Czech or Slovak. I would even say that of all Slavic languages Crt/Sbn is (are?) the most difficult for us, Poles, to understand. On the other hand, Czech or Slovac languages, what you claim are less similar to Polish than Croatian/Serbian, are the easiest. From my personal experience, I talked to Slovaks (or Czechs) in Polish, they answered in their own languages and we undestood each other very well. As it comes to my friend Croat, we communicate in English.
Out of 3 major branches of the Slaves, Croatians and Serbians formed so called "Southern" branch unlike Poles, Czechs or Slovaks who made up the "Western" branch.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:34  #4

From what I have read poles came from a mix of germans and russians. Is this true?

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bolo
  Dec 8, 06, 19:37  #5

Quoting: YANTA, Post #4
From what I have read poles came from a mix of germans and russians. Is this true?

Well, if you mean breed of dogs, it may be true.

But it fact, your theory is like saying that "Japanese came from Chinese and Mongolians."

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:47  #6

I had an ancestry DNA test and my highest match was Poland, then Croatian, then Serbian. What a coincidence.

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bolo
  Dec 8, 06, 19:48  #7

Quoting: Guest02, Post #6
I had an ancestry DNA test

How can they tell your nationality based on DNA test...?

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:49  #8

Hi bolo. How are you doing, sexy? Sorry. I couldn't resist.

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:50  #9

DNA is the same within certain ancestries.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:52  #10

The DNA test he is referring too is actually quite pricey to do.

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:53  #11

She. I'm a woman.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:55  #12

Quoting: Guest02, Post #11
She. I'm a woman.



przepraszam...

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bolo
  Dec 8, 06, 19:55  #13

Quoting: Guest02, Post #8
Hi bolo. How are you doing, sexy? Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Good, thanks! I'm glad you (also) think I'm sexy .

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 19:55  #14

You're hot stuff. Mmmm.

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bolo
  Dec 8, 06, 19:56  #15

Quoting: YANTA, Post #10
The DNA test he is referring too is actually quite pricey to do.

Well, so hitler was right then.. about human races at least :}

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Crazy Horse
  Dec 8, 06, 20:35  #16

The onlything hitler ever got right was how to hang wallpaper!

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 20:48  #17

Quoting: bolo, Post #15
Well, so hitler was right then.. about human races at least :}


But no one is exactly like you, bolo. You're like no other.

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YANTA [Guest]
Edited by: YANTA  Dec 8, 06, 21:14  #18

Acutally he was quite inteligent. Got alote of things right. Don't buy into anti german WW2 propagada too much. Anyone who says the soviets were any better clearly has never lived through a soviet regimine

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krysia
  Dec 8, 06, 21:33  #19

Quoting: Guest02, Post #17
But no one is exactly like you, bolo. You're like no other.

I've lost him......

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Guest02 [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 22:00  #20

Quoting: krysia, Post #19
I've lost him......


Don't worry. No one can come between you and bolo.

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krysia
  Dec 8, 06, 22:20  #21

He's a cute little devil, isn't he?
But I'll share. I'm sure he'd like that!

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Moralny
Edited by: Moralny  Dec 9, 06, 10:56  #22

Quoting: YANTA, Post #4
From what I have read poles came from a mix of germans and russians. Is this true?


"Comparison of Y-chromosomes of Russian populations provides diwfferent results. Only the Pskov and coast-dweller populations are close along the paternal line to the Finno-Ugric and Baltic nations of the Northern and Eastern Europe, the overwhelming majority of Russians are relatives to the Poles, Ukrainians and Byelorussians. "

B. A. Malyarchuk
Differentiation and Genetic Position of Slavs among Eurasian Ethnic Groups as Inferred from Variation in Mitochondrial DNA:

"The results testified to a common origin of West, South, and East Slavs and revealed a central place of West Slavs among all Slavonic ethnic groups. Mixing was shown to play a substantial role in the formation of specific features of all three Slavonic gene pools."

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So I would say that Russians are from Poles.

