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Michal
  Feb 3, 08, 13:25  #31

Lethiafae87 wrote:
OL, I'm not at all worried. I was just curious about differences. I know that they are more open sexually.. so I was gue

I think the main differences are that the Polish tend to drink more than other races. Time will tell if there is enough for two people from different cultures to stay together.

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michal85
  Feb 3, 08, 17:10  #32

jestesjedyny wrote:
I want a big tummy ;(


Eat more calories.

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southern
  Feb 3, 08, 17:52  #33

I prefer a small tummy.

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jestesjedyny
  Feb 4, 08, 08:31  #34

michal85 wrote:
Eat more calories.

lol... no! I want a baby in my tummy :D

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michal85
  Feb 4, 08, 17:10  #35

jestesjedyny wrote:
lol... no! I want a baby in my tummy :D


Eww gross, making babies is for hippies. You think about that stuff?

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mbaker230
  Feb 5, 08, 06:14  #36

i have been dating a polish guy for almost 5 years now. there aren't many cultural differences, since we were both born in the US. We're both Catholic, so that saves some headaches. his family accepted me with open arms and my family did the same with him. the only thing i had to get used to was him speaking polish in front of me, cuz i didnt know what they were saying. it used to freak me out, but now i'm used to it. i'm even learning quite a bit. his mother speaks polish to me, and some how, I understand it. in my opinion, one of the best things you can do is make sure that if you have kids, they learn both english and polish. don't let them lose their heritage.

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Michal
  Feb 5, 08, 08:43  #37

mbaker230 wrote:
est things you can do is make sure that if you have kids, they learn both english and polish. don't let them lose their heritage.


This is not always a good idea. It has been proven that children living in a dual language environment are then later backward at school and are certainly more prone to suffer from learning difficulties. If his mother speaks to you in Polish I would tell her not to be so rude in the first place!

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miranda
  Feb 5, 08, 09:00  #38

Michal wrote:
It has been proven that children living in a dual language environment are then later backward at school and are certainly more prone to suffer from learning difficulties.

I would think it would be the opposite. I have never heard that knowing more than one language could hurt anybody. I guess I have old info.

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Michal
  Feb 5, 08, 09:54  #39

it sounds good and idyllic to know two languages and I suppose it is but there has been research (by whom, I have no idea) but in young children who speak a different language at home, they are slower at reading and writing skills in class. Later in life, I know it is nice to be able to go abroad and have that certain advantage over other people.

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JustysiaS
  Feb 5, 08, 13:41  #40

Michal wrote:
there has been research (by whom, I have no idea)


which means there was most likely no research as such and you made it all up. do you use all this crap you post as wanking aid or something? im just curious.

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Wroclaw
  Feb 5, 08, 13:47  #41

Michal wrote:
in young children who speak a different language at home, they are slower at reading and writing skills in class.


This is not so.

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Michal
  Feb 5, 08, 15:24  #42

Wroclaw wrote:
This is not so.

Yes it is true. For years I would try and write in English and would use Russian letters. It is a well known fact that children from foreign families have a big disadvantage in school. End of story. I know what I am talking about and if you do not agree with me, then so be it. Do I care? Do I need silly translations from people on this Forum? I can write in Russian. Can you?

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JustysiaS
Edited by: JustysiaS  Feb 6, 08, 12:14  #43

Michal wrote:
To znaczy, że jestem zdolniejszy niż Ty.


ok so you speak one more language than i do. does it make me think youre more intelligent or diligent than me? NO. you might be clever, but your ignorance and dumb lies outshine it all. see you're not even a native British person, you're half Russian and you act like God knows who, slagging off the Polish probably because jokes about stupid Russians are very popular in Poland. Well guess what, Poland is in the EU and its getting better every year. Funnily enough there are lots of places in Russia that sound just like Poland in your stories (people doing the toilet in the outbildings, not many cities, bad education etc.). you sure you're not getting anything confused here? Tell you what, Russia is a sh*thole controlled by one crazy man who will do anything for power, i suppose life sucks there MUCH more than it does in Poland. youre just jealous you're not half Polish.

