Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like?

Sitting over there behind the mountains? Quite possible. And that they never did any significant waves.


I knew you will say this, Torqi :)

You don't find any similarities apart from the drinking?

I'm surprsed as it is a comparison I hear regularly - from Poles too I should add.

What if you exclude Slavic countries?

* Slavic Europe

B

* Belarus
* Bosnia and Herzegovina
* Bulgaria

C

* Croatia

C cont.

* Czech Republic

M

* Republic of Macedonia
* Montenegro

P

* Poland

R

* Russia

S

* Serbia
* Slovakia
* Slovenia

U

* Ukraine

With the Irish?
Sure - Catholics, fighting for independence, emigration...

I was only stating the obvious :)

You don't think that the drinking cultures are different?


I'm curious about the Hungarian association, other than historic ties, how are Poles and Hungarians more similar than say Poles and Czechs?

I do as it happens, very different really - but it was Monika who made the statement.

Poles and Hungarians are very similar, if you compare things like: history, love of fatherland,
honour, honesty, bravery, decency, magnitude of spirit and the overall greatness (which can
clearly be seen when you look at the history of both nations.)



Czechs are OK and I have nothing against them, but, apart from a similar language, there's
not much connecting us with our southern neighbours.

I guess we just know we're different... It seems Czechs have different character and mentality... We like them, but... Poles drink vodka and Czechs drink beer, you know xD

Czechs are more pragmatic, I think, Poles are hot heads, probably like Hungarians ;)


LOL

And modesty... ;D

But that could be said for any country.

Culturally, they seem more Germanic with a splash of Balkan thrown in there for good measure.


I agree with the first part, but I think the Hungarians are quite pragmatic as a people.

Not at all.

How's your Polish, Convex? If it's good enough, I'll send you "Węgierski łącznik" - excellent
book on Polish-Hungarian common traits and ties between our countries. Maybe then you
will understand why 10% of all members of the first Hungarian parliament after the fall
of Soviet Union spoke Polish and you might be able to grasp the idea of Polish-Hungarian
brotherhood. There's a vast literature on the subject anyway - PM me if you're interested
and I'll prepare a list of books and scientific publications for you.


Sociological research and numerous surveys conducted by Hungarian and Polish
scientists point to similar character traits and attitudes to various aspects of life
in Poles and Hungarians. Germanic influence is probably present in both our nations
(oh, well - nobody's perfect.) Also, genetically Poles and Hungarians are very similar...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_people

Well, I don't know any Hungarians, so I'm just guessing ;) It's just when I look at their history it seems they liked uprisings, as we did ;)))

So, maybe that "splash of Balkan" does the trick? ;)
Do you know any Hungarians?

Not well enough for it to be worth the time, I'll read some write ups on it though :)


There was a thread going a while back about genetic similarities, if I recall correctly, Hungarians had a fairly healthy Balkan and Germanic mix. Will have another look.


That's interesting as I would peg them more as being closer to Germanic and Romanian culture.


Yea, I just got an apartment in Debrecen (work...). But then again, it's one of the centers of Protestantism in Hungary..

Erm...so Poles are Mongols????

Wonders never cease...

;)

I think we're like the South Africans. They don't seem awkward at all.

Hungarians are closet Germans, as are the Czechs...so!

;)

I don't think such a judgment is relevant. Hungary was a pawn in the battle of giants: no matter who they allied with as long as they could change nothing. Romanians collaborated with Nazis too... did they "hurt" you as much as the SU did? They didn't or to be precise they didn't impact you as much as the SU did, cause they weren't those who shared the pie either.

The question is would Poland have been given any independence (even that under the nazi-puppet regime), if the Soviets lost the war?

As for the topic I believe it's the matter of personal opinion. One could find similarities in any nation depending on one's personal attitude towards a nation.

A joke I hope!

I'm not writing about this.
I'm writing about something else...
In 1939 Horthy refused to let the Nazi troops march through Hungarian territory to Poland and he ordered to put explosives in the railway tunels in case Germans tried to go through them by force, Hungarian soldiers helped Poles, a lot of people who were to be arrested by Gestapo were saved on the territories governed by Hungarians. You can read about stuff like this in here ("Stosunek do Polaków"), but it's in Polish:


pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_W%C4%99gier#Stosunek_do_Polak.C3.B3w

Stalin eagerly invaded Poland, ordered to kill Polish officers, the Red Army and NKVD was hunting down AK soldiers... The difference is visible, I think...


Sorry, BB, but we're nothing like Germans...

I met some recently in Prague and you know what, if being friendly and enjoying a drink means they are like the Irish, then yes they most certainly are, spent a weekend in Cork a few years back and came back with a 100% positive view of the Irish..

Who are:

Britain is a bastard nation, so we are quite unique! We've been mixing with other cultures for centuries so have a mixtures of many different traits..I'd like to think we're like the French, but unfortunately we're too polite...

Are you Hungarian?

Hungarians had been part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire for a long time, soaked in german culture...Brothers in arms in WWI, losers, terrible punished by the victors losing territory, towns, people, brothers in arms in WWII, again terrible punished by the victors...

So many similiarities and connections!

No, sorry, I've misunderstood you :)

Some of your points would be a great material to discuss about in another thread :-)

Ha ha - no, not the French at all. At least not in my opinion.

If anyone, I'd say the Germans - although I've a sneaking suspicion that not too many people from either country would agree.

But of course that's only because they can't see the wood for the trees.

: )

By the way I'm talking really the English here rather than the British as such.


LOL - I love this by the way!

I don't know, BB, Hungarians are Finno-Ugric people, not Germanic... Somehow they don't strike me as similar to Germans...
But I don't know any Hungarians, so...

Do Germans have any sentiment for Hungarians? And vice versa?

This cannot be answered unfortunately.

Apparently, there is no recorded example in the world of anyone having met a Hungarian.

The CIA are currently carrying out an investigation to ascertain whether or not the so-called country of Hungary actually exists.

xDDDDDDD

You made me laugh at loud ;D

Germans have...not only stemming from the times of the Empire, or the two world wars (my own Grandfather was best friends with an hungarian count who invited our family to live on his estate after the war...but..well...you know what had happened instead).

Then there was the Budapest uprising so similiar to our East Berlin uprising and then of course that many East Germans loved to make holiday in Budapest and at the Balaton..sniffing a whiff of freedom or going all the way as Hungarians made it possible for GDR refugees to flee...

So there are alof of positive sentiments regarding the Hungarians in Germany! :)

Yip...

1. refused Germany the military access for attack on Poland in 1939

2. put explosives in railway tunnels to blow them up in case Germans tried to use them

3. gave asylum to Polish civilians and military personel in 1939

(too bad my thread about Poland and Hungary in September 1939 seems to have dissapeared
from the forum :-/)

4. allowed Polish military intelligence and counter intelligence to have a base for its
operations in Hungary (with unofficial support of Hungarian government, which was
really pissing the Germans off.)

5. during Warsaw Uprising, Hungarian units released Polish freedom fighters who were
taken prisoner by Germans and given under Hungarian custody :)

etc. etc. and so on and so on und so weiter und so weiter i tak dalej... :)

Some "allies" and "brothers in arms" :)

Sorry, BB, you can't have Hungarians - they're ours.

*you can have the Czechs though*

Yup...as you talk about misty concepts we have the pragmatic facts on our side...so there! ;)