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Ok. I have been reading about DNA recently and it’s quite interesting (I noticed that americans are really crazy about finding their roots)

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I will use this thread to explain girls why ‘East Europen men are truthful lovers’

About haplogroup R1a

Haplogroup is inherited from father by son (male line).
In human genetics, Haplogroup R1a1 (M17) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup, that is spread across Eurasia.

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a1_(Y-DNA) )

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Ica Age and Haplogroups in Europe:

IMG1
IMG2

Haplogroups today in Europe:
IMG3

About Aryan invasion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Invasion_Theory_(history_and_contro versies)


About the Sanskrit language

The Sanskrit language is a classical language of India, a liturgical language of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, and one of the 22 official languages of India.

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit)

Sanskrit and Liuthuanian (source: http://postilla.mch.mii.lt/Kalba/baltai.en.htm )

Lithuanian is the most archaic language from Proto-Indo-European languages/Balto-Slavic language

Polish world ‘budzic’ means ‘wake up’.

So I am going to heart.of the metter.

In Europe male population has mainly haplogroup R1b, I, R1a

Lets look above at maps from Ice Ages again:

What do You see?

West Europen people lived thousands years in small peninsule (Spain) I am sure that a live wasnt easy there. Simply It was a some kind of humen catalyst. The most inteligent and/or cunning and/or cruel men has the biggest chance to survive and to have a children/descendants. And today I think the procent of such kind of people is the biggest in West Europen countries and USA comparing to other regions, countries of the world. (My english ).

Have you ever heard about East Europen film like thriller ‘the Silence of the Lambs’? I havnt. For me screenwriters of such kind of films are a little sick. You know ‘dark side’ and the differance between Hollywood and Bollywood productions is huuuge.

Hmm what about I was talking?

Och yea about lovers.

Kamasutram, generally known to the Western world as Kama Sutra, is an ancient Indian text on human sexual behavior, widely considered to be the standard work on love in Sanskrit literature.

Budda - R1a, Inventor of Kamasutra - R1a

So:
R1a = truthful lover
R1b = french/peninsula lover

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Moralny
Edited by: Moralny  Dec 9, 06, 11:12  #23

Dont take this seriously of course but this DNA tests are interesting. What about Hitler and Aryan-racist theory in that context, Slavic people etc.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 12:48  #24

Quoting: Moralny, Post #23
Dont take this seriously of course but this DNA tests are interesting. What about Hitler and Aryan-racist theory in that context, Slavic people etc.


Many of the soviets claimed they didn't want to fight the germans in the war , they had no choice. Certain laws of the third reich show some tolerance even with the jewish people. Alote of what you read and such is not all the truth after WW2 german was plauged with a curse and all kinds of things were promoted.

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 9, 06, 13:25  #25

Quoting: YANTA, Post #24
Certain laws of the third reich show some tolerance even with the jewish people. Alote of what you read and such is not all the truth after WW2 german was plauged with a curse and all kinds of things were promoted.


And grandpa Adolf was a nice, friendly guy... People look you only make all others with national wievs look like idiots.

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 9, 06, 14:10  #26

fair dinkums...perhaps not...

but they are used to illustrate a valid point, whether you like it or not...

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Huegel
  Dec 9, 06, 14:11  #27

Are you deliberately being obtuse bubba?

Acutally he (hitler) was quite inteligent. Got alote of things right.


and the big photos.... sorry, but i don't really want to read and view these topics as i find it offensive.

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Wroclaw
  Dec 9, 06, 14:12  #28

Quoting: YANTA, Post #26
But also had a kind side.


Yeah ! Instead of death today, we'll put it off 'til tomorrow.

YANTA, you need to check the word 'Propaganda'

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FISZ
  Dec 9, 06, 14:13  #29

Quoting: BubbaWoo, Post #31
but they are used to illustrate a valid point, whether you like it or not...


That he may've been friendly for propaganda photos? The questione is...who really cares??

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FISZ
  Dec 9, 06, 14:15  #30

YANTA you're probably the person to believe they built a swimming pool for the prisoners in the concentration camp.

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