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Czerwony Lis
  Mar 28, 08, 18:39  #1

I should have introduced myself prior to posting in the genealogy forum. Anyway,
I'm into genetic genealogy - DNA testing to trace your ancient heritage, regular genealogy (member of PGSA), wildlife, and some topics related to the Polonia in Chicago. Stumbling on this site has been really great since there are some nice people here that have interesting opinions and questions that center around may favorite topic Poland. Although born in the US my parents are from Poland so I've been given a pretty heavy dose of Polish culture. I'll be checking the genealogy and history sections regularly and if you got questions I'll see what I can do. I'm sure I may have some myself. The hot techno topic today is DNA testing to determine your ancient heritage (for both men and women). I've done some extensive testing and found out some very cool things about my Polish ancestry.

Czerwony Lis in Polish is red fox.

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polishgirltx
  Mar 28, 08, 18:43  #2

welcome red fox....enjoy!

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szkotja2007
  Mar 28, 08, 18:46  #3

Hi CL - there have been some interesting threads about genetics and DNA make ups. Must confess I dont understand the technical side of it. Welcome to the forums.

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Grzegorz_
  Mar 28, 08, 19:04  #4

Welcome CL.

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Mali
  Mar 28, 08, 19:34  #5

Hey there Red Fox.

Have you ever watched CSI: Miami? My mom calls Horatio the "rudy lis" :)

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Czerwony Lis
  Mar 28, 08, 19:56  #6

szkotja2007 wrote:
Must confess I dont understand the technical side of it.


The testing is simple, the interpretation is the complex side. Polish people have several different lineages based on where their ancestors came from. Does Szkotja refer to a town like Skotniki or to the Scots that settle Poland? Or am I just missing the boat altogether? I'll be happy to answer questions about genetic genealogy. You can find out if people with the same surnames are related or the results can show that your ancestors traveled great distances. I've got distant matches with people in Scotland, England, Poland and India. Based on the differences you can figure out what potential historical event our ancestors may have been in involved in. For instance there may have been a Polish viking in my ancestry as well as a Sarmatian during Roman times. Man, I thought history was totally boring until I found out that my ancestors were part of it.

Thanks for the welcome. Dzienkuje!

polishgirltx wrote:
welcome red fox....enjoy!

I've seen a couple posts of yours thanks for the welcome!

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Welcome CL.

Grzegorz thank you as well.

Mali wrote:
Have you ever watched CSI: Miami? My mom calls Horatio the "rudy lis" :)

I haven't , but I'll try to catch an episode. I'm trying to remeber which CSI show Jorgia Fox is on. Sly is the rudy lis. Your mom know the character of the fox very well.

Seriously if you guys are interested in learning more about genetic genealogy I'll be happy to explain in regular terms what it's all about. It's up to you to go further.


Also I'm looking for any Sliwinski's that are interested in finding lost relatives.

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szkotja2007
  Mar 28, 08, 20:18  #7

Czerwony Lis wrote:
Or am I just missing the boat altogether?

It was me that missed the boat. I misspelled "Szkocja".
I am from the north of Scotland where a lot of genetic researching gets done. Its on the periphery of Europe so there hasn't been much mixing over the centuries ( please, no jokes about small gene pools ! ).

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Czerwony Lis
  Mar 28, 08, 20:35  #8

Duh. There was mixing about a 1000 years ago due to the Vikings. But I really think that Scots are really cool. I especially like the brough (darn it I can't spell it.)
Some of the genetic info that I found out indicates that Poles were associated with some of the Danish Viking invasions. Sorry.

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szkotja2007
  Mar 28, 08, 20:41  #9

In a lot of genetic studies control groups are taken from the Highlands of Scotland as rural areas generally have less of a transient population than cities.

Within rural communities there are often " clusters" of some genetic or familial traits due to a stable population.

There, that sounds better than saying I come from a small gene pool.

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Czerwony Lis
  Mar 29, 08, 08:00  #10

Well said. Rural and indigenous populations are the best to serve as controls. Since they have preserved their genetics over the long term.

Genetic testing for genealogy reveals really deep ancestry from groups of people that originated 10's of thousands of years ago, indicating where people from all over europe originally came from. There are several haplogroups(about 7) one could belong to in Europe (there are many more worldwide). By determining your group you can determine their origins. Most men in the UK (including Scotland) are R1b, but a minority are R1a (mostly considered Viking influence). But both R groups originated in central Asia. R1b migrated to western Europe, while R1a stopped in Eastern Europe. In Poland R1a represents about 40%+ of the population. But you never know which group you belong to until tested. Thats why I did it to confirm my ancestry. I'm R1a, but if I tested R1b I may have had Celtic ancestry.And there are R1b's in Poland.

For guys the testing is specific to the Y-chromosome (the guy chromosome) and that doesn't change much for many generations. But it only follows a specific lineage starting with you, your father, your father's father and so on. Only one line. (typically that follows the surname)

Anyway I'd be happy to go into more detail (if interested).

In the mean time I recommend the local bakery for some really good kołacki. : )

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