Donkey's Diary

It is the official office cat saying it.


That does look somewhat familiar.


Going home. Normally when you oversleep, you're late going to work rather than going home from work.


What have you people done to the word 'rover' here? I'm just curious.

Od lewendy [meaning under the influence of lavender]
or
W lawendzie [meaning in the lavender bed] zawsze chce mi się spać
(means that you feel sleepy)
W lawendzie zawsze zasypiam (means that you always fall asleep in the lavender bed)

I'll go for od lawendy - I find lavender to be very influential.

how about grządka (przy grządce)...?
grzęda reminds me kury (chickens)...

Yes, I agree with the chicken part, but it wasn't my own translation (in that deleted thread) and I think it's also used for plants, because grządka as a diminutive doesn't suit the big beds they have in the horticulture.

I would say grządka z lawendą. Grzęda is reserved for a hen. :)


Grządka is (http://slowniki.onet.pl)

So grzęda may be the best word to use in real life, but in this parallel universe, thoughts of chickens may be a step too far. People will expect them to start talking or driving hovercrafts or something.

Edit: I typed grzęda being the best before I read the last post just above.

I have updated my last post on page 1 to suit some of the recent Krzysztof-influenced changes.

Well, now that I thought about it again, it would probably be better to say "spoźniasz się" (instead of "jesteś spóźniony")


No, it's not.
grzęda
1. «pas ziemi uprawnej w ogrodzie lub na polu ograniczony rowkami»
2. «drążek, na którym odpoczywa ptactwo domowe»
3. «forma rzeźby skorupy ziemskiej podobna do wału»
4. «w alpinizmie: wąska wypukłość na stromym zboczu biegnąca z góry na dół»

grzęda - SJP PWN

EDIT:

Od lewendy zawsze chce mi się spać. (that would be the correct sentence)

EDIT # 2
Goodnight, today I'm off earlier than usually.

If you insist. But I did get my original sentence off a girl who was really nice and helpful and Polish.
That was why it was grammatically correct - it was the only bit where I cheated.

by the dictionary... but in everyday life i'd say grządka kwiatów and grzęda kur...


Lawenda sprawia, że chce mi się spać.

Lawenda is lavender I think, hmm...nice :)

Thankyou for all your help.

But what about the bit that everyone told me was not just wrong, not just wronger, but thebit that everyone told me was the wrongest?

If someone can sort this following sentence out, I'm share some hay with you (where's the 'Kinkiness Thread'?)

Apparently, the cat that lives in the office can talk.

I c that ur grammar is at least on a par with mine old chap. Maybe ur vocab isn't but ur grammar is quite strong. Hat's off 2 ya. Let the experts help ya, not the duffers like me

Najwyraźniej kot, który mieszka w biurze, potrafi mówić.

where is my hay share?

I walk away for a moment and this is turning into George Orwell Animal Farm, and I thought it supposed to be horticultural thread. What’s next chickens that can talk or maybe "kreciki" moles?
I would have never guessed from the original post.

That's it, correct, although I would definitely change the word order and maybe change the second verb (robić się instead of być, "robić się" is colloquial for "stawać się" - to become] [Lawenda zawsze sprawia, że robię się śpiący], but after you introduced my suggestion (od lawendy), you wrote something like this:

which was completely wrong, because with this construction ("od lawendy") there's no need for the verb "sprawiać". The translation won't be exact, but it looked something like this:
1/ you wrote "Lavender always makes me sleepy"
2/ I suggested (od lawendy ~ because of lavender) so you changed it to "Because of lavender (it) always makes me sleepy"
3/ The correct literal version should be "Because of lavender I always feel/become sleepy", without the need for the verb "(it) makes (me)".

No it's not. Not yet anyway. I seem to understand more when I'm slightly drunk though. You have regular beers in the evening though, eh?


Not really. When someone asks me 'What do you do?' work is not my first answer. I love my work, I love working with plants, but I aslo seem to surround myself with my own ocassionally surrealistic creations. I'm also mad enough to want to learn Polish for no particular personal benefit.


It even costs me hay sometimes. It's in the post. The pigeon flies tonight.


Okay. I'll just read, read and reread this a few times and work my head around just how a Polish sentence really ought ot work. As in any language, you give the information that is required, maybe a little more, maybe just a little less, but there are such things as too much, not enough. My poor brain!

Hmm, usually 2 beers 3 times a week. The beer I drink, Zubr, is only 2.20zł and it's 6%. It has a pure/crisp taste.

