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matthias
  Jan 22, 08, 09:56  #1

I didn't realize this was an issue until I skope with someone on this forum.

Who would win in a war between Russia and EU. No American involvement or anybody else.

I think Russia no question. But willing to discuss it.


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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 10:00  #2

Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened - army chief

MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080119/97339084.html


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Foreigner4
  Jan 22, 08, 10:08  #3

seeing as this has been started by an american why not just play toy soldiers with your own countrymen. what a surprise the pseudo-pole celinski has chimed in as well. bloody yanks, do you even know how to push a different topic or is conflict the only thing you jerks are allowed to think about?

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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 10:12  #4

Foreigner4 wrote:
or is conflict the only thing you jerks are allowed to think about?


Funny you seem to make it in to all the same topic's.

matthias wrote:
No American involvement or anybody else.



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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Jan 22, 08, 11:20  #5

Foreignor you little tree hugger don't be so emotional. First of all Im polish I was born in Poland. second this is a hypothetical and in case you didn't notice wars have been around for 1000s of years. So don't be a baby. I support peace but sometimes we are not given a chance and have no choice. I would like to see you talk with Hitler and reach a compromise. Oh wait didn't Stalin to that and Hitler turned on him. Dumbass learn your history


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BubbaWoo
  Jan 22, 08, 11:23  #6

matthias wrote:
First of all Im polish I was born in Poland


painfully obvious

but given your obvious affinity for russia one could almost be forgiven for thinking that was your home country

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Grzegorz_
  Jan 22, 08, 11:27  #7

matthias wrote:
war between Russia and EU


First of all that's not possible - in case of problems most of EU countries would just try to kiss Russian butt like they did with Adolf but If all EU countries really wanted to fight and nuclear weapon wasn't involved then Russians would be defeated quite easily.


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Topolski
  Jan 22, 08, 11:29  #8

bloody yanks, huh?

Yeah, I guess America could play "toy soldiers" but I think they may be a little preoccupied with something else. The war in Iraq, not sure if you knew about that or not.

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Jan 22, 08, 11:30  #9

bubbawoo lol that's funny
this issue would not have come up if some idiot wouldn't say EU can protect poland from russia

also this is a forum we can discuss whatever topic we want. ever heard of freedom of speech. America camera up with that

Gregorsz good post. but obviously russia is not going to think twice about using nukes.


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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Jan 22, 08, 11:34  #10

as the americans have shown us, any fool can pull a trigger or push a button, but if it came done to having a proper ruck why do you think the odds are so firmly stacked in russias favour?

Grzegorz_ wrote:
in case of problems most of EU countries would just try to kiss Russian butt


lol - if it came to that most eu countries would do the sensible thing and give poland back

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Jan 22, 08, 11:38  #11

yeah bubba that's why Eu can't provide poland security but america can. EU doesn't give a ****

Also celinski read that article. Russia seams to toned down the rhetoric. Sikorki had meeting with Russia, they said they won't interefere. about time they stop threatening, its not like poland was scared but cowards in western eu were


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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 11:41  #12

BubbaWoo wrote:
give poland back



Are you that stupid to think Poland will never be anything but free.


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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Jan 22, 08, 11:43  #13

well, of course hoping they are, but history tells another story... as we say in england, if you cant look after you and yours then well...

matty, your usual crap aside, perhaps you could expalin to the obviously ignorant exactly why you think russia could have the eu in a barny...

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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 11:45  #14

BubbaWoo wrote:
as we say in england, if you cant look after you and yours then well...


LOL gotta get the anti missile in yesterday.


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Topolski
  Jan 22, 08, 11:46  #15

Bubbawoo, you're a little misinformed. It was in fact "terrorists" that attacked America. If you can take yourself back to September 11, 2001. In which case, I believe they are the ones that have shown us "any fool can pull a trigger or push a button"

Make sure before you start pointing fingers at Americans you know what you're talking about.

By the way, where are you from?

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Jan 22, 08, 11:46  #16

yeah that's why we don't rely on England. that and also because russia would destroy them

also funny you mention that maybe england can take your advise. they rely on america also.


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BubbaWoo
  Jan 22, 08, 11:48  #17

topolowski youve obviously got polish blood in you as youve managed to misread everything on this thread and bring in something totally unrelated... but thanks for your valued contribution...

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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 11:52  #18

BubbaWoo wrote:
totally unrelated


It is very related. Thanks topolowski. Due to the fact that Russia is flexing toward everyone that doesn't kiss their but*'s. Maybe Russia should get off their but*ts and help on the war on terror, thats right they are busy counting their money on all the oil they *****.


