Crow: Poles, I am Serb from Serbia- from place of great resistance

I am interesting for all topics in connection with Slavic world and I seek to study possibilities for Slavic Union. Call me naive but, that`s me.

From long time ago, because of experience of my family, I heard a lot of about Poles. A lot of good.

I studied Slavic history, too.

So, I salute you Poles and I present one song to this auditorium of Polish ladies and gentleman’s...


Brothers from the North
Is there nobody from there that has a heart & soul,
to look on Southern regions, on Serbs- if only for a moment,
Only,
where lost in the sea a handful Sarmatian is fighting to survive in Blood
Brothers, is this hell of your judgment, that silence,
are you convinced that Serbs are bad guys,
or you just sleep?
A inhumane fist is threatening to mince us all!
scum of this world drink our blood as to take away this strength that is left,
and when feed themselves with our blood, they would seek for next Slavic victim
Through a thousand summers and winters, we fought with the devil as not to loose our bodies and souls to him,
Egyptian chariots, Greek hoplites, Roman legions, Teutons and their German descendents, Mongols, Tatars, Huns, Turkish beasts, Albanian plague…
They offered great rewards to us- if we just stop to exist as Slavs,
If we give up from our freedom, from our history, from our future…
We refused, we resisted, we still resist,
Resistance is our second name,
because, what are we without golden freedom?
Freedom we demand! Freedom for all Serbs and Slavs!
Freedom for White Garden of Slavia after thousand years of nights, last Gate Keeper of Sarmatia demand!
Brothers from the North- sons and daughters of Poland,
can we not rely on you, to urgently send brotherly help, understandings at least, at a time when death hovers upon us all,
From those my brothers that have killed us for centuries!
Serbian lands are on its knees, on the shame of whole Slavdom…
in ruins, in blood and in pain but, in dignity
Through a thousand summers and winters,
with memories and with dream about united Slavic world,
Serbian highlanders, from the beginning of time…

The great tragedy is that Serbs are divided into Croats - Christians, Bosnians - Islam, Serbs - East Church. I noticed that Bosnians and Croats are Serbs not long ago. It is a great tragedy that also Kosovo is Albanian now. You live in a dangerous zone. I am interested in Croats/Serbians when I heard that "White Serbia" was a today Poland and Serbians came to Yugoslavia from today Poland so it means that Polish peoples originate from Serbs, or Serbs are descendant of Poles, or a long time ago we were one nation. When I started to learn Croatian/Serbian language I notice it is very similar and easy to learn. I started to listen Severina when I heard her in Eurovison Song Contest. And what is weirdness SORBS or SERBIANS from LUŻYCE have the most similar to Polish language more that Slovak, We and SORBS have the same letters and many the same words. And We know that from "White Serbia" Serbians/Croats went south, SORBS to the west and Poles stayed in "White Serbia". During WWII Sorbs were trying to get under Polish State and not German but Stalin did not agree. And now the SORBS are dying under cruel GERMANISATION. I wish you all the best my Slav friend.

That would be great if this could happen. Well the future "SLAVDOM" will include the nations on the flag, but it may vary cuz nowadays we don't know who will be in it. But if we look on the geography also Hungary and Romania should be inside SLAVDOM, cuz they will be left alone, I think.

Well I will tell you my friend that in Poland there is a well known prophecy that "Poland will be from Baltic Sea to Black Sea, and will return to prehistoric time (1 rzeczpospolita" it is explained that Poland, Hungary and Romania will united as well as Ukraine and other countries (they will not change they faith, but will be under a Polish Protection) This prophecy is based in 1700 years, many are skeptic to it but who knows

Once upon a time there was Sarmatia Europae and Sarmatia Asiatica.

By your description you speak about Sarmatia Europae and you maybe can’t even imagine how deeply you are right but, don’t forget to take in consideration Sarmatia Asiatica, too.

If Slavic autohtonistic theory is right- we can say that in time of Proto Slavs, our beautiful SAMORODNA Mother Slavia was stretched from Europe, via parts of Eurasia and Near East, to the regions of old Persia and around Ind River.

