EU now sending troops to Africa?

as I said move to Bielarus.

and we have good agreement in cases you mentioned.

Firstly we will have our imigration policy, nobody will order us to take musilms.

There are different states in USA ... California is much different than sth Caroline

I have enough socialism to enjoy in the EU. Maybe you should move to Brussels?

you have lost elections ... so as I said you can sit and cry/pray

You have no idea about the EU, cannot even defend swindles of politicians that you support. You have no idea about the US. Thus just make one line long personal arguments.



This is your knowledge about the EU. We need to allow all those Muslims that the rest ofg the EU grant citizenship to.

heheh I don't support Kacz and his deals frm XIX century, all in all this deal (EU tribunal) is nice achievment

I see que of muslims form France and UK migrating to Poland

They are closer to you not to me.

you are closer to

Great, another personal attack. Can you at least back this by reasonable argument? Or everybody who disagree with you is a fascist? How smart!

some did some didn't - every country's existance is supported by propaganda and US is not immune to it - it has so many social problems that I don't even know where to start.
true, they were afraind of USSR made socialism which has little to do with the european socialism which was created in Europe BTW
they were in the past - you seem to forget about the US imperialism tendencies - I am being diplomatic, not to mention a well fuctioning racism
not true, some european countries are more socialistic than others, such as Germany and Scandinavian countries. Europe is not homgenous when it comes to social politics.

minimum wage is a basic tool for the country to have a healthy economic system- not to mention having a middle class prospering. US is trying to figure out how to sustain the middle class and for a good reason. The better wages people make, the less social problems as a result/ less crime, which is important. Right now US is struggling with the incarceration system which is not a solution to crime.
there is nothing wrong with that - there is enough money in the developed countries to cover the costs.
that was invented in Britain long time ago.

in the past they had - there is more imperialism which I would not call a good moral fundation
that should not be an argument since the homosexual population is less than 10% on average and the argument that is treathens the heterosexual family values has no standing whatsoever. The heterosexual family values are affected more by the economy than anything esle. Abortion is another result of economics and a consumer life style which has been spreading in the West for a long time.
they were invited as guest workers at one time and I have no solution for that.
I see that you are a fan of UPR. I am personaly not but I have some really good discussions everytime I visit Poland with somebody who is.
It is easy to glorify US when one is so far away. The same goes for EU;)

Ok what is your proposition for Poland. Realistic please because now you moan: EU die, EU muslims, EU bureaucracy. What is more think how Russia would talk to us if we werent member of EU ... Bielarus. Think about opened market for our goods, think about peace in europe.

I'm talking about people that established this country, USSR did not exist at that time.



Racism is everywhere. Recently the US indeed have imperial tendencies however in the past they were more isolationists.



Yes, some are more socialistic, some less but every each is socialist. Thus most of them is like I described. They don't think on their own, their brain work like receiver of low quality media outlets and government requests.



Increased cause unemployment and black market.



So, we not even a single country managed to handle well this issue? Why do you think that your government spend your money better than you?



The EU commissioner Frattini has an idea to bring them more! Year by year.

While homo-"marriages" and abortions have nothing to do with European civilization based on Christianity. Even atheists like Oriana Fallaci are aware of this problem.

Oh I see you don't have any proposition that is why you are out of parlament :)

I have no intention to declare a war to anybody. My idea for Poland is close to UPR program, this is proper direction.

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we have taken British out-put so decissions about homo marriages, euthanasia, social benefits, will be made in Poland ... find majority for your ideas in Poland ...

so if socialsim didn't exist they could not bring it in, or could they. Error in logical thinking Less.
it still doesn't make it right and it is widely overused as a political tool.
US has evolved over the years and has changed a lot, therefore your referance to their constitution has little use , if any.
there is a great history of european socialism and Marx -living is the exhile and being suported by Engles most of his life just addressed the social need for it. You seem to forget that socialism was created in response to capitalism , if one wanted to put it in a siplified way.
French revolution was another attempt of social conciousness I would say. So there is a long history of european socialism which should not be taken for granted and could be a good explanation what Europe is about today, together with EU. How could you even say that people don't think on their own - it is a european way of thinking. I think that US is more based on media influance than Europe.
how so. I am lost here.
some have, some haven't. I wil resort to scadinavian coutries again. They have the best solution so far.
where did I say that?
again, I don't see it as a threat to european community to the extend you do.
oh, Oriana. I have read her work on Muslim invasion and I think she is just paranoid and not the same journalist and a person she used to be.

You have much of trust in competences of PiS negotiators. British were worried about other issues and I think that they got what they wanted. While in Poland I already heard voices from the left that this opt-out wont work like PiS claim. Of course in the bureaucratic EU, this is nearly impossible to find out how this opt-out will really work. One would need to analyze many documents but which ones? Bad laws cause that final solution often depends from decision of constitutional court. Judges nominated by certain political parties have certain bias in some direction as well. I don't trust PiS, they are simply incompetent.



Yes, error but yours.. :) It doesn't matter whether socialism as we now understand existed at that time. What is important, that generation of Americans did not have socialist mentality and current generation of Europeans have it.

However this is funny how you associate socialism so strictly with the Soviet Union. :)



It does matter. Till they respected their constitution, they were developing well. These days they have recession because they follow Europe too much. While Europe itself is deeply stuck in bureaucracy and in constant crisis. They adopted few years ago so called "Lisbon strategy" to catch up with the US, today they are even more behind and the US made so many mistakes...



