English people, if you feel bad about WWII, stop!

that only proves that lots of jews lived in our country and they loved it there.the nazis built concentration camps in poland AFTER defeating the polish army not before we did not cooperate.they built the c c in poland because it was easy and comfy 4 them there wasnt a transport issue.but now some so-called sciencist from france and england say The polish concentration camps! even though their countries sent their jews for death to please mr hitler

Ehm... this is 1939...

the US had entered the war in 1942 ...in Asia and somewhere around 1944 in Europe...

The UK - untill late 1940 had been bombing Germany with leaflets saying that there`s still a chance for peace...

...The US and UK had liberated FRANCE, GREECE - and - partly the Beneloux countries as well as Denemark from German occupation - but that`s it.


Or haven`t you heared about the Iron Courtain and the Cold War
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So I`m going to ask once more is this:




the result of stupidity - or lack of education ?

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I`ve read this once more - and I have to say - WTF is this. This statement dosn`t have any kind of logic.

Btw. Yeah without us you wouldn`t have won the war.

People mock what they don't know.

who cares bout the war that was like soooooooo long ago and millions of peeps lost lives from all countries and yes some of u are chattin total rubbish the brits cracked the enigma code check this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/enigma_04.shtml FOOLS lol anyway i need sleep

but 1 last thing the germans hate us brits?? yeah but the world hates germany i mean if german women wont shave their armpits than not our problem :lol nite peeps

British: Your country did not save Poland. Your country did not win the war on it's own and it's true that Polish troops decimated the German army like they did.

As I recall, Polish troops saved whole regiments of English paratroopers in Holland, because the English were too bullheaded (as usual.) to listen to Sosabowski's advice. They screwed their mission, the Polish saved them and who got the blame?

Exactly. I'm extremely happy that they've finally recieved their medals from our queen, and this should have been done 50 years ago, but the English pressured our ministry of defense not to do this because they couldn't admit they've made mistakes too.

And here you type your rubbish again, you know nothing. Read your history books, and prefferably a history book that wasn't written by an English author.

Oh, and the Dutch navy fleet perished totally, they knew they didn't stand a chance, but they drove the Japanese navy back, decimating them by 2/3.. I never hear English people talk about this either. How typical.

English soldiers did a fine job, I honour them, but I also honour every other soldier that perished for my freedom. All you seem to do is tell the world how you saved everyone all on your own.

Nieprawda.

Britain declared war against Germany on 3rd September 1939 - 2 days after Germany invaded Poland.That means the whole reason Britain went to war was because Poland was attacked.Some historians even claim that if Britain and France had stood back and done nothing Hitler would have taken Poland and eventually Russia and left western Europe alone.As it was all the allied nations in Europe were invaded by the nazis.Britain had the sea to defend us so we became the headquarters for resistance against the nazis.In Britain we do see documentaries which mention the courage and skills of the Polish soldiers based in the UK.
Maybe you think you were betrayed by Britain? The problem is that people all over the world think Britain is more powerful than it somtimes is.You were surrounded by Germany and Russia - both disliked Britain and the USA.Winston Churchill wanted to send weapons to the Polish resistance but the Soviets told him they would have to shoot down any British planes.
Unfortunately for Poland in the 20th century you had the misfortune to be a neighbour to 2 of the worst countries-Nazi Germany and then Soviet Russia.

The Germans would at least have taken France - cose if they would attack Russia - France would have been a potential threat to them which could attack them from the back. After Germany would theoreticly take Russia - after a few years - having Russia`s unlimited resources it would attack Britain - and there would be no doubt that Britain would lose such a conflict.

But this is all theory, and it isn`t really important cose:

Both Britain and France had signed an alliance with us - agreing that if one of the 3 countries would have been attacked the rest would come in aid for it`s defense. Germany could have had attacked France first - then we would aid the French - and the war could have been over in a year or so.

It`s true that both Britain and France declared war on Germany - but untill Churchil came to power - that was a big farse... cose though you`ve declared war on Germany - during the first critical months of the war - during the time when Germany could have been stopped - militarelly you - and especially the French - were doing absoloutely nothing.. you`ve tried to negotiate peace with the Germans - but at the same time you were assuring us that the jojnt attack will follow any momment! There were even plans for jojn military operations - according to which we`ve set up our defenses - But nothing happened - our army had been even on the counter offensive - it crossed the Prussian border - but then it was called back to the defense - cose your government was assuring us that help will follow any momment - nothing happened. You`ve aslo screwed us on various occasions during the war. - The Enigma case is a classic - but i.e. what happened to gen. Sikorski ? Had your government been involved in his assasination ? Why is that particular case still considered a matter of British national security ? Why dosn`t your government allow our historians to view the files considering that particular case ?