Aryans were nothing more then branch of Proto Slavs and Sarmatians are missed link.

Sarmatian story is Slavic story.


Theory about Great migration of Slavs (old people in general) slowly but surely losing when confront with arguments of Slavic autohtonistic theory.

Scholars such are Italian Mario Alinei (PCT, Paleolithic Continuity Theory) are among biggest protagonists of theory of long and continual Slavic existence.


But now, don’t get me wrong. I wouldn’t suggest that Slavdom (Slavia) must consists from all of its old territories. No, that belong to past. Just, it would be nice if we can save as many as possible territories, especially those under control of Slavic governments or even territories which belong to people which obviously was Slavic in the past: Hungaria (Hungarized- Great Moravians), Romania (Romanized- Dachians), Austria (Germanized- old Charantania), Eastern Germany (Germanized- Pomerania, Lusatia),…


Do you know that Serbian Radical Party suggested that if Germany recognizes independence of Kosovo & Metohija- Serbia respond with reciprocity and declare that Serbia consider Lusatia under German occupation. Then, would be sand call to all Slavs to support salvation of that Slavic region. In the same time Serbia would also send call for support in liberation of her legitimitate territory of Kosovo & Metohija. It seams that pan-Slavic elements in Russia (right wing) support that scenario.


Babylon...listen,

I think that name Slavia has biggest chance for designation of Slavic Union but, for sure Serbs won’t complaint if name of Poland become synonym for future unity.

I am even sure that Serbian influence on Russians can help that they also accept that concept. Just imagine…

As compromise I suggest Warszawa as Capitol city. You think that it can satisfy Poles?


...and, I agree with you that Slavs united in Democratic Slavic Union should continue to live with their faith. Why should they change faith?

Slavic people are diverse, same as our languages. Our customs are similar but, also unique from region to region. It wouldn’t be interesting without differences. Catholics should be OUR bridge to relations with Vatican, Protestants bridge to protestant world, Orthodox Slavs bridge to Orthodoxy, etc, etc… Differences are our strength, not weaknesses. That is result of OUR historic experience which, after all belong to Mother Slavia and to all of us.

What is most important- That level of multiculturalism I can accept and live with. Multiculturalism inside of Slavic world with offered hand to all other people (non-Slavs) for cooperation.

Cooperation YES, assimilation NO! That’s how I see multiculturalism.

White Garden of Slavia must survive and prosper!

And we salute you too

I don't think that today Polish Party that rules Poland will also support - good relationship with fu***ing Germany for every cost and that hurts me the most. Now in Poland there is the most "AntiGerman Government" in all history since 1989 so maybe this will happen. But You can't change future. Albanians are there in Kosovo - I watched once on TV little Albanian girl crying and that makes me really sad I thought "Is she guilty?, -No" - But when comes to independent it takes the biggest prize and when it's war it's hard to feel sorrow for your enemy even Children, Polish Hero Czarnecki is in our national anthem, one of the most well known in Poland, and like I read he also murdered in cruel way Ukrainian children and Woman - but almost nobody knows about it in Poland and he is Hero - one of the most bravest in Polish History. Well It is obvious that Yougoslav voice: "Ne damo Kosovo jer ne damo Srbiju!" is right.

First step is to united Croatia, Serbia & Bosnia-Hercegovina, Montenegro into one country - if the language you speak is "the same almost" there is no necessary to divide - with this country could create one Nation State. Do you agree?

In Europe I see this: German nations (Germany, The Netherlands, Norway, etc.), Slavic nations, and Latin nations, and English peoples, who live on their Island and don't give a fu*k about continent. Poland relationship with Russia is very very bad, I hope it could be better.

My first postulate to create Slavic Union is:

1# Completely destroy German countries: Germany, Austria, and German part of Switzerland, why Germans have 3 countries, and Sorbs have none? Germany lost the WWII and still rule EU? That must change and I hope it will change!

Thanks

how it s possiblle that serbian anthem has the same melody as polish one?

Babylon,




Very good flag. Thank you very much.


Hire is something what I found on the Net in case with unity of Slavs...