Thank you for such history, Marx, Engels, Robespierre and Vendee genocide. Great things have great outcomes, socialism totally failed. Those from French revolution deserved for its own Nurnberg.



Simply, cost of work rise, employers can afford to employ less people. Thus they employ them illegally and workers lose all social privileges. If they disagree, they are unemployed.



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This is well without bottom. Rich countries might waste money for this destination, some day they will stop to be rich. When they were earning their wealth, they were not so socialistic.



I understand that you want government to take your money (high taxes) and fund you "free" health care. (which is never in good shape) You could pay directly to doctors, without bureaucratic middleman. Avoiding corruption as well, choosing the best offer not preferred by the government from some unknown reasons.



Society that don't respect even human life cannot succeed. Promotion of sexual deviations as an alternative style of live wont help them as well. When family is targeted, economy will collapse for sure.

I didn't say that. I mentioned communism, because USSR was the frst country to adopt it.
you just contradicted yourself there.
what do you mean by genocide.
that is such general statement that it doesn't add to the discussion at all. Common - give me something I can argue with.
well, it that case you need to remember that eg Polish government makes the employers pay through the roof in order to keep the worker (ZUS, taxes), and the minimum wage in Poland is quite unrealistic.
well, the general health and longivity has improved a great deal over the years and this might be one of the reasons why health system costs so much, but I think that there is more to it than that. I would need to look into statistics for particular countries and when it comes to the Polish health system - it was never good anyways.
another general statement - every country has its own system and different problems.

no. If there are other options I would be interested too. However, people such as yourself are willing to do it in theory (correct me if I am wrong), which is speculate about the private health system, because the public one is not perfect. Then, when the private one is not gonna work - you will want to control it to the point that it becomes a "socialistic" way of running the bussiness anyways, because you would want to check for corruption.
In my opinion the family has been targeted in Poland for years. Thanks to the resiliance of Polish people it didn't fall apart during the communists times (it was not perfect, there the families were more stable then they are now. Therefore the system which is in place in Poland is not family friendly, inspite of what some groups have claimed so far.

This is not about helping any people. Some "uber Europeans" just want EU to play a global superpower like America does. What they don't get is that this can be the 2nd Somalia (just watch Blackhowk down) and then so tiny forces will be simply forced to withdraw (escape) and result would be only humilitation. But who cares If things like this one are good excuse to create more "jobs" in EU's HQ.

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we will have our Judge in EU tribunal of justice like France Germany UK Spain and Italy ... one seat will always be for Poland what is more one additional seat will be for one small country and other small countries will have cadency (our iniciative as well). Big EU countries (Poland as well) will always have one seat and rest will sometimes have opportunity to have judge in EU tribunal

Well, my feeings about the EU are mixed, but if Poland is going to take part, then try to
gain some power in it...meanwhile, make sure Poland supplies it's troops with plenty of good pivo, vodka, and most importantly, ice machines, if they go to CAE or Chad.

"Heres an idea,thanks for the help and all that but really, we helped create this mess we should be the ones to sort it out..."
Nope,not lost it,my position is simple,as I said earlier with the US Poland doesnt have any obligation to Africa,cleaning up these problems should first and foremost be left to African Union forces,if that fails(no sn iggering at the back..) the second line should be those European countries who carved up Africa then layed down the meaningless "borders" that have been the cause of so much trouble. ie Britain,France ,Germany.Belgium ,Spain and Portugal .Only if others want to get involved for altruistic reasons should they feel obligated.

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Socialism brought only misery, this is rather you the one who needs to provide positive example to defend.



We discuss impact of increases of minimum wages in general. Beside of that this is not the only cost of work. Poland had always large grey zone.



For example Sweden.


But till government take your money on this destination, you or at least most of people cannot afford other options. Government should be excluded from this process.


But always they were aware of it. Today those who attack family present themselves to be their friends, that they care about their health, prosperity and happiness.

lesser,
I just noticed that we are way off topic here.

well, I hope that changes in Poland will be for the best in the future.

An Irish Anarchist in Africa

Central African Republic:
You see how we suffer?---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------
I TRIP TO BERBERATI
We had very little prior information about the Central African Republic, commonly known as the CAR. Our guidebook had only a couple of pages about it, most of which seemed to be very out of date, with almost no concrete information. We had heard the tales of the dictator Bokassa who used to publically feed his enemies to his pet lions and crocodiles, who had ordered massacres of protesting primary school kids and who had been rumoured to indulge in cannabalism, but that was in the 1970's.
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/africa/accounts/chekov/car.html for the rest of the story.

I was working on some UN resolutions for my International Relations class and let me tell you the situation is being gravely over looked by America. Although we have publicly declared whats happening in Darfur as Genocide nothing has been done. A lot of this has to do with the AU (African Union) The AU plays a large part on countries and IGO not wanting to get involved because every time someone gets involved the AU responds saying that they are stable enough to handle there own problems, however they just recently within the past year decided that the travesty in Darfur was actually genocide soo it's kind of crazy.

Dzhaklin wrote:

I was working on some UN resolutions for my International Relations class and let me tell you the situation is being gravely over looked by America.

No, it's not overlooked by America, it's just that Bush, Cheney et al can't figure out how to make any money off of it.

Government not people and yes the mainly executive council. Bush has even on occasion called it genocide, but they haven't done anything about it.