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Do EU members need RESIDENCE CARD IN POLAND


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crasyman77
  Nov 3, 07, 07:38  #1

I am from malta i am EU citizen do i need to do residence card, i have been living here for one year. How can i do thies residence card, i have permantant residence where to live, what should i do to have some document

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ukpolska
Edited by: ukpolska  Nov 3, 07, 08:20  #2

Firstly, you should have a residence card.
Residence card=Karta pobytu. You can get it from Urząd Wojewódzki.
Although I must add that, they are undecided on what to give you and at the moment and it is just a bit of paper. It used to be like an ID card with your picture and other info on it, but they have stopped this now.

You need these for working.
Pesel you can get from the town hall where you live and NIP from local tax office.

I would recommend when you get these that you should seriously think about going self-employed as there is a offer on at the moment where you only pay 50% national health contributions "zus" for two years, along with the tax savings it can really help.

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jasiek
  Nov 3, 07, 09:12  #3

I was under the impression that a pesel was a personal identification number given only to Poles. I have always just used either my karta pobytu or passport number.

Is it true that foreigners can also obtain a pesel number??

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ukpolska
  Nov 3, 07, 09:25  #4

Quoting: jasiek
Is it true that foreigners can also obtain a pesel number??

Yes it is, and I have had mine for seven years now and I am British.

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crasyman77
  Nov 4, 07, 02:37  #5

So To work here in poland i need to have all these things? regarding the national insurance and tax do you think i have to pay it also in my country Malta? do you guys pay also in UK?

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ukpolska
  Nov 4, 07, 08:50  #6

Quoting: crasyman77
regarding the national insurance and tax do you think i have to pay it also in my country Malta?


It depends if you are going to stay here for a long time regarding national insurance i.e. zus, because without it you are not eligible for health service care. Tax you will have to pay whatever fiddle the the company or yourself puts on it, someone has to pay in the end, so as I said it is better if you go self-employed as you will be able to claim a percentage back yourself.

I am not too sure what the agreement is between Malta and Poland is regarding tax rebates, but you might be able to claim the tax back for your work in Poland if it is temporary work.

Quoting: crasyman77
do you guys pay also in UK?


No you only pay tax in the country that you are working.

Quoting: crasyman77
So To work here in Poland i need to have all these things?


This depends, if you are going to live in Poland all your life then you will have to pay (zus) national insurance contributions for health care and pension and such like, but there are many different contracts that you can be employed with, one is a short term contract that you are providing a temporary service for a company where you do not have to pay zus, but this is often used as a fiddle to employ people so that the employer avoids paying zus contributions, which can add up to 700zl per month. Therefore, many employers prefer this method as it is cheaper for them, but it gives you nothing as regards health care and such like.

I hope that is understandable as I have a streaming cold and finding it quite difficult to concentrate. :O(

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crasyman77
  Nov 5, 07, 04:54  #7

Thenk you very much for your help it is real of great help to me now this monring i am going to office to ask for residence card. thank i hope your cold get better have anice day

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crasyman77
  Nov 6, 07, 06:05  #8

I went to try to get this residence card. they told me that to stay more the 3 months in poland we need VISA is it true? we are EU members i have been here for much longer and at the border they never stamp my passport how can they know when i cam in poland? did it happen to anyone? and why they ask for insurace I am still not working here but i have paid it always in MALTA. any suggestions?

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telefonitika
Edited by: telefonitika  Nov 6, 07, 06:24  #9

speak to your embassy or consulate would be my best bet mate they will give you advise other than that not really sure as on the british website for the polish embassy it states that if you intend to stay longer than 90days (3months) you must apply for a residence permit within 3 days of arrival in Poland at the nearest government area office cant remember from top of my head the exact name

this is some info about uk citizens migrating to poland http://novea.pl/aboutPoland.htm

i did do a search for someone from malta but not found anything yet to assist you

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ukpolska
Edited by: ukpolska  Nov 6, 07, 06:53  #10

This is all I could find :O)

Address Maltese Consulate
Ul. Sardynska 5 m 35
02-761 Warsaw
Poland
Telephone (+48) (22) 6421556
Telefax (+48) (22) 6428164
E-mail magsam@wa.home.pl
Website
Office Hours 09.00-13.00
Head of Mission Mrs Krystyna Maria Mikulanka, Consul

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crasyman77
  Nov 6, 07, 09:39  #11

thank you mate I realy appreciate your help. it is amasing sometimes these people that work in the offices are amasingly selfish

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ukpolska
  Nov 6, 07, 09:41  #12

Quoting: crasyman77
it is amasing sometimes these people that work in the offices are amasingly selfish

This is Poland for you lol

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crasyman77
  Nov 6, 07, 10:11  #13

The email though that you wrot eis not good do you think you did some typing mistake? please can you contact me on skype or on email ipgalea@yahoo.com
skype name is crasyman77

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Czestochowa
  Nov 7, 07, 02:33  #14

crasyman77, how long have you been in Poland now?