Can anyone translate this evening's diary entry for me? It goes something like this:

I played my guitar while my flatmate hollered "Piwo to paliwo!"
So I switched from strumming some Van Morrison chords to playing The Sex Pistols' Pretty Vacunt.

Edit 1
I ought to point out that I realise piwo to paliwo means beer is fuel, and it should really be piwo to moje paliwo. Oh no! Not swoje?

Okay, so nobody fancies translating such a tricky text right now. Meanwhile...

About a year ago when I started trying to learn Polish, my most common sentence Polish people heard from me was:
"Jadłeś gołembie?"

So that covers about a dozen diary entries from my pre-PF days.

Did I ever mention the cleaving od nuns in Warsaw 1999?

Grałem na gitarze gdy mój współlokator zawołał "Piwo to Paliwo!”
Melodia którą grałem była Van Morrisona, więc zmieniłem na melodię Sex Pistals - Pretty Vacunt.


Shouldn’t it be "Łabędzie” I thought you British think we eat Swans?

Jadłeś gołębie ?

Ja jadłem. Prezent od sąsiadów - hodowców. Mama ugotowała na nich rosół (smakują jak kurczaki).

Well Osioł, this is a good entry for ur diary. In Polish, cześć can mean both 'hi' and 'bye'. When my ss leave the classroom, some of them say 'hi'. It's quite amusing as u have been teaching them for the last while.

It makes me think of the Beatles song, 'Hello, Goodbye'. U say 'goodbye', and I say 'hello', 'hello hello, I don't know why u say goodbye when I say hello'.

Hehehe, how apt!!

Probably, but I'm too nice to throw around such accusations. Gołąb was one of the first Polish words I eveer learnt, along with jeden, dwa, trzy, krzaki, drzewa and cześć...

You say cześć, I say cześć.
Cześć, cześć. I don't know why you say cześć, I say cześć.

Osioł, I made an attempt to find the difference between swój and mój/twój/.... The results are as follows:

Possessive pronouns mój/twój/jego/jej/nasz/wasz/ich are used when the subject of the sentence is not the possessor.

So you can say:
Ten zeszyt jest mój/twój/jego/jej/nasz/wasz/ich.
[This notebook is mine/yours/....]
To jest mój/twój/... zeszyt
[This is my/your/... notebook]

Here, you can't use swój because it still doesn't explain whose notebook it is. Swój can refer to any person (On ma swój zeszyt a ja mam swój - He has his (own) notebook and I have mine). Mój/twój/jego/... is specific.

On the other hand, you use the possessive-reflexive pronoun swój, when the subject of the sentence is also the possessor:




here you can also use jego, but swój sounds much better.

Swój has also idiomatic meaning (something like 'familiar') and functions as an adjective:

Osioł to swój człowiek.

That would be all I think.

Uff, ale mnie to zmęczyło intelektualnie... :)

One doesn't want one's thread to be trashed, even if one does it oneself.
Can it be a bit like that?

Anyway, it's not much of a diary if I never say what I've been doing.

W tym tygodniu jestem na wakacjach, ale ciągle w domu. Wczoraj [I put - (przy?)wiązałem?] nowych strun na mojej (swojej?) gitarze. Teraz nie chcę grać banjo (bandżo?).

Dzisiaj, pojechałem pociągiem w Londyn(u?)... I took loads of photographs, I got home and promptly deleted all of them by mistake.

This time I couldn't be bothered to work out how to say all that lot in Polish. Partly I just wanted to prompt a few responses to my last diary entry (see above), but also because in this corner of the forum, I'm supposed to be practicing the Polish I know rather than the Polish I don't.

LOL

The pictures included:

A newsagent frontage that advertised the 'adult comic' Viz.
A man slicing a cucumber on a man's chest with a big knife.
The same man juggling knives whilst balanced on a box balanced on a plastic tube.
Trafalgar square from a variety of different angles.
An old man with a long white beard sitting next to his dustcart, operating a mobile phone.
The desolate wasteland that is Finsbury Park station.
A tourist who jumped in the way of the camera when I was taking a picture of some olives outside an Italian restaurant.

I'm now having trouble with the file recovery software I just bought at great expense.

Oh, and thanks for the corrections.

Nie mogłem spać, więc (made some coffee... ) Zrobiłem ognisko. Było dobre, ale nie miałem (marshmallows). Potem gadałem z ładną dziewczyną/polką, potem zjadłem śniadanie... Dzień dobry!

How many new grammatical constructs have I just invented there?
How little sense did it make?
Do you agree my diary entries aren't as good as they were?
Who dares to correct my mistakes?