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Foreigner4
  Jan 5, 08, 09:52  #31

omniba wrote:
Now, would you concede that one could be ashamed of ones parents or background etc? (Bypassing psychological aspects, etc :) - I just refer to the word "ashamed".)

no.

 
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Patrycja19
  Jan 5, 08, 09:55  #32

Foreigner4 wrote:
taking pride in something one hasn't done or contributed to is a form of delusional thinking imho


if I say, my dad served in WWII, I am proud of his accimplishments

Where or how and WHat part of this sentence is so dilusional that I have no right to
make this statement?? SHow me where I take his pride away????
he did it, I state he did it.. I am proud of my father, therefore I am proud of the
man he is/was and what he did so that I am alive....

you are dilusional..... imho

 
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Foreigner4
Edited by: Foreigner4  Jan 5, 08, 10:22  #33

Patrycja19 wrote:
WHat part of this sentence is so dilusional that I have no right to
make this statement?? SHow me where I take his pride away????

^show me where i wrote that, that doesn't even make any sense, if i wrote that then i gotta lay off the medication. *shrugs shoulders, pops 3x more pills than recommended*

anyway i've noticed it's more the way and when people typically state these things (i believe the word "brag" was used in one of your other posts) that is veiled psuedo strutting (e.g. look at me, my greatgrandfather was a war hero), or even why you'd feel the need to "announce" such a thing- it just defies humility.

anyway i *don't think you'll get it* (edited) and i can see from this post as compared to your others that your getting worked up about the whole thing.

 
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Patrycja19
  Jan 5, 08, 10:30  #34

Foreigner4 wrote:
or even why you'd feel the need to "announce" such a thing- it just defies humility.


in a conversation , if someone says my father served WWII or WWI and told of his
heroics, he is carrying on the memories of his familys accomplishments, one should
be remembered , especially after they have passed along, and its ok to say he is
proud and or admire in your statement, none of its wrong in my opinion, your just
being anal and trying to dip into the human psych of it all but your argument holds
no merit, because you know as well as I do that the only person who is having
the problems with it is you ( on a personal level).... so go ahead and anal-ize
what you want.. have fun..

I wish you would come back down like you did yesterday, I really thought that was
mighty gallant..

 
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omniba [Guest]
  Jan 5, 08, 11:01  #35

Foreigner4 wrote:
no.

Well surprise, surprise - some people are! And seeing the antonym of "ashamed" is "proud" it follows that some people can be proud of their parents, etc.
Pride doesn't necessarily, and exclusively, lead to nationalism, though of course it might. Pride can lead to behaving better so as not to let the side down, and surely that cannot be a bad thing.

 
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Foreigner4
  Jan 5, 08, 11:07  #36

funny cause i'm not surprised in the least by that reply.

just because some people allow themselves to feel trapped by feelings of remorse for things that were beyond their control doesn't make it healthy thinking and i'd certainly never advocate it. Take pride of the things you've done man there's nothing wrong with that. but remember that pride comes before the fall.

 
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omniba [Guest]
  Jan 5, 08, 11:12  #37

You mean before Autumn? :)

 
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Patrycja19
  Jan 5, 08, 11:17  #38

Foreigner4 wrote:
just because some people allow themselves to feel trapped by feelings of remorse for things that were beyond their control


take your own advice, your remorseful for something beyond your control which
is pride/being proud.. your actually telling others how you feel in another thread
about this same peticular subject..

polishforums.com/sick_people_being_proud_they_x-16_16322_0.html

your sick with remorse? why let it bother you so much, that leads to health issues
and of course we dont want that now do we ..

 
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Foreigner4
  Jan 5, 08, 11:25  #39

omniba wrote:

You mean before Autumn? :)

:)

 
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