Difference between Polish Imperf. and Perf. forms

Since the begining i've supposed that.
But i weren't aware of the real reason - associations to aggression.
Prefix przy with core pierdolić create still coarse verb for the sake of the core
but little aggressive.
As a result original warning is not appaling anyway.
To be the honest it is hard to imagine how any other core or prefix could be used to express less aggression. And that the warning still stay effective.

IMO reader (of the translation) should been warned that in original main verb is coarse for the sake of its relations to sex activity what is taboo there,
not for the sake of aggression charge.

In other way translation insert false background
which in original is quite different.

Or should be added the note that translation is still coarse for the sake of swear systems incompatibility.
Or should be added the note that in original translated message/warning is far from to be appalling or shocking.

Best regards

Hey, are you insulting our F-word?!?! Go przypierdolić yourself!!!
(joke)

We dont have these fancy prefixes that you guys do, we just add other words. I know it sounds like a crazy concept but it works for us!

I...I just wanted an answer about grammar....not a language war!

See!!! See what you did to this poor girl!!



NOW can we get that group hug?

You should said: "Idź przypierdolić sobie" or even shorter and better:
"Idź, przypierdol sobie" or
"Idź i przypierdol sobie".
Both forms are 100% correct.

But never say: "Idź i przypierdolić sobie" - such expression is 100% inncorrect. I'm not a racist but to be honest i have to say we associate such incorrect expressions with bambo language.
Such expression act as a 100% prove you are not polish native speaker.

The same valid for forms without prefix przy- or forms with any other prefix.

Polish grammar is really easy innit ? ;-)



So f*** forms acting as a Mr Hyde prefixes, i see.



I'm ready but keep in mind i'm still weak.

You can't really "go przypierdolić yourself" :), you'd rather "go pierdolić yourself" (no prefixes needed here :D). And I'd personally choose the imperative mood here ;)


It's not me who started it :/ But don't worry, Kemaleon keeps on trying to call a truce... Coming soon, hopefully.


I could do it just for the common good :P


I have to disagree once again (I don't want to wage war, though). What Kemaleon had in mind was "pierdol się" (like in "go fuck yourself"). Don't you think saying "Idź i przypierdol sobie" sounds a bit unnatural?

"Hello Mr head, let me introduce you to Mr wall"

"Ah hello Mr wall, shall we get on with it?"

"Yes, lets"

*BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG - BANG*

I had no intention of causing a stir :P

No i don't.
For example: "Idź i przypierdol sobie głową w mur"
It is a kind of sarcastic request.
"Idź i przypierdol sobie" it is a shortest form which giving a freedom of choice how to do that.
It is anyway so much coarse as: "Pierdol się!"

I have to admit it is realy rare but it is a plus.
Such rare form of request showing you are clever individual than majority whos saying the most spreaded forms.

Rare forms prefix-core combinations focusing listener attention.
Coarse counterpart of "wonderfull" in polish is "zajebisty".
Instead of talking loudly "odlotowo zajebisty" we could talk "odjebisty" what is a little unnatural but very well understandable in polish and as a result focusing attention. Prefix "od-" acting the same as prefix "za-" (at this case) and as a plus focusing attention because it is a rare combination. Younger people have more tendency to gaming (such prefix games) than older.
Not all prefixes are usefull equal for such games but such "word games" are possible in polish i'm sure.

It isn't anyway so much coarse as: "Pierdol się!

I don't know, I think threatening sodomy with a shovel is pretty coarse.

Ha-ha, interesting arguments. It all comes down to the knowledge of English. Thanks for the intro to the use of pi*rdolić, btw - I didn't have problems understanding it as my language has the very same perpectives in that field! :D

AnotherGuest:
as I say, it all comes down to your knowledge of English. In English, I know some pretty rude things by now, but I have to rely on my own language as it is much more expressive. For example, my problem is that English swearings are just too short. In English, you end up with repeating f***ing a thousand times. It's only films you hear beautiful phrases of swearings like "Glorious piece of heavenly sh*t!" or "Holy p*ss on a willow-tree!". In real life, they never say things like that. (I think if it was Star Trek, the universal translator would easily be screwed up translating my swearings to English like "Should've you f*cked your wh*re mother in the mouth, you... etc.")

Regarding the associations: yeah, you just have to practice English to get used to their logic. I can't really elaborate that... In a way, I would agree that they can't "imply" meanings so easily as we'd think, though they have some pretty euphemisms -- I like "stuff it" or "sod" for "f*ck it". :) These ones are still not as good as, for instance, "let me push it in your mother" in my language - which does not sound rude by itself, but the associated meaning is "f*cking someone's mother" (e.g. she is a k*rwa!) and you would get killed if you said it to someone you argue with...

To sum it up, if you don't experience the particular language in real life, it is quite hard to understand/learn swear-words or/and associated meanings... Swearing is verbal, and will always be verbal ("oral"). We can write about it, but that's just not the same. :)

Watch out for the sexual connotations this word might carry ;)
I bet AnotherGuest will object ;)