How do Europeans feel about Americans?

But its our mess, and we rather like it

all the learning

that I have known thanks to them


I didnt come here to join an English forum

It will change come August

What happens in August?
My, you are being rather cryptic this evening! :)

I have been spreading the the word here in Chicago,

to all my Polish friends

power to the people!!!!

Ive been telling everybody about PF

just a matter of time.. England is just fly over

good question espana. People have disagreements about this subject because we all see our culture as the prior culture which is obviously crap. Different culture is just different and not lower or higher.

always a point of view not a reality. Everything is relative.

I don't have to, it will happen sooner or later in Poland and other countries too.

well you say countries. You're not a country. How do you know if the majority of people of your country is as conservative as you? You don't know every Danish and/or every Polish person either.

so are you Danish or Polish? No need to answer.

Yes it is. Try imagine, you go to a pub and you meet nice people and you guys start talking about something you've never experienced before in your life, what do you think, how long you can cover it up with your "charm" before you get spotted and you make yourself look like an ignorant? Depends on the company you associate with but in a cases I know, it wouldn't take longer than few minutes. I suggest, you start working on your credibility because people that spread this word of mouth crap usually don't last long among people that want to have a nice and sensible conversation.

thank you :-)

another great comment

In some cases it's politics which is sad enough. Many people like this Mr. J here just talking worthless word of mouth and media orientated bull.... and that's even much worse.

well observed. Hm, why is it so? Not a question, it's obvious we European have to learn alot from the Americans in this case.

Yeah but you know what I mean Pat!........They don't have the long history Europe has!......Why else does everyone in Europe hate each other?....The Brits hate the French...Poles hate the Russians and Germans.....The french and Germans hate everyone etc etc etc at some stage in our histories we have all ended up fighting each other.....France and Germany's dreams of a united Europe will never work in my opinion, because Europe is just a collection of small squabbling countries. The EU can't even set a european budget properly or anything else!!.....Nothing but arguments and compromises....How could we be expected to stand up to Russian in the future or deal with another crisis? Anyone who really thinks Europe can go it alone without America is living in cuckoo land!!....but only my opinion!!

In regards to history and the alleged lack of in the United States, I think it's rather unfair to expect a nation to get more than 250 years of history in 250 years. In those 250 years, the achievements have been remarkable.

very remarkable

Thats because not everyone wants to go into the direction of France and Germany and create a United States of Europe. The EU is a political and economic union not a federal or military one.

They profited greatly that people who were actively searching for a better life took the pains to back their bags and to move their asses...also the US profited from coming out as victors from WWII whereas all rivals (even allied ones) lay bancrupted and destroyed (that was actually the start for the US as super power not before)...
Their record is not as clean as some might think with race laws till the sixties and such!

But now the appeal is slowly vanishing, the US get's crowded, immigrants from all over the world ("Give us your poor...." etc) are not so enthusiastically greeted anymore, religious conflicts coming up.
Not to mention that no country has a bigger percentual part of his people behind jails...
No, this country has his flaws and warts like every one of Europes and the time as big melting pot is also over I think.
We will see much more cultural and religious tension in the future...especially when the population increasingly becomes more and more latinized....

I prefer Europe! :)
We are on the move to leave our main problems behind and are a rising super power....
(It won't be easy I grant you that but we will make it)

There are things I admire about the US (free speech one of them) and some I detest (weapons craziness for example)...in many ways I prefer the european view point so I think a mix would be good...

:)



But we made it, didn' we?
Don't forget that France and Germany were "hereditary" enemies for centuries with the Brits trying to tilting the balance everytime to their advantage....but together they did build something nice...
Now squabbles between Brits, Frenchies and Krauts are confined to the football fields....
And Poland will join us sometime in the future....I'm sure! :)
(And who knows...maybe the Russians will want to join us too?)

So....you see...even longtime squabbles can be overcome (not forgotten), but not important anymore for a common present and future!
It can be done!!! :)

I'm laughing at you all the time...;) :D

That's ok babe, we are not in denial, we just don't care if you laugh at us.....we are probably laughing with you half the time.....

Actually, I know from first hand experience that we all can have a sense of humor....it's just that we don't understand each others humor at times......it's the cultural difference and that is what makes life so wonderful! :)

You seem to forget that the only reason that you and your country exists after being beat up by the end of the WWII is getting help from the USA so no need to be so ungrateful with your thoughtless comments.

I totally agree, squabbles passed from generation to generation.




Good job Justyna! :) sry Bboy



As well as each other!
When I used to waitress for a living a couple of decades ago in NY, we had two german waitresses (it was a German Rest.) There was a french couple coming in every saturday, and when the german girl went to their table, they went to the hostess to ask for another waitress. It was very cruel on their part, but it showed how deep a hatred can be. They brought it with them to The US. Fortunately, they are (were) the exception. Guess, who ended up waiting on them...and they became my "steadies", they were cheap tough, never left 20% tip... :(

However, I'm friends with the two Germen's until today!

Thoughtless comments?
Which of my comments was thoughtless???

Oh and just some food for thoughts (just try it), had the US not meddled in the inner european affair called WWI on the side of GB it is possible that Germany would have won or at least it could have come to a truce....meaning no Treaty of Versaillles, no Hitler, no Holocaust....
Just think about that!

Crap!
Surely there are individuals who can't stand each other but the times that our whole peoples detested each other are over...welcome in the new millenium!

Maybe YOU can tell me what was wrong with my comments???
Any factual faults???

Im not european but I like Americans my halfbros american in oklahoma I wanna go say hey sometime soon.

BB, there is nothing wrong with your post. You are exercising your freedom of speech, no insults in it. I admire you optimism, and I hope for Europe's sake, as well as the world's, people will bury the hatchets and work with each other, without demeaning other races, ethnicities, cultures...whatever.

Yes, America still has some ongoing issues, ghosts from the past, new ones popping up here and there, but it dealt with it then and it will now (i.e. immigration). As for full jails and love of weapons...?
Freedom is never free.

Now I'm relieved! :)

It must be possible to acknowledge problems without becoming an enemy!

Europe is facing tremendous challenges if wants to rival the US as an economic power. First and foremost, in my opinion, is very low birthrate, combined with an aging popluation. Europe will need people in the very near term. These people will almost certainly come from Asia and Africa. It will be interesting to see how European nations maintain their traditions in the face of immigration from non-European nations.
Meanwhile, the United States has experience with this issue ( non European immigration ), and Americans are gaining experience daily. By and large, citizens born in this nation of immigrants, while they certainly retain ties to the old country, view themselves as Americans. It's one of the things that makes this country great.

The current low birth rate in ALL developed industrialized nations is a sociological and not a biological problem and as such solvable.
Firstly all developing nations who right now have higher birth rates because of their still traditional family structure will also come to our point of development, sooner or later.
Secondly most of our countries have already acknowledged this problem and begun to act. In Germany for example new laws were already passed to support families with children better and even single parents with children, more places in kindergartens etc....
The point is not shrinking populations since that is not a bad thing at all. Fewer children means often also that those are more cherished and supported and have better possibilities in life.
Also Germany shows that always better, more complicated, more intelligent machines do the work of even more people.
Big populations are not needed to have a highly successful and productive society!
The problem starts when the youth has to care for to many old people....when the balance is disrupted, THAT is the real problem!
And how I said our countries begin to acknowledge this problem.

I always think that the rumour of "Eurabia" is a pet of anti-european Americans.
In Germany we have a muslim count of around 3, 4 %....not about to taken over by immigrants, aren't we? :)

And for the challenge...some stuff to read:

theglobalist.com/DBWeb/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=4464