Something about Serbian province of Kosovo...

Hey, you forgot Uralic peoples that means Finns & Estonians and the more distant cousins to them, the Hungarians



I understand to your antipathy towards Germany and you are right about it's ruling in EU. But would destroying Germany, Austria and German part Switzerland make you any better than the Germans who tried to do same thing to Slavs in WW II ? Besides Swiss Germans don't feel themselves as Germans at all but Swiss. Even their language differs.

I heard comment on that from one guy

...because we are ONE and, so that Germans know that they first must finish with us before they advance on Poland,

...and, so that OUR Russian brothers understand and avoid to make foolish mistakes.


Balkan Serbs don’t give a sh** about religious differences between Slavs. In our dreams and visions, we see only our wounded Mother Slavia, in agony. She would preserve few tears for all of us.


We pray to Our Lord to help us that we heal our Serbian nation and that Orthodox Serbs combine with their brothers- Catholic Serbs. In the same time we hope that Islamized Serbs of Bosnia could come back to us, to Christian faith- no matter as Catholics or Orthodox.


NOTE: When I say Catholic Serbs, I don’t point on Croats. True Croats are only people in three regions of today’s Croatia- Zagreb, Krizevci and Varazdin. That is so called KAJKAVIAN (kajkavski) speaking region. All other regions of today’s Croatia: Dalmatia, Dubrovnik, Slavonia, Baranja, Krajina (Lika, Banija, Kordun) are ethnic Serbian territories and populated with ethnic Serbs (some were Catholic Serbs, some were Orthodox). Even today, no matter all pressure, people of those regions still speak Serbian language and ironicaly, Serbian is official language in whole Croatia (in Bosnia and Hercegovina, too) but, official Croatia designate language as Croatian- no matter that science confirmed that it is Serbian. Istria (also mostly in today’s Croatia) belong to Slovenian people and to Slovenia.

All those regions were on the silver plate given from Germany, Austria and Hungaria to the spiritually Germanized Croatia and population was brutally transformed into Croats, exterminated with genocide or expelled on the left side of Drina River into Serbia. Greater Croatia was created and Greater Albania is on the way if THEY take Kosovo from Serbs. THEY already created new Islamic state in Bosnia-Hercegovina, also on Serbian (Slavic) ground.


...in the same time Serbs and Serbia were victims of enormous propaganda machinery.

Final goal of German (obviously with support of corrupt Western governments) operations on Balkan is assimilation (germanization/maybe even Islamization) of Slavs in the region. There are indications that they tend to share control over key trade routes in Europe with Turkey and Islamic world in general. Croats (people absolutely loyal and devoted to German interests) and Albanians (Turkish-Lebanese in origin, some are Islamized/Albanized Serbs) are just tools in much bigger game (just to finish with Serbs, who are loyal to Slavdom) and mujaheedines are support from Islamic world and Al Queda.

I love Croats and Croatia, especially that I can read their written cuz I don't know this cyrylica, but why they are "Germanized" or love Germany, if this is true - I must change my attitude towards them? So you are saying that Croats were created in a plastic way to make them progerman and prowestern tribe?

man who can't think for himself is a pathetic weakling

I think Babylon was just asking a question of Crow, trying to understand what was meant by Crow's post. Bab's post doesn't mean he necessarily agrees with it.

blackadder...you confuse me.
Sometimes you seem open minded, but then you will react with so much prejudice to someone's words without keeping the context. I don't get it?

that was not intended to babylon,but for those who cannot think with their head.
i think bab's asked him a philosophical question...

and my dear girl,you don't have defend crow's persona all the time,because if you noticed from my posts,i am still open minded,more than him you must admit.
but also agressive when he attacks my country and all it represents.i don't touch his,because i don't find it interesting nor polite.
i never said bad things for his people in general,because being a fool doesn't come with nationality,ask Freud.some people are simply born as one...

Ok....well I guess it didn't sound that way to me. I guess I am expecting you to be trigger happy in your response to political hot topics. My bad! Sorry :)

none taken.
kiss-kiss!

Crow, you're avatar changed into a.........crow! How fitting! :)