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Polson
  Feb 6, 08, 13:24  #44

Michal wrote:
It has been proven that children living in a dual language environment are then later backward at school and are certainly more prone to suffer from learning difficulties.


My dad is French, so he speaks French, my mum is Polish, used to speak to us in Polish. I'm the elder brother of a brother and a sister. Are we backward at school or having any difficulties ?...Absolutely not, actually it's the contrary. We all are the best in our English classes, and good (if not among the bests) in other classes.
A friend of mine speaks both French and English at home, he's not bad at school at all.

;)

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Wyspianska
Edited by: Wyspianska  Feb 6, 08, 13:26  #45

JustysiaS wrote:
ok so you speak one more language than i do.

Now he's trying to point out all my mistakes in English, probably thinking I even care about his opinion. I'm far better in English than he would ever be if he was in my age and had no teacher so you know what? I know I'm making good. Let him post whatever he wants. Wonder if anyone reads this sh*it.

JustysiaS wrote:
i suppose life sucks there MUCH more than it does in Poland. youre just jealous you're not half Polish.

of course it does. I'm not going to insult all nation like he used to but the fact is that Russians like to be controlled. When Jelcyn started to make a real democracy, suddenly Russians were so unhappy. Jak wprowadzali konstytucje, to ludzie na ulicach krzyczeli "niech zyje car Konstantyn i jego zona Konstytucja", myslac ze to jego malzonka... Zacofanie i niechęć do zmian, to czym Rosja zasłużyła na sobie na swoje dzisiejsze położenie. Położenie, w którym nowobogaccy chodzą obwieszeni złotem a obok nich, w głębokim kontraście biedni mieszkańcy Moskwy nigdy nie pozwolą sobie na wejście do sklepu z piękna wystawą, a żeby wykarmić dzieci, muszą żebrać.

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osiol
  Feb 6, 08, 13:51  #46

Wroclaw wrote:
This is not so.

Michal wrote:
it is true. For years I would try and write in English and would use Russian letters. It is a well known fact that children from foreign families have a big disadvantage in school

You're basing this opinion solely on your own experience.
You're not exactly typical are you.

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Michal
  Feb 6, 08, 14:00  #47

Wyspianska wrote:
ll my mistakes in English, probably thinking I even care about his opinion. I'm far better in English than he would ever be if he was in my age and had no teacher so you know what? I know I'm making good. Let him p

I thought you wanted the help. What is the point of you making mistakes? On your own, how are you ever going to improve? Women!!

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JustysiaS
Edited by: JustysiaS  Feb 6, 08, 14:01  #48

Wyspianska wrote:
Now he's trying to point out all my mistakes in English, probably thinking I even care about his opinion.


oh yeah he is even capble of telling you your Polish is no good. try to tell him his translations are crap, and he'll say he doesnt care if his Polish is rubbish and why would it have to be good as its a dying language anyway (!) lol. dont use it then! such a friggin moron.

and speaking about Russia, we have many friends there and believe me its not good out there at all. the only way some people could make a living was smuggling whatever they could to Poland and selling it for dollars or zlotys, and yes many of them would come from Russia, not just Kaliningrad cos thats next door. it will die off now as the border will be shut since Poland is in Shengen, visas will be too pricey for such a risky business. Polish are much better off. so michal if you wanna see people begging, starving, on a very low education level and zero urbanisation in a 100 mile radius, go back to your motherland.

Michal wrote:
On your own, how are you ever going to improve? Women!!


oh my sweet Jesus, and how will she ever cope without your precious help?! im sure there are plenty of people on this forum who will help her much more than you will, without confusing her with a bunch of out dated vocabulary. and guess what, i bet they will never mention it, either.

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osiol
  Feb 6, 08, 14:04  #49

Michal wrote:
What is the point of you making mistakes?

Most mistakes are not done on purpose. There is no point to making mistakes.
Just thought I'd help you.

