EU vs Russia war - who would win?

vvv agreed vvv
peace.

Bulgaria - for Russia
Greece - for Russia
Serbia - for Russia
Germany - for Russia
Ciprus - for Russia
Romania - for Russia

France - too sly to war
Spain/Portuguise - too weak to war
GB - too selfconcerned
Italy - too airy for war

and so on, sorry if somebody was fogotten

Against Russia:
Poland

heheh ConstantineK ...

if you really want it ;-)

USA China Japan EU ... all against Russia after victory sharing your mineral resources (like 10 years ago) ;-)

I think this scenario is what your TV shows you ;) (Poles know what you have in your minds)
and later we see your politicans talking about nuclear war ;)

don't watch your TV ;)



but it is only theoretical divagation again ;)

Slavs are Slavs

i gave you hypothetical answer on hypothetical question- EU vs Russia war - who would win?

to be clear

If Russia is aggressor, you won`t see that other Slavs advance together with Russians and devastate western part of Europe. Even more, you can expect that Russian has many problems `traveling` via other Slavs to reach western parts of Europe. On the other side, ask great majority of Poles (ask Czechs, too) how would they react in case that some EU/German divisions enter Russia and start to devastate Russian villages, towns and infrastructure. Let`s just say, German, Franch, British... transports would need to count on `some problems` on their way to Russia.

All in all, if EU attack Russia first, Russians won`t be alone. Believe it to Serb.


Now, you can see why your comment in case with `all participated` wasn`t just a precise


i don`t believe so

seriously

Russia will never attack EU.Russia needs EU to pay for its oil.

Ok. So how will you discuss this inteligently?



Ah! I see, name calling!



Wasn't that something that you used to have in America? But the Patriot Act took care of that, right?



Like in 1939? Wait a miniute.....they didn't come. Why was that? Oh yeh, there's no oil in Germany. So what happened? Oh that's right. Germany declared war on America in december 1941. Who was fighting Nazi Germany on their own for two years??? Oh yeh. Britain!



So when have we ever RELIED on America?



So do we!



Oh look. You contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. How many nuclear weapons do you think it will take to make the whole area un-livable for 4.5 billion years?



Again I ask. When/where was Americas help for Poland in ww2?



Germany invades Poland September 1st 1939. Great Britain/France declare war on Germany September 3rd. Again I ask. When/where was America? Oh yeh, that's right, they didn't declare war on Germany, right?



Poland doesn't need a big army. It's got the EU! the money would be better spent improving the very poor health service and investing in the education system.



No you don't!



Sorry Seanus. I was trying to keep everybody else out of this. But I can't let this one go. On the same argument that you've used your going to get a LOT of people who DON'T want to be in the army and will therfore be lousey soldiers. A professional army like the British army are always going to be better because you only have soldiers who WANT to be there!



I'm only quoting this because you didn't edit HA HA...



So your saying that the EU CAN protect Poland now?



If "nukes" are involved, then there won't be a "winner". So I guess that that means the EU CAN protect Poland without the help of America!



Like they did in '39....Oh that's right! No oil, so you didn't come to help. Did you?

Europeans cant even to build their own their "state". I think that EU is just an imaginary fiction. This conglomerat just the same old and well known for us states.

I like the byzantine terms.

Greek, to be correct. Do not provoke me! I can conversate about Byzantine Empire for hours!!!

Let me put it this way - if I was taking bets on who would win a war like this, you would have to lay $10 to win $1 if you were going to bet on Russia to win. EU would've paid 10 to 1 adds.
EU are nothing but a bunch of pussies, they have no chance to win any wars, especially against a bully and a warmonger like Russia.

this is controversial to me and can be problem for Serbian public in general

Germany is deeply involved in actions against Serbs on the Balkan. Lusatian situation, i won`t even comment. German pressure on Slavic West and South is traditional, from time to time they even manage to endanger Slavic East.

How can Serbs rely on Russia if Russia collaborate with Germany? Germany should be blocked to interfere in Slavic interests, stop to germanize Slavs.

