English vs. Polish hostility

I think you will find that the government now applies such stricter rules for migrants from outside the EU.The foreign criminals you refer to mostly came here several years ago or as asylum seekers/illegal immigrants rather than lawful immigrants(few lawful immigrants commit crimes).I agree that any asylum seeker/illegal immigrant who commits a crime should serve their sentence then be deported.

i got to comr in pn this,it,s some brits that are kicking brits by sacking britt workers in favour of polish workers shere f...king greed .instead they should employ po;es to increase and make there companies grow be fair to all,this is where bad feeling developes but there is still a lot of respect for how hard they are prepared to work.wake up bosses grow not and not groan cos you got to get up an hour earlier as for illagal peoples here and found to be doing wrong whatever wrong that may be dont sentence them and fill the prisons up , which they seem to be able to walk of send them straight bak to where ever and empty the prisons and save money instead of us paying to keep them in comfort. and as for the yank blowing his trumpet about wars and how good they are they f...cked up every war they been in and dragged the british with them and before you we would not of done germans without the yanks we had the nohow they had the money and we paid it all back . b;ess those poor soles that did gave there all to get rid of one horrile german what different life we would of had now mind you america is no prime example of so called freedom and as for camara britton now going towards commu/freedom do as we say type 3600 new laws in 2 years you onlly got to fart and they block off the M25 for hrs freedom ye ok carefull what you wish for you might just get it why am i knocking the yanks,] cos they were over sexed, overpaid, and over here,

this is the only part that i disagree with from what you have said, i realise that there are such restrictions on people outside of the EU but it should be the same for all.


if i'm getting you right here your saying that Brits are being sacked because the Polish will require cheaper wages, if this is what your saying then i can emphatically agree with you. I've always been in support of the British workers, after all were in Britain. We have many trained and very good builders, plumbers, electricians, brick layers, roofers etc. They are often shafted for the EU workers who are often not up to the standard required but are employed due to the fact you can pay them peanuts.


a way to do this is send all foriegn nationals who are serving a six month sentence or more back to their country of origin and not be allowed back into the UK. That would free up a lot of spaces and we wouldn't need to build anymore prisons for a while :)

Roofer1......How much have you had to drink mate?

It's true that there are many tradesmen but also true that there are many, many more required. Apprenticeships are not being picked up as they were before. So there is a gap in the market which, whether it's popular or not, is being filled by Polish workers.

aj i dont drink, if i did i would be a f...king pest i get the hump when i here anyone knock a tryer

yeah i understand that dolly but these 'polish workers' or wherever they are coming from in europe don't tend to be up to the standards required in this country which is disappointing and also dangerous not only to themselves but their customers.

My stepfather is a plumber, electrician, builder you name it he does it, the amount of times he has had to go and fix something after these cowboys have been in is amazing. It should not be happening and gives the trade a bad name

I'm not really arguing with you T. The point is this, people are complaining about the standard of work from Polish tradesmen but they are filling a gap created by the lack of interest from British people. A lot has to be done to encourage young Brits to pick up a trade.

Thats so true.
There are too few homegrown tradesmen now..

i know dolly but we should only let the people in to work in our country who have the adequate skills to do so, am i right or am i right??


totally agree with this


i know your not :) I wasn't arguing with you either

This is correct. It doesn't seem that way when you pick up a Yellow Pages and can find hundreds of plumbers, joiners etc but the truth is, there is a shortage.



No, because you could work as a plumber in Poland but come to Britain and take a job as a kitchen assistant. It's a grey area. I'm not truly sure how it works here but I don't think there's a rule saying you must be up to a certain standard to work your trade in UK. You can ask anyone to fit your new central heating, for example, they don't have to be Corgi registered. It's a risk that the consumer takes (to save a few pounds).

well there are all kinds of things that you need in trades such as electrician, plumber etc for example you need to be corgi registered if your a plumber. The people i am talking about are not.

I take your point about people taking different jobs, but thats where the hand picking comes in as far as i'm concerned.


sorry PD if your working with central heating your going to be dealing with Boilers etc, for this you need to be corgi registered

They are talking about this on Radio 4 at the moment.

Edit: it's just finished.

No you don't. It's advisable to register yourself though.

Quite honestly, as a tradesman in this country, you can generally work without being registered to anyone.



It is advisable to take on a Corgi registered plumber/heating engineer, yes. However, there are companies who are not registered who fit heating (and they are British too). Take my word on this.

lol, I won't bother looking for it then... :)

There is a similar rule here.

I accepted a corgi registered plumber recently.
The little dog had a tag on his collar, so I let him sort out my central heating.
I think he was Welsh though.
Cor = small
Ci (Gi) = dog

No doubt. Here though, people operate outwith the rules. I know tradesmen and I know a friend of mine had her heating put in by an engineer who was not registered, yes it was very cheap, but I think that's a stupid chance to take.

wow wow wow, i'm sure you do dolly, my step father had to go and renew his license and make sure it was up to date.

Plus all these people you see on 'cowboy' shows etc they are all not corgi registered yet fake that they are.


sorry i have family in the trade i can't :)

trustcorgi.com/findinstaller/findinstallerlanding.htmx


hay i'm sure there is, i wasn't pointing out Polish in particular, i'm sure there are plumbers, electricians, builders etc who are polish and very good :) its just the ones who are bad and don't get the jobs in Poland may come here, lol :)


hahahaha, there probably better at the heating than some of the cowboys

Young people with a student education are not tradesmen. They have seen a chance to earn money and learnt from others.

no no no no i'm not talking about the students, i mean the failed electricians, builders etc the 'cowboys' who come here. I know the students come for better themselves and usually are of a very good standard

He'd have to renew it because he has originally done things correctly and registered.

CORGI estimate there could be as many as 20,000 people working illegally on gas in the UK.

This a quote from Corgi web site (this webby is on my favourites). It therefore points out that there is a loophole.

Registered Corgi or Polish equivalent have to sign something similar to a guarantee card.
If it's not signed by a qualified engineer, you are not insured. It would be wise to have any such appliance checked.

yes they are working illegally and not CORGI registered, it does not mean there is a loop whole it just means 'cowboys' don't bother to register and hope people don't ask to see their registration. Or on the other hand they are out of date certificates they show or just fake the certificates themselves

I'm with you on that. My point way back is that people complain about some Polish standards of plumbing etc but there are many British tradesmen whose standards are just as low, if not lower, and people are employing them too.

Well, it must mean there is some kind of "hole" when 20,000 approx can work without being registered. Some clients couldn't care less about certificates, it's their bank accounts they are thinking about mostly. Sad, but true.

its not that they can work without its just that they do because they can get away with it.


agreed on this point

This is my point. You don't know who has formal training and who had on the job training from his mate. There are plenty people who after finishing university have spent time on British building sites.
I noticed that one of the adds on this site [PF] called for building personel.... with documentation.
Some companies are aware of their responsibility to the client. It seems that business is taking the lead rather than the government.

Well, really, that's just what I said but never mind... :)

Agreed. It's not a new problem by any means.