English vs. Polish hostility

Here is a statement that is not naming a specific country,
It is an example of a situation that has been the case with many countries.


Not specifically Polish people - any incoming group.

How, from this, can you think I am specifically blaming Poles, or even the incomers rather than the native population?

No, Osiolku, I read carefully anything you write. But I am also a really curious guy and I like to know what people really mean. That's why I ask many questions. And now, I've got to run, but I'll be back tomorrow (or rather later today already). Thank you for a good chat. All the best to you.

:) Ok. I should've qouted that. I can honestly say that I don't know from experience. This is just through research. Maybe they aren't "dwindling", but rather people are giving that impression.

I also realize that there may be an influx of non poles as well, but this was just in comparison to the amt. of PL that come to the US. As you may know...we aren't so popular any longer ;)

re: I am specifically blaming Poles

- How would I do such a thing?! I have never even remotely thought you would blame us! Osiol, you must understand that I don't identify media in England with the English people. We all should really become aware of that - the meda r not us!

All the best.

PS. You've made a good point about the title of this thread. Indeed - why the English alone? But it's material for another long discusson. We'll fight this stereotype too!

I wonder where you get this impression from.
Some parts of the British media like to stir things up.
The reality, I believe, nearly always, is far more mundane.
Occasionally, stories pop up that sell newspapers.

Zgubiony, I hope you know that I haven't meant all Americans...

All the best to you. Everything's going to be all right with you, you'll see.

re: Some parts of the British media like to stir things up

- The mainstream media mainly perform the brainwashing function. That's how they have been designed and run for the benefit of certain groups.

But I've really got to run now. Damn it!

Of course not ;) It's all good Puzz.

Everything will be fine...you're right about that.

Cheers.


I've seen a few people here, but I know better than to "assume" by just what's written in this forum. I have seen it in the online media though. The one thing that's tough is figuring out who's not legitimate or who's way right-way left. Especially if it's foreign media :) I honestly don't think any media will be square with you...... :/

You're probably right.

I don't go for conspiracy theories that say everythings all controlled by X and/or Y,
but the media is controlled by a small number of people - fate has allowed this to happen.
They have their agenda, based mostly on the idea that pandering to the lowest common denominator
will lead to greatest sales, greatest profit.
This means preying on people's small-mindedness, nimbyisms and insecurities is the way they generally go.

Most people should be credited with more awareness and intelligence.
So what goes out to the world as the situation in this country is a slightly warped interpretation.

As is everywhere else :) I witness other peoples warped interpretations about people in America all the time on the internet....1 sec I have to get my buddy George Bush a beer ;)

Luckily, America is well known enough without him.
Still, there are always the sheep...

quote=Ranj] Quoting: Puzzler
You'll see that prejudice against Poles is thousandfold worse in US than in England [/quote]

Puzzler, Will you please inform us where did you live while in America?

And dont answer my question with another question

re: They have their agenda, based mostly on the idea that pandering to the lowest common denominator will lead to greatest sales, greatest profit

- Not true - not entirely true. The media practically EVERYWHERE (not just in Britain) are predominantly political instruments, used to form and maintain given political ideas (perception) in the 'masses.'

Maybe some tabloids care mostly, or entirely, for profit, but, from my observation, they are politicised too.

re; Puzzler, Will you please inform us where did you live while in America?


Dear sledzie (herrings), I lived in Chicago.

It is not only governments who wield political power.
If a tabloid in the UK such as The Sun endorses a party in a general election, they will probably win.
Money speaks loudest.

Ok so you lived in my city, I`m sure there there are cases of prejudice
here, just like any where else in the world.

In Chicago there are 1.8 million Poles living here, outside of Warsaw it
would be the biggest Polish city in the world its called (Polonia) here.

If it was so prejudice why would people keep coming here?

Maybe you had a bad experience but Chicago has embrassed the Polish community
for over a 150 years and I have never encountered this extreme prejudice of
which you speak.

Thats if you even really lived here... Tell me where St. Ladislaus is located?

Hahaha mate you crack me up cheers!

Does anyone take this guy seriously or is it all about winding him up?

Good point Osiol but I cant help feeling this suggests that the average Brit is a bit of a clown which is harsh regardless of how true it might be

And you're an average what?

Would be loathed to describe myself as an average anything me ol' china....

Fair enough.

I've never met a truly average person.
I've met people with dodgy opinions, weak minds and so on.
I know people who buy the Daily Mail every day, just for the crosswords.

seven across,cause of nations troubles ; A*Y*** S*E*ER*.....five down; reasons why Brits emigrate to spain ; IL**G** IM**R**T*; who do we all have wet dreams about being our PM again W**ST*N C**R*H**l.............
he he,bought the rag today,only for the free nature dvd,hid it in a copy of Readers Wives to save my embaresment at the cash desk :)

its not worse, its not even close, you are definately *wrong* and there are dozens
of states with at least two/three Polish cities where the majority is Polish and they
hold major festivals and cook great food and dress up and have dances and its a
blast.. no one in the Uk has a polish festival do they?? do they get together and
have a festival with the whole city? and do people of all countries come to enjoy it?

do they dance and sing to Polska music? or buy /sell Polish items? traditional
culture lives in the united states, its never been stopped or ridiculed by anyone
and matter of fact the food attracts the bigger crowds because everyone loves
Polish and polish food here in America.. very popular..

yep, I think you had a sniff of crack alright like ranj said.. lol.

Ps.. I am not falling into your *SIC* crap either,, I just told you and there is no
other answers to this.. this is life in America.. and we live it.. so get your facts straight
you can write all the books you want, but the truth lies within those living it. and not
in some dreamworld! facts have been proven over and over to you so whatever
you write in retort to this wont even matter,. because you got your answers!!

all I can say is read again.. if you dont understand..

he probably flew in for a weekend..

and with his attitude I am sure people were not so nice. its not hard to
get angry.. he doesnt try to hard to be nice on here why should anyone
believe any different outside of this forum.

Yes I am insinuating that you are not nice outside of this forum, it has nothing to
do with poloniphobia to answer your next predictable questions which have
irritated and angered the whole forum.. there is much proof of that.

yes you havent tried to hard to be nice, least only when its convienent for you and
benefits you.

Yes I say outside of this forum, I dont know your real life, but I do believe
you have a character ( based on my opinion) to which isnt so blessed to be
easy going and out going.. sorry those are facts :(

oh you are so predictable.

Not yet but as they start to spread out they might start to infect us with their culture. If they are in Chicago in large numbers I have no objection but to think of us having the same problem here...why do Poles want to come to England in large numbers anyway, was it not Churchill who sold Poland to Stalin?

our (almost city) flies the Polish flag on may the 3rd,its a nice start,we dont have any specifically Polish festivals here as yet,but how many festivals are organised by the under 25's anyway? what i mean is,in the States you have huge Polish american comunities dating back 150 odd years,over here you have two main groups, old boys who fought with Anders or in the Home Army and had to/chose to stay here,ie 80+year olds,and young singles/couples over here to work hard and in some case too hard maybe to help mums and dads back home,they dont seem like the natural demografic to start up festivals and trad dancing events etc,maybe in 5 - 10 years with those who settle but not just yet.

What f---ing Planet are you living on sunshine???

Was there somethig wrong with what I said Mr Graham? The general tone of your reply would seem to suggest you disagree with me.

-- the above post was in response to ajgraham's earlier reply to me.

where you at kmiot???