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BubbaWoo
  Jan 22, 08, 11:55  #19

sorry, i thought we were talking about who would win if russia and the eu went to war...

but i can see you would rather talk about america...

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Topolski
  Jan 22, 08, 11:57  #20

You're right it doesn't have to do with getting into a "ruck" with Russia, I was helping you get your facts straight about who has shown us any fool can pull a trigger.
So, it was related.

And as for the war, the Brits would be too busy having tea..

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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 12:08  #21

BubbaWoo wrote:
to keep poland as a buffer against the russian


Poland is a very independent country. Just because Russia killed and exilied 40% does not mean they are used by anyone other that Russia that decied to steal her. Maybe Russia should pay up for stealing what was never theirs. War crimes for killing in "Katyn, and eastern Poland. What about wages for Polish labor camps, think it's about time they paid their workers that lived to tell.


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Shawn_H
  Jan 22, 08, 12:14  #22

celinski wrote:
Russia that decied to steal her

But, unfortunately for the Polish Nation, to the victor, went the spoils....


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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Jan 22, 08, 14:03  #23

its TITBIT and,no they dont.
"ya all" fek me,thats a west texas drawl if evah ah heard one....
topolskA,I was not getting into a debate about different countries abilities to dig deep(yes ,sounds right seanus,re scotland donating more than US),
I was merely pointing out that you yourself are a lowlife for laughing at flood victims. So stick that in yer pipe and smoke it sunshine.
Topolski wrote:
Like I said, brush up on your history

tell me ONE thing US administrations have ever done not out of self interest,just one.


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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 14:04  #24

Topolski wrote:
Try coming up with something that ya'll have done more recently.


Is the USA the only one that benifits from the war on terror? I guess if we take out even one bomber we could be saving hundreds if not thousands of innocent people in the world, not just USA. Would you mind if we added up this cost?


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isthatu
  Jan 22, 08, 14:05  #25

celinski wrote:
Is the USA the only one that benifits from the war on terror?

yes,all the defense contracts are in the USA ,you lot havnt had a single attack since your misguided crusade where as europe has.


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Crow
  Jan 22, 08, 14:08  #26

Who would win? It`s not serious question

Real question is- Who would survive that war?

So, prevention of this war is imperative. For start i would suggest that NATO stop to expand and to be world policeman. Among else, we need bigger and more serious role of UN


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celinski
  Jan 22, 08, 14:10  #27

isthatu wrote:
you lot havnt had a single attack since your misguided crusade where as europe has.



when all is said and done the USA still will be deeply in the whole. I think I already put what Poland has been given. I cannot say what Britian has recieved.


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Topolski
  Jan 22, 08, 14:12  #28

Like I said I'm not saying America is the only one doing anything. We're not. In fact, I'm not even saying that America is so awesome blah blah.... Every country has faults.

And isthatu. I'm from Florida, not Texas. But, that's irrelevent.


One thing not out of self interest: Somalia.

Or maybe Kosovo.
Or... Us helping the Germans with Hitler. We didn't get anything for that.....which is totally fine, I'm just pointing out we did that and NOT for the betterment of our country...

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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Jan 22, 08, 14:13  #29

Crow wrote:
Real question is- Who would survive that war?

So, prevention of this war is imperative. For start i would suggest that NATO stop to expand and to be world policeman. Among else, we need bigger and more serious role of UN

good grief,I see a flying pig!!!!
I heartily agree with you crow........I must have bumped my head...
celinski wrote:
I cannot say what Britian has recieved.

bus and tube bombings.

Topolski wrote:
One thing not out of self interest: Somalia.

er,and you ran with tails between legs after losing one and a half squads of troops.....
Topolski wrote:
Or maybe Kosovo.

where as if you had bothered to turn up in the balkans 5 years earlier like the rest of us a real difference may have been made and significant lives saved.
Topolski wrote:
Or... Us helping the Germans with Hitler.

well,yes,you did help the germans with hitler,helped him into power then traded with him right up untill he declared war on you on 11 dec 1941,,2 and a half years later than the rest of us had been fighting him.
Topolski wrote:
We didn't get anything for that.....which is totally fine, I'm just pointing out we did that and NOT for the betterment of our country...

yes you did,you got a crippled econamy out of depression then like parasites you got overseas territories from those nations that had been fighting fascism for years.


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Topolski
  Jan 22, 08, 14:18  #30

isthatu wrote:
yes,all the defense contracts are in the USA


Not.

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