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southern
Edited by: southern  Feb 5, 08, 07:56  #331

ConstantineK wrote:
Do you remember Don Justiniany who fought together with Constantine XII?


Yes,he was from Geneva.The Genovese helped Byzantine opposite to Venice which had interests in ottoman rule.Actually Justiniani was born on the island Chios which belonged to Genova at the moment,so I am not sure if he can be considered Genovese or Greek.
It is like Colombus who was also born on Chios,spoke greek,immigrated to Spain from Geneva and later discovered America.

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ConstantineK
  Feb 5, 08, 08:01  #332

southern wrote:
if he can be considered Genovese or greek.
It is like Colombus who was also born on Chios,spoke greek and later discovered America.


But he was so called "Latinyanin", well and Byzanine empire before the final fall wasn't the same in the sense of religious unity, as in time of Basill II.

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southern
Edited by: southern  Feb 5, 08, 08:13  #333

ConstantineK wrote:


But he was so called "Latinyanin", well and Byzanine empire before the final fall wasn't the same in the sense of religious unity, as in time of Basill II.


Of course,between 1204-1453 many islands of Greece and a part of Peloponese had become catholic due to intensive pressure from Genovese and Venecians.In Cyclades(Mykonos,Santorini,Ios,Naxos) many have remained catholic.
There were also mixed marriages between Latins and Greeks but the folk never liked them or catholicism.Actually there was a big battle between orthodox and catholic church and the Pope promised a crusade to throw Ottomans out under the agreement that the two churches unite and Byzantine turns to catholicism.This agreement by Byzantine emperor in 1402 was never accepted by church or folk.

Basil 2 is called the Bulgaroctone because his troops killed a lot of Bulgarians during many wars.Basil 1 was called the Macedon,he was a miracle of physical strength,was born absolutely unknown in a village of northern Greece and came to the throne after he strangulated with his hands Mikhail,the emperor who took him as bodyguard admiring his physical strength.

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ConstantineK
Edited by: ConstantineK  Feb 5, 08, 08:26  #334

southern wrote:
agreement that the two churches unite and Byzantine turns to catholicism.This agreement by Byzantine emperor in 1402 was never accepted by church or folk.


Well, but Russians in the same time rejected all unions with popes, including Frorentian union

southern wrote:
Basil 2 is called the Bulgaroctone because his troops killed a lot of Bulgarians during a long war.


Do you feel any abhorrence toward Westerners who took out his corpse from the coffin and sticked him a bagpipe in 1204? His corpse called for revenge over 50 years being on the naked ground. You should!

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southern
Edited by: southern  Feb 5, 08, 08:36  #335

ConstantineK wrote:
Do you feel any abhorrence toward Westerners who took out his corpse from the coffin and sticked him a bagpipe in 1204?


The Westerners did worse things than this in 1204.They took all the thesaurus,the gold,the sculptures,the paintings out of Constantinupol and destroyed churches and monuments.They took even the horses sculptures from the ippodromion and placed them in St.Marcus in Venice!
These crusaders behaved more like animals,turned the royal palace to stallion and walked all over drunk,raping women and stealing everything they could.

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ConstantineK
  Feb 5, 08, 08:40  #336

southern wrote:
ConstantineK wrote:
Do you feel any abhorrence toward Westerners who took out his corpse from the coffin and sticked him a bagpipe in 1204?


The Westerners did worse things than this in 1204.They took all the thesaurus,the gold,the sculptures,the paintings out of Constantinupol and destroyed churches and monuments.They took even the horses sculptures from the ippodromion and placed them in St.Marcus in Venice!
These crusaders behaved more like animals,absolute lack of respect and culture and crusade against christian folk.


Sooooooo, I suppose you hate them still ;-)))

BTW, when I was in St. Sophia I spited upon the tomb of Henrico Dandolo...

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southern
Edited by: southern  Feb 5, 08, 08:43  #337

ConstantineK wrote:
Sooooooo, I suppose you hate them still ;-)))


Yes,there is not much respect towards French and Italians.

ConstantineK wrote:
BTW, when I was in St. Sophia I spited upon the tomb of Henrico Dandolo...


Yes,these Venecian doges were really evil.Exactly like Macchiavelli describes them.

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ConstantineK
  Feb 6, 08, 03:28  #338

southern wrote:
ConstantineK wrote:
Sooooooo, I suppose you hate them still ;-)))


Yes,there is not much respect towards French and Italians.


Kill them, kill them, kill them all !!!!!

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paczka
  Feb 6, 08, 13:56  #339

OMG so much history!!! My little brain is going to burst... Someone kill me.... Kill me!! Kill me!!! :D

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Crow
  Feb 6, 08, 16:41  #340

hey people, see how Norway reacted after Russia and Serbia declared closer cooperation in the sphere of defense...

