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Dokonany/Niedokonany - Perfective/Imperfective


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slyder
  Feb 19, 08, 10:04  #1

This is something that I am struggling with at the moment (I find myself using things like jestem biorę until someone introduces me to wzi±ć), and I am trying to organize myself around the idea. Does anyone know any resources to locate Perfective/Imperfective pairs?

And does anyone know if there are any auxiliary verbs in Polish (will, shall), I miss them, haha?

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Marek
  Feb 19, 08, 15:14  #2

'Musieć' = to have to (must)
'Powinnic' = ought to (should)
móc = to be able to (can)

.....are common modal verbs in Polish. "Auxilliaries" as in English "DO you speak Polish?" etc. don't exist in most languages other than English, in addition, Poles find English-language tag questions rather strange sounding. In English: "Do you like books?" -Yes, I DO. vs. Polish "Czy lubisz ksi±żki?" = Tak, lubię. (lit "...Yes, I like.)

Will have to get back to you later about the other verb questions.

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slyder
  Feb 19, 08, 18:42  #3

That was really helpful thanks :) I never thought of 'do' that way, I find it funny how much I've learned about English grammer studying Polish!

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marhefka
  Feb 19, 08, 18:50  #4


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RJ_cdn
  Feb 19, 08, 18:53  #5

Marek wrote:
'Powinnic'

It should be
powinien (he/on)/powinna (she/ona)/powinno (it/to/ono) = should

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Davey
  Feb 19, 08, 18:58  #6

Powinienem, Powinnam

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Krzysztof
Edited by: Krzysztof  Feb 19, 08, 19:27  #7

Marek wrote:
'Powinnic'

RJ_cdn wrote:
It should be powinien (he/on)/powinna (she/ona)

this verb simply has no infinitive form in Polish

btw, I've just noticed that there's a quite long Wikipedia article on this subject, I can't verify if all they say is true, but it's a good start (there are also some interesting links below that article)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_aspect

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Marek
  Feb 20, 08, 07:33  #8

Whoops, guys! Clean forgot "powinnem" has no infinitive form (bezokolicznik!!).

Muchos apologies - - -:):)

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Wyspianska
  Feb 20, 08, 07:49  #9

Marek wrote:
"powinnem"

this word doesn't even exist

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Michal
  Feb 20, 08, 09:11  #10

slyder wrote:
hings like jestem biorę u

This is correct grammar in English but in most European languages it is translated as I take therefore ja biorę-I am taking or ik neem as it would be in Dutch. The concept of I am doing something in the present tense is not a slavonic trend at all.
Buy a book of polish verbs. They are all listed with the differences between perfective and imperfective tenses.

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Marek
  Feb 20, 08, 14:14  #11

Witaj, Wy¶piańsko!

Wiem. Poprawny jest 'powinniam', nie prawda?

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RJ_cdn
  Feb 20, 08, 15:18  #12

Marek wrote:
Poprawny jest 'powinniam', nie prawda?

Powinienem (male)
Powinnam (female)

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Marek
  Feb 21, 08, 07:44  #13

Dzięki!

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Wyspianska
  Feb 21, 08, 08:35  #14

Marek wrote:
Witaj, Wy¶piańsko!



AVE lol

RJ_cdn wrote:
Powinienem (male)
Powinnam (female)

true : )

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