Is the E.U. good for Poland??

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and where is your "liberal" PiS ?

have you watched debate especialy part about economy

I don't think Tusk will be any better than Kaczynski. Currently I don't see any political force in Poland which would have strength or qualified people to make any REAL change. I hope I am wrong though.

Going back to the original post. I think EU has become a political organization rather than economic partnership (which it was long time ago). Like all political organizations it is rather concern about its own political agenda than free market or economic progress.

By the way, that whole discussion weather Ireland was poor or not is pointless. The point is that Ireland has become a prosperous country largely on its own.

Both PiS and PO are economically socialistic but the first one are patriotic socialists and the 2nd are international ("European") socialists, so I prefer the first one.

LOL flat income tax, flat cooperate tax and you call PO socialists :))) Have you watched debate when Tusk was talking about liberal economy and that it is our way (Irealnd) , and Kaczysnki started to talk about social benefits ...

I see you have problem to vote on PiS after debate so you try to prove that PO is socialist party, what is complete false. Your grate leader call them ( PO) liberals so ...

I think we can discuss in subject about PO and PiS not here

The point that I was trying to make was in reference to Ireland being poor before European entry. Some of you had mentioned that Ireland's position before it entered the EU could in some respect be compared to Poland's. The two countries although similar differ vastly in relation to the extent of Ireland's hidden wealth. Industries such as horse and greyhound racing and sport related tourism have always provided income streams in the Irish economy than were to some extent hidden.

:)))) you should be more optimistic ...

I am very optimistic it was just a reflection concerning Ireland's wealth. Poland regardless of the election result has a great future. I will even be happy if PO win the election as I'll more than likely pay less overall taxes.

I like the idea of EU as free market zone, I don't like the idea of EU as superstate rulled by the Germans (brrr). What more to say? EU stopped to be trade union, and started changing into big superstate. It's dangerous for Poland.

Yep. 15% PIT and 20% VAT, which in practice mean that vast majority of Poles would pay higher taxes. PO's "liberalism" is BS. In Poland almost 50% of GDP goes through the public sector, which is about the same level like in Germany or France and to make a serious improvement It should be reduced at least by 8-10%. PO won't do that. The main difference between PiS and PO is that the 2nd is "nicer" - will lick ass of commies, Gerries, homos and other freaks, I don't know about you but for me that a big minus.

Besides the problem is not that Kaczyński or even Olejniczak don't know that lower taxes would be better for economy, the problem is that unfortunately most of Poles are economically rather socialistic, so I prefer 4 more years of "Solidarna Polska" and then probably many Poles will start thinking that maybe we should try something else than very similar crap under the name of liberalism, which will only disattract more people from idea of economical liberalism.

He was talking some crap about prices of potatoes and that he will make a miracel in Poland...

If teh governemnt of Kaczysnkis was a goo one there woul be no reason for early election, so I hope they are out. It doesn't mean that another government would be better but there is always a chance.

Poland needs a progressive, not a conservative, backward government.

hear hear

get back to work, will ya.......;)

drinking beer actually... being multi-talented i can do both at the same time

boy, you are very busy indeed:)

So maybe be more progressive yourself and find a girlfriend.

what a strange thing to say

really?, ha, ha........stop drinking, start thinking.......

I thought you were anti-gay ?

I think that G is referring to progressive as pro-gay and since I am pro-gay and for equality , he is insinuating that I am gay too.

Explain yourself G.

What I meant by progressive was closely linked with internal politics in regards to employment for young people in Poland an other issues which I am not going to repeat againI think that Tusk is more level headed an will be a better option for Poland.

The EU should and does act as a beacon for the rest of the World. If we are to survive on this planet now and in the future all coutries should be looking very closely at similar organisations.

Is the EU good for Poland? your damn right it is, your part of the future-be happy.

history will be the judge but anyway first he has to win. Tusk performed better in the debate, Kaczor spewed vague statements and silly jingoism, but o h well, many people eat that stuff up as we all know...

No...

I see that some people here try to convice Poles that EU is good thing, (I will repeat) according to ht pools 80% of Poles are happy that Poland is in EU and think it is good for Poland

True.



Of course it is ! ;)

do the pole's want to go back to communism? take a look at this and start thinking.

google common purpose goverment infiltrators.

About 90% of Poles know nothing about the EU. They say so because:
- Brussels bureaucracy is more efficient than Polish one
- The EU make good propaganda

Poland should be in Schengen zone and for this you doesn't need to be member of the EU. We sell out parts of sovereignty with every another signed treaty and get some TEMPORARY subsidies, ten years and this will be over. Why would corrupt, populist and ignorant Polish politicians try to solve this country if they can pass this problem to Brussels.

bla bla bla If we lisnted people from LPR/UPR where we would be ... of course not in EU

hopefully they have 1% of support