I`m afraid that Russian-German collaboration on the long run can harm Russian-Serbian relations. BDW, its not pleasant to Serbs when we see destine of Poles between Germany and Russia. To underline- while i understand German intentions, i am deeply confused with Russian deals with them against Poland. Following that logic- Serbia can come on `menu`, same as Poland.

Can you please enlighten me, ConstantineK? What`s all that game?

It's not Russia who has been actively involved NONE STOP in one war or another since Korea in the 1950's! It's the USA! so the term "the pot calling the kettle black" springs to mind.

If Russia was to attack Poland. America wouldn't get involved. There's no oil in Poland!

Right. You hate the USA. But what does it have to do with the subject "EU vs Russia war - who would win?"

Nothing. Some people just like to point out America's flaws...Forgetting that every country has them. I'd like to point out that even though America is consistantly involved in something it's not always some we initiated or something that was our problem, just assisting where needed/asked/wanted.

And as previously stated :) .... EU would probably win.

No I just don't like "bullies". And that is what USA is.

Yes you are wrong here, USA would be on Russia door step in a heartbeat. Why do you think Russia is freaking out about USA anti missile defense.



No proble I wish they were bullies at the end of WW2, if Russia respects Polands independence there won't be an issue.

How so?
My opinion is obviously a little bias... but, I'm just curious to know your theory. :)

And what gives you that impression celinski? When problems started in the Balkins America had to be dragged kicking and screaming because it was a "European" problem.



VIetnam: Cuba: Iraq: would you like me to add to the list?

Bureaucrats don't fight, they just steal.

Following what I read and see of the relationship between Poland and the USA.

U have a good point hairball. I was just doing a logistics operation that u could get good soldiers through sheer numbers but many don't want to join. Conscription has no place in the days of democracy. I'd be furious if I had to live under it. No damn fool is gonna tell me that I have to fight if I'm a pacifist. There are so many other worthwhile pursuits in life than shooting at things. I wouldn't fight for situations that I didn't cause, even more so when greedy politicians brought it about. Fook them, I'd rather go to prison than have my self-conferred right of pacifism taken away. I therefore revise my posting above.

Hairball your clearly an idiot you need to read all the posts clearly. When did britain rely on america they been asking for american help for 2 years before america finally joined. oh yeah these no freedom of speech in america. lol read up on the patriot act what it really means. you are the most illogical and unreasonable person I have met on this forum. you simply lie or embelish.

More and more people are rightly saying that nobody would really win this war. A somewhat simple but true quote of Bush's, "It's negative to think about blowing each other up. That's not a positive thought. That's a Cold War thought. That's a thought when people were enemies with each other."

When was the last time you heard a negitive comment from USA , Britian or Poland goverment about Russia?

What day has past without a negitive comment from Russia about, USA, Britian or Poland?

This whole discussion is....unbelievable!

There will never be a fully blown out land war again...maybe some local conflicts but that's about it! And no war EU - Russia...never!

You're absolutely right. The question in the subject was more of a joke, while everybody is taking it seriously now.
The fact is that Russia is on the way back to be a world's super-power again due to the energy crisis, so it would be nice if Europe and the rest of us learn to live with them in peace.

If you go back to the firsts posts, the question was brought up in another question, so it got moved here because of the posts there.

Good point again Celinski, while we may privately suspect Russia of doing some unsavoury things, we don't look for ways to take pops at them. One person does this in America to a high level, and he is Russian (Azerbaijani). None other than Garry Kasparov. He went to the EU to expose Russia. They appreciate his candid judgments but remain cautious. Kasparov had the potential to add fuel to the flames but he accepts that he will have to do it from afar. He did the right thing in not contesting the leadership of Putin. He wasn't allowed to attend the EU-Russia summit and is fighting a battle from the sidelines. He doesn't seem to see the prospect of his assassination by the KGB.

No one would win.

Thanks joe, for your great analysis. Wow so in depth that I now see the light. Please EU doesn't have enough nukes to destroy Russia, but Russia has enough nukes to destroy EU. As we talk about winner we mean who will inflict more damage. Yes both sides will not be winners in the sense your talking about but your just planning games with the question. Its a hypothetical: pretend their is a war declared, pretend that both sides will use full force that they have at their disposal and pretend winner is declared by the one who inflicts the most damage. Now answer the question.