Serbia, Norway boost military ties

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&dd=06 &nav_id=47524

6 February 2008 | 18:42 | Source: B92, Tanjug

BELGRADE -- The Serbian Ministry of Defense today signed an agreement on continued military cooperation with Norway.


Claver, that Norway

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ConstantineK
  Feb 7, 08, 00:05  #341

paczka wrote:
OMG so much history!!! My little brain is going to burst... Someone kill me.... Kill me!! Kill me!!! :D


What is your origin? May be I can help you? Sure I can kill you if you are from western europe

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Feb 10, 08, 20:21  #342

lmfao, that last post is so wrong... wrong but hilarious.. : )

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Filios1
  Feb 10, 08, 20:27  #343

ConstantineK wrote:
What is your origin? May be I can help you? Sure I can kill you if you are from western europe


Crazy Ruskies..

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Krazy Kaju
  Feb 10, 08, 20:33  #344

Who would win a fight of idiocy between you and Lepper?

I call a tie.

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Filios1
  Feb 10, 08, 20:36  #345

Krazy Kaju wrote:
Who would win a fight of idiocy between you and Lepper?


No Giertych :P?

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ConstantineK
  Feb 11, 08, 03:22  #346

Filios1 wrote:
ConstantineK wrote:
What is your origin? May be I can help you? Sure I can kill you if you are from western europe
Crazy Ruskies..


stupid, extra-serious halfblooded (Poles/Greek) boy.

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Filios1
  Feb 11, 08, 08:41  #347

ConstantineK wrote:
extra-serious halfblooded (Poles/Greek) boy.


You are a sick man, Constantine. Very, very sick.

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ConstantineK
  Feb 12, 08, 07:53  #348

Filios1 wrote:
ConstantineK wrote:
extra-serious halfblooded (Poles/Greek) boy.
You are a sick man, Constantine. Very, very sick.


Symptoms?

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Dublinjohn
  Feb 12, 08, 08:50  #349

You have it all wrong, I will let you in on a secret, it is too late for you now anyway. The Irish are taking over the world. How? you ask, with Irish bars, yes the cunning use of the legal drug in copious amounts is being brought to a city near you.
And what will we do with the world, well for starters we'll have a pint (or half litre) , we are going to spend all your national defense budget on hospitals, education and renovation of Irish bars. We will impose a strict one drink minimum for drivers. Ever noticed that drunks don't get as injured as the sober drivers in road accidents.
So don't worry about E.U. vs Russia, you'll all be Irish in the end .

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noimmigration
  Feb 12, 08, 09:12  #350

eu vs russia, it would be britain, germany, france and italy who would be doing all the fighting

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Dublinjohn
  Feb 12, 08, 09:16  #351

noimmigration wrote:
it would be britain, germany, france and italy who would be doing all the fighting

I agree, the Russians would not have anyone to fight because britain, germany, france and italy would be at each others throats...LOL

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noimmigration
Edited by: Moderator  Feb 12, 08, 10:15  #352

Dublinjohn wrote:
I agree, the Russians would not have anyone to fight because britain, germany, france and italy would be at each others


shut up before we set the black and tans on you, you spud picker



You've been warned numerous times about name calling.

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Dublinjohn
  Feb 12, 08, 10:20  #353

noimmigration wrote:
shut up before we set the black and tans on you,

Unfortunately you are like that. Anyway you took the time to reply. spelling wasn't great but you do try.
I wrote this slowly because I know you can not read fast

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Kilkline
  Feb 12, 08, 10:31  #354

noimmigration wrote:
eu vs russia, it would be britain, germany, france and italy who would be doing all the fighting


France and Italy?

We're f*cked.

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Crow
  Feb 12, 08, 12:16  #355

EU? What EU?

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Filios1
  Feb 12, 08, 12:21  #356

Yes.. good question, Crow : )

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paczka
  Feb 12, 08, 15:28  #357

Kilkline wrote:
France and Italy?

We're f*cked.

Kinda reminds me of the anecdote-

Ideal world is when you have English house, Russian(substitute Polish here) wife, Chinese food and American salary. American wife, Chinese house, American wife and a Russian salary is a nightmare!

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ConstantineK
Edited by: ConstantineK  Feb 13, 08, 00:42  #358

Dublinjohn wrote:
You have it all wrong, I will let you in on a secret, it is too late for you now anyway. The Irish are taking over the world. How? you ask, with Irish bars, yes the cunning use of the legal drug in copious amounts is being brought to a city near you.


I am totally disagree with you, your country is so small, that our presidents usually preffer to oversleep it, even during official visits.... ;-) Do you remember?

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Feb 13, 08, 01:13  #359

Dublinjohn was just joking.....at least I hope...no one can honestly be serious with such a comment as that....

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ConstantineK
  Feb 13, 08, 01:50  #360

matthias wrote:
Dublinjohn was just joking.....at least I hope...no one can honestly be serious with such a comment as that....


As it is said in Russia, "In each joke, there is a part of joke"

Relax, i am joking too

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