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English, Irish, Scots: They’re All One, Genes Suggest


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peterweg
Edited by: Admin  Mar 5, 07, 16:21  #1

Britain and Ireland are so thoroughly divided in their histories that there is no single word to refer to the inhabitants of both islands. Historians teach that they are mostly descended from different peoples: the Irish from the Celts, and the English from the Anglo-Saxons who invaded from northern Europe and drove the Celts to the country’s western and northern fringes.


iht.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/web.0305BRITS.full.php


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hello
  Mar 5, 07, 16:25  #2

What does it have to do with Poland?

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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:25  #3

Yes BUT you and your neighbour could be TWINS but if you disagree about the colour of the garden fence - that is cause enough to be enemies!

The Irish, Scottish and English may have similar genes (no surprise to me btw) but it is the SOCIO-PSYCOLOGICAL background MAKES them VERY different to each other.

Sure Polish, German, Bulgarians and Croats are genetically 'similar' by the same token, but you try telling them that!

good post!



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BubbaIncognito [Guest]
  Mar 5, 07, 16:27  #4

Quoting: hello
What does it have to do with Poland?


very little i imagine... which would explian why it was posted in the off-topic lounge... perhaps...

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szarlotka
  Mar 5, 07, 16:29  #5

Quoting: hello
What does it have to do with Poland?


Don't know really but it is in the off topic lounge section

Thinking about it, it means you can work anywhere in the UK Or Eire and know that you are dealing with a genetically identical bunch of miscreants


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hello
  Mar 5, 07, 16:30  #6

Quoting: BubbaIncognito
very little i imagine... which would explian why it was posted in the off-topic lounge... perhaps...

Whenever I see "English" or "British" in the topic I feel it's going to be deleted or closed soon - these two words are like catalysts to forum fights.

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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:30  #7

Quoting: szarlotka
you are dealing with a genetically identical bunch of miscreants



ouch - that hurt szarlotka



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Huegel
  Mar 5, 07, 16:30  #8

Quoting: BubbaIncognito
which would explian why it was posted in the off-topic lounge


Far too logical Bubba. There has to be something else there. <remembering to observe your Shatnerian pauses> Get bletchley on the blower, we'll have them take a schnuffty.

God only knows what the Americans will make of that.

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peterweg
Edited by: peterweg  Mar 5, 07, 16:30  #9

Interesting that English is not a germanic language and was spoke before the Romans got here


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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:30  #10

eng & ire dont fight anymore hello???



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szarlotka
  Mar 5, 07, 16:31  #11

Quoting: Huegel
<remembering to observe your Shatnerian pauses> Get bletchley on the blower, we'll have them take a schnuffty.


I'm afraid I don't understand your banter old man


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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:31  #12

Quoting: peterweg
Interesting that English is not a germanic language.



can you explain then why English is descended from german then peter?



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hello
  Mar 5, 07, 16:32  #13

Quoting: daffy
eng & ire dont fight anymore hello???

But some Brits and some Poles do (for unknown reason).

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peterweg
Edited by: peterweg  Mar 5, 07, 16:32  #14

Quoting: daffy
can you explain then why English is descended from german then peter?



Its not, read the article


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Huegel
  Mar 5, 07, 16:32  #15

Quoting: peterweg
Interesting that English is not a germanic language.


Damn clever Frenchies, coming over and stealing our words for Radiator.

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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:33  #16

tak, moze ale nie brit V ire anymore.

there are some poles who fight the brits and and brits that fight the poles here but not the irish



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daffy
Edited by: daffy  Mar 5, 07, 16:33  #17

Quoting: peterweg
Its not, read the article


Genetics and Language are two different topics.

I read the article. read this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language



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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:35  #18

English is an Anglo-Frisian language brought to southeastern Great Britain in the 5th century AD by Germanic settlers from various parts of northwest Germany (Saxons, Angles) as well as Jutland (Jutes).



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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:35  #19

English, a West Germanic language



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szarlotka
  Mar 5, 07, 16:36  #20

Quoting: daffy
English is an Anglo-Frisian


Ah, you mean we all look and talk like cows eh? Pull the udder one


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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:37  #21

wrong kind of friesian szar



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szarlotka
  Mar 5, 07, 16:38  #22

Quoting: daffy
wrong kind of friesian szar


Oh yes. Foolish of me.


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peterweg
  Mar 5, 07, 16:39  #23

Quoting: daffy
English, a West Germanic language


No, it isn't. Read the article


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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:39  #24

Quoting: szarlotka
Oh yes. Foolish of me.



nie nie, just, eager and you may have variant CJD - jury is still out



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szarlotka
  Mar 5, 07, 16:40  #25

Quoting: daffy
and you may have variant CJD


In which case I intend to go into politics forthwith


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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:41  #26

Quoting: peterweg
Quoting: daffy
English, a West Germanic language


No, it isn't. Read the article


you refuse to read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

Peter, im not arguing with you, im showing you the proof to the statement about the ENGLISH LANGUAGE. The GENETICS of the British and IRISH is a different issue. and one article in the Herald does not change history of the English language



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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:41  #27

Quoting: szarlotka
uoting: daffy
and you may have variant CJD


In which case I intend to go into politics forthwith



over qualified!



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szarlotka
  Mar 5, 07, 16:44  #28

Well it's been a long and trying day so I will bid you all goodnight. At least I can sleep sound in the knowledge that I am genetically structured in such a way to keep up drinking with the Irish on St Patrick's Day. Dobranoc (spelling, jeez)


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daffy
  Mar 5, 07, 16:45  #29

Quoting: szarlotka
that I am genetically structured in such a way to keep up drinking with the Irish on St Patrick's Day.


slainte! ill drink one in your memory!



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Huegel
  Mar 5, 07, 16:46  #30

Those pesky Saxons, Jutes and Angles.

Hmm, Angles, Saxons?

Angle oh Saxons (Matron) Can I hold anything for you Vicar?

Dane Geld isn't he that the guy from Another Level who had an accident with a pair of shears?

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