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mbaker230
  Feb 8, 08, 19:15  #50

Wow, I'm almost sorry I said anything! We live in Chicago and if you told any of the Polish people here not to teach their kids Polish they'd call you pojebany.

My boyfriend speaks both English and Polish fluently. His parents, who were born in Poland, read to him in English and talked to him in Polish. His English and Polish are perfectly fine. He is also a very good writer and often corrects MY English.

In my opinion, I think it's good that your children do not lose their heritage like I did. I am Black, Chinese, Irish and Native American. I'm all mixed up ;) Yet, I only speak English. I would be ashamed of myself if I kept my children from learning Polish. If you practice both languages with your child equally, I believe that both languages will develop fully. I do not have scientific evidence, but this is what I believe. It does not matter if knowing more than one language can help you get ahead in work. What matters is knowing and respecting where you come from.

Also, I do not mind that his mother speaks Polish to me. I understand it and encourage it. She feels more comfortable speaking Polish, so who am I to judge? I'll speak it with her. I hate when people here in America say "Speak English." I'd like them to go to Poland and have someone tell them "SPEAK POLISH"!

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shewolf
  Feb 8, 08, 21:03  #51

Michal wrote:
it sounds good and idyllic to know two languages and I suppose it is but there has been research (by whom, I have no idea) but in young children who speak a different language at home, they are slower at reading and writing skills in class. Later in life, I know it is nice to be able to go abroad and have that certain advantage over other people.


I agree that some kids struggle when they speak two languages. I spoke 2 languages as a child, one of them being English, but I was the smartest student in my English class. However, it was more of a struggle for me to get those high grades because I always confused the 2 languages.

As an adult you get paid more money in the workplace if you can speak more than one language. So, it's smart to teach your kids a second language. You'll only be helping their futures.

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z_darius
  Feb 9, 08, 06:16  #52

Michal wrote:
It is a well known fact that children from foreign families have a big disadvantage in school. End of story.

It is not a well know at all. All the research done in this regards is pretty much as valuable as arguning whose god is better and more powerful. In a word: useless.

My daughter is perfectly bilingual. Along with other perfectly bilingual kids from her class (mostly Spanish/English) she received over a dozen of full scholarship proposals from the best universities. These were not sports scholarship offers either. On the other hand, most native Canadian kids ended up in lower grade schools at best. More than a few landed on McDonald's kind of jobs, a few are leaching the welfare system.

What you write is an urban legend that is based on some flawed research which considers only linguistic backgrounds without giving much attention to social aspects. Immigrant children are often the children of, for a lack of a better expression, blue collar class. Frequently, they lack academic aspirations because they do not have examples to follow. But even that is not a rule, as many families do see the benefits they, and their kids may have not had in their original countries.

Language is not just a bunch of words and rules of grammar. Another language helps people achieve this additional angle of view on pretty much all aspects of life. The multitude of meanings of words, and the multitide of ways to understand words, concepts and reality, which speaking more than one language affords, allows them to have more flexible and original minds. That, however, is only a potential, not a guarantee.

After all there are also examples of people who learn and achieve a degree of proficiency in languages other than their native ones, and yet they are utter fools who cannot see beyond the ends of their noses, or outside their 5 bedroom houses. These people are commonly known as home grown philosophers.

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southern
Edited by: southern  Feb 9, 08, 06:38  #53

Poles are in advantage in any educational system due to higher IQ than average.Other folks are in distinct disadvantage(see Turks in Germany,even third generation now largely illiterate).

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miranda
  Feb 9, 08, 08:08  #54

southern wrote:
(see Turks in Germany,even third generation now largely illiterate).

but that didn't happen because they luck intelligence.

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southern
  Feb 9, 08, 08:25  #55

miranda wrote:

but that didn't happen because they luck intelligence.


What do you mean?

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mbaker230
  Feb 16, 08, 22:46  #56

Michal wrote:
I think the main differences are that the Polish tend to drink more than other races. Time will tell if there is enough for two people from different cultures to stay together.


Haha, I didn't know Polish was a race. But just because your Polish doesn't mean you drink a lot. People in every culture drink

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