You are living in a dream world - just like the Polish,French,British in 1939.Anyone can sign an agreement but none of those countries in 1939 had armies capable of defeating the Nazis. When Poland was attacked the Polish cavalry fought with men on horses against German tanks.The British and French armies quickly got pushed out of France.The Germans had built up a massive fanatic war machine - and Poland,France,England were still using equipment from World War 1.If France was attacked first and Poland went to its aid the Polish army would have been wiped out just as quick.If Britain and France had actually gone to aid Poland they would have all been defeated and the Nazis would have conquered all of Europe including Britain.
Its no good always blaming Britain for everything - Winston Churchill made decisions he didn't like but thanks to him there was one country able to fight the Nazis until the Americans entered the war in 1942.
The Warsaw uprising is another example of the Polish blaming Britain for not helping.Warsaw was surrounded by the Germans on one side and Russians on the other.Neither would allow Britain or America to drop supplies to the Polish fighters - but the Polish still decided to have their uprising with virtually no heavy weapons or ammunition.It was very brave but it was a bad decision and wasted the lives of too many people - its no good blaming Britain for your own mistakes.

And you`re writing nonsense..



..in 1939 the number of

troops
tanks
artilary
airplanes

where the Allies are red and Germans (Niemcy) and the USSR (ZSRR) are gray.. looked this way..

...

There had been - one - battle in which ONE Polish cavalery brigade faced TWO German tank divisions and ONE infantry division - that battle had been WON by our cavalery ..and the Germans had lost 160 tanks only in that one single battle:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mokra



So did Germany... the main German tanks were the PzKpfw Pz-I and PzKpfw Pz-II



...

those tanks were being destroyed - with the use of anti tank rifles - like these..



..those things were basicly armoured tractors with machineguns.

the only real tanks the German had at that time were the PzKpfw Pz-III



..they had only a few of them and they were widely used during parades - where they drove in circles to create an impression that there were a lot of them..

..most of the German army - untill 1943.. moved on HORSES.. they had only a few motorized divisions which they used in propaganda movies.









This fanatic war machine was about to run out of ammunition and supplies in late october 1939..



In 1939 our troops were in Prussia - the heartland of the former German Empire!

The Germans would not have won a 2 front war - in 1939 there were only some reserve border troops on the German western border and 5.000.000 French soldiers on the other side.



The Warsaw Uprising was part of a wider uprising that took place in many cities - some of them were succesfull - some not. The Warsaw Uprising would have been succesful if we would recive some equipment from our "allies" - who were supplying the communist partizans in Yugoslavia with something like 30 times more equipment than the it was the case of our resistence during the Warsaw Uprising - but that was only one of the many issues that were`t "ok" when it comes to our mutual cooperation during WWII.

btw. Here you`ve got a nazi propaganda map - showing the military size of various countries in Europe - somewhere around the time when Hitler came to power - this map might be propaganda - but it shows the actual numbers.. How would the World would the history would look right now if the French would agree with us to remove Hitler from power BEFORE he would be allowed build up the German military..

You still don't get it.Forget about these graphs and statistics they mean nothing-don't you know your own history?
Germany invaded Poland on September 1st 1939.Soviet Russian invaded eastern Poland on Sptember 12th 1939.Warsaw surrendered on 27th September 1939.And still you dream that somehow Britain and France could have saved Poland.
France had 5000000 troops that couldn't stop the Germans conquering France-never mind going to Poland and defeating the Germans AND Soviets.



I already answered this:



I guess the answer is knowing when to fight and when not to fight.

No - it`s you who dosn`t understand - that Warsaw had to surrender - cose you were doing nothing.

Yet according to you your brilliant army was killing every Nazi and Soviet soldier that entered Poland.You even believe your army could have walked over to France(how?) and defeated the Nazis when you couldn't even last 4 weeks.



Like I said - less successful nations will always blame Britain for their own failures.

Jeez - is it so hard to understand. It`s 1939..