I'm coming up for 3 months and don't have a Temp Residence Card yet. I'd like to know if I can leave Poland for a few weeks and then come back and if my 3 months start again?

This Residency Card business confuses me!

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crasyman77
  Nov 7, 07, 04:58  #15

i am still confused even me i am trying to get to know, but i have been in poland on and off nearly one year now

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ukpolska
  Nov 7, 07, 07:48  #16

Quoting: Czestochowa
Czestochowa

You may find some help here URL

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carlb
  Mar 2, 08, 08:58  #17

I'm in a similar situation having been here for 4 months. I contacted the British Embassy asking them to clarify whether I must have a residency permit if I leave Poland and come back at a later late. They replied with the following formal response:

It is obligatory for all EU Citizens to obtain a Residency Registration Certificate confirming their stay in Poland (Zaświadczenie o Zarejestrowaniu Pobytu Obywateli Unii Europejskiej w Polsce).

The application for the certificate must be lodged in person to the appropriate Regional Voivod Office (Urząd Wojewódzki) after 3 months stay in Poland.
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It doesn't mention what the implications are if you do not obtain this certificate.. Anybody know?

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benszymanski
  Mar 2, 08, 10:06  #18

My experience of local registration is here: zameldowanie.

I know that lots of people don't bother registering though - effectively they are here just as 'tourists'. Technically illegal but I don't see how anyone can prove they have been here longer than 3 months.

Because I haven't had the chance to go to Krakow and get my karta pobytu yet I just keep re-registering locally every 3 months. I asked about getting a karta pobytu on this forum just the other day in fact: karta pobytu in krakow

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Harry
  Mar 3, 08, 06:11  #19

carlb wrote:
It doesn't mention what the implications are if you do not obtain this certificate.. Anybody know?

You are breaking the law. Does anybody give a sh*t? No, not really.

However, not having your TRC means that you can't do things like register a car (for longer than three months) and getting one really is not that much hassle.

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dnz
  Jul 7, 08, 07:22  #20

I have just got my papers from the voivod office and there is no Pesal, What do I do in order to get a pesal? I want to replace my UK credit card with a Polish one to avoid paying all the overseas charges and as I live here now it seems to make sense? Any ideas?

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benszymanski
  Jul 7, 08, 12:33  #21

Can't tell you about getting a Pesel as haven't gone about it myself, but you don't need a Pesel to get a credit card. I don't have one and got a credit card from Bank BGŻ without too much hassle. Plus as per the advice of a couple of forum members here, I am in the process of opening an account with mbank.pl who seem to be quite foreigner friendly - their website is even in English! Although the site says you don't need a Pesel but the guy on the phone told me I did. Asked him to check with his manager and then he said that I didn't...

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cjj
  Jul 8, 08, 07:19  #22

fyi
Last week I tried to use my karta pobytu in a bank in Gdansk - opening a new account type of transaction - and the bank wouldn't accept it. Passports only, said their rules...

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ukpolska
  Jul 8, 08, 07:29  #23

cjj:
Last week I tried to use my karta pobytu in a bank in Gdansk - opening a new account type of transaction - and the bank wouldn't accept it. Passports only, said their rules...

That's because they are worthless now according to my local office.
I went to renew my karta pobytu a couple of weeks ago, because of a change of address, and they told me that they are obsolete now and the Government is undecided what to do next.
All I got was a piece of paper with another date for six months and was told to come back then, although I don't trust them and am trying to find more information myself.

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cjj
  Jul 9, 08, 01:03  #24

Splendid ...

So does this mean that I should carry my passport at all times?

/hits head gently but repeatedly off desk/

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benszymanski
  Jul 9, 08, 01:18  #25

technically yes. Other EU citizens can carry their ID cards but of course we don't have those (yet...)

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sobieski
  Jul 9, 08, 03:37  #26

If you go to your local "Gmina" to get your meldunek, your PESEL is written on top of it. In my experience you need a Pesel for pretty much everything in Poland.
For example I went back to my home country Belgium on holidays and wanted an EKUZ card - well the first thing the NFZ wants you to fill in on their forms is that PESEL...

As for ID-cards I have heard a rumour that they are thinking of issuing ID cards for EU citizens... I also still have one of these flimsy plastic karta pobytu with my photo on.

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