- We are defending ourselves
- the French are moving their lazy asses onto the German - UNDEFENDED teritory
- The British - are bombing the German supplylines (instead of droping leaflets)

- after the Germans are weaken - we take Berlin

..the Soviets at that time were irrelevant - if they would see that German is backing off they would back off as well - if not - they would take such a beating as they did in 1920.

this was the plan - back then.
...

In September 1939 the Germans lost 40% of all of their tanks and 25% of all of their airplanes, though we were fihting on 4 fronts.

They had literally no defenses in the west - cose most of their army and airforce was here - those 5000.000. French - no matter how cowardly and lazy they were - they would have just walk into the east - and your airforce - instead of dropping leaflest would drop bombs - the war could have ended in one year - and when it comes to the Soviets we could deal with them alone - just as it happened many times before.



And Britain after WWII is a succesful country ? - Ok perhaps more succesful than we are - cose we were somehow sold to the Soviets. But where is the Superpower Great Britain ?

With just a few planes?
This is all fantasy stuff-get real.



Yes,British culture and creativity continue to influence the world.We have terrible management which is why foreign managers are often better at running our companies.We lack the traditional life of France,Italy,Spain(maybe Poland?) but we lead the world in new ideas and creativity.

PS-what do you think of Germany and Russia now?

Realistically,it would be wrong for Britain to still control India,Pakistan,Burma,Hong Kong,Kenya,Zimbabwe etc.The Americans now 'control' Iraq and it is dragging them down-costing them trillions.
Britain still exerts influence via the USA.It is natural that a wealthy English speaking nation of 300 million should have more power than a tiny English speaking nation of 60 million.



Chamberlain was a wretched traitor

hahaha - Well, I can not say that I like Germany or dislike - German politics is often against our interests and what I would find good would be that Germany would get out of our way - we can have very good relations with Germany - but this only depends on the German atitude which isn`t very forthcomming.

I can also tell you what I think about the Germans.. in many cases they are arrogant ignorans and that`s all - when it comes to the Ossies - the former east Germans - they are even more arrogant and ignorant.

When it comes to Russia - Russia is a great country - but it has a very corrupt, imperialistic government - and Russia is a growing threat to us as well as to all of Europe - and we have to fight that threat.

When it comes to Russians - the Russians are good people - in many ways very similar to us - the problem is that in many cases they are brainwashed by almost 90 years of communism - they are easy to be manipulated by their government - to belive everything what the tzar Putin says - and we have to fight it.

But it would be realistic if England wouldn`t have been weaken becaouse of WWII and if the Americans wouldn`t force Churchill to give up all of your colonies. And are all of those colonies better off without British rule ? ...Zimbabwe, Pakistan, Burma, Kenya, Hong Kong..

Iraq is a fully different issue.

I would say it`s rather the US who is exerting its influance thru the UK.. no the other way around.

Yes WWII did weaken Britain but don't forget - in 1920s-30s Britain had mass unemployment,strikes,hunger just like everwhere else.Britain was still almost bankrupt because of WWI and in the great days of empire we had so many people living in absolute poverty.Britain used to send its poor people to Australia,Canada etc.People in UK have been better off since the empire was given up.

Consider this-British companies make more money in Hong Kong than they did when Britain controlled it.



Its like a parent/child relationship.
The parent (Britain) gets older and the child(USA) grows stronger until it is as strong as the parent.Then the child becomes stronger and no longer needs the parents help-but sometimes still needs advice and wisdom from the parent who has more experience.
The child has strength and the parent has experience.The parent can relax and the child must take on more responsibility.Sometimes one will do something the other disagrees with (like Britain disagreed with US involvement in Vietnam)but when things get really bad they will help each other.
A few times things go wrong.The parent should have told the child not to illegally attack Iraq but for whatever stupid reason Blair(British PM) went against his own people and supported Bush more than anyone else.

This was the result of the great recession - but during the second half of the 30s things begun to develop in a better direction.



Yes - but the children no longer want to listen to their parents - and they don`t want to listen at all. Some of them would like to see their parent dead (like Zimbabwe), some are running the house ordering the parent to do various things (US) and most part of the rest of the children dosn`t want to have anything to do with the parent (unless of course when it comes to pumping the parent for money). Wouldn`t it be good to be young again - and bring back the family back into one house ?



OK - I`m not competent when it comes to that issue - but I think that what is important here is the reason why the British companies make more money in Hong Kong - is it becaouse Hong Kong had fallen under Chinese control or is it becaouse of the Globalization and the growing trade in Asia.

Wow....so many Babies