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 Oct 9, 10, 19:47    #1
Hello everyone!

I'm a 23 year old female from Canada, with a Class 5 Driver's License (a general license to drive cars with more than one person with you)... and am wondering if I am allowed to drive in Poland with it, or am I supposed to obtain an 'International License'?

Any input would be much appreciated, thanks :)

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Edited by: 1jola  Oct 9, 10, 20:16    #2
You cannot drive here on a Canadian license, but only on EU member's state. Get an International one.

Here is what our Police writes on their website in FAQs:

Czy mogę kierować pojazdem w Polsce posiadając kanadyjskie prawo jazdy?

Kanada nie była stroną Konwencji o ruchu drogowym, sporządzonej w Wiedniu dnia 8 listopada 1968 r ( Dz. U. Nr 5 poz. 40 i 44), dlatego też kanadyjskie krajowe prawo jazdy nie uprawnia Pana do kierowania pojazdem w Polsce.Mając na względzie art. 94 ust. 1 pkt 2 lit.b Ustawy z dnia 20 czerwca 1997r. Prawo o ruchu drogowym (Dz. U. z 2005r Nr 108 poz. 908) może Pan kierować pojazdem w Polsce posiadając międzynarodowe prawo jazdy. Kanada znalazła się bowiem na liście państw, które ratyfikowały postanowienia Konwencji o ruchu drogowym sporządzonych w Genewie dnia 19 września i w Wiedniu dnia 8 listopada 1968r. w kwestii wzoru międzynarodowego prawa jazdy określonego w ww. przepisach.

http://www.policja.pl/palm/pol/167/4373/
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 Oct 9, 10, 20:26    #3
Not sure if you have to be a member of CAA (Canadian Automobile Association). You can apply for an International Driver Permit there. PL is among the signators.
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 Oct 10, 10, 08:51    #4
Driving in Poland? Be brave. Be very brave.
I consider myself as an excellent driver, but I have goose bumps when I'm driven in Poland. I would not dare to sit behind the wheel. It scares me. What if I decide to retire in Poland some day? Should I learn how to drive all over again?
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 Oct 10, 10, 09:23    #5
Eurola:
What if I decide to retire in Poland some day? Should I learn how to drive all over again?


Who needs to drive in Poland?
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 Oct 10, 10, 09:23    #6
Eurola:
I consider myself as an excellent driver

Eurola:
I would not dare to sit behind the wheel.

Clearly, you overestimate your abilities. When someone else besides you and your mom calls you an excellent driver, you'll be good to go.

You might want to practice your drinking and driving technique though just to be on the even playing field.
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 Oct 10, 10, 09:56    #7
anyew:
am I supposed to obtain an 'International License'?

You're supposed to, but the police don't care.
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Edited by: aphrodisiac  Oct 10, 10, 12:04    #8
that means I drive illegally since I still have not renewed the old driving licence and I carry the Canadian one in case I am stopped.
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 Oct 11, 10, 04:44    #9
1jola:
might want to practice your drinking and driving technique though just to be on the even playing field.

Thanks for the advice! :) I think the drinking and driving in Poland is exaggerated. Whenever I am in Poland 'my drivers' are afraid to even have a tiny sip of alcohol. I guess, it is the other drivers one should worry about.

aphrodisiac:
that means I drive illegally since I still have not renewed the old driving licence and I carry the Canadian one in case I am stopped


Are you comfortable driving in Poland?
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 Oct 11, 10, 04:51    #10
anyew:
Can a Canadian Female Drive in Poland??


Nope, only males can drive in Poland .......................just kiddin' ;-)
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 Oct 11, 10, 07:30    #11
Eurola:
Are you comfortable driving in Poland?

well, not really, the roads are pretty narrow, drivers are quite crazy, so I always get stressed when driving and it is not as much fun as it is to drive in North America, when one can actually relax on the highway.
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 Oct 11, 10, 08:34    #12
aphrodisiac wrote:

that means I drive illegally since I still have not renewed the old driving licence and I carry the Canadian one in case I am stopped.

i do the same.

i don't know how it is for canadians, but for Americans, if i understand the laws correctly, you're allowed 3 months?/6 months? to drive using your American DL on a tourist stamp.....otherwise, how else would people visiting be able to rent a car.

one option is that when i drive, i take my passport with me and if i get stopped, i show my passport instead of my KP, assuming i've been in the states recently because i'd have a fresh stamp in it.
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 Oct 11, 10, 09:06    #13
FUZZYWICKETS:
otherwise, how else would people visiting be able to rent a car.

Ponder the meaning of the words International License.
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 Oct 11, 10, 09:27    #14
1jola:
You might want to practice your drinking and driving technique though just to be on the even playing field.


its a myth :)
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 Oct 11, 10, 10:04    #15
FUZZYWICKETS:
i don't know how it is for canadians, but for Americans, if i understand the laws correctly, you're allowed 3 months?/6 months? to drive using your American DL on a tourist stamp.....otherwise, how else would people visiting be able to rent a car.


By carrying an IDP.

In practice, the police don't seem bothered in Poland by the existence of a licence from the USA/Canada - legally, it's not enough, but I think they seem to treat it as being equal to an EU licence. But still, it's not allowed by law - and you always run the risk of running into a police officer who just wants to ruin your day.
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 Oct 11, 10, 10:17    #16
jola1 wrote:

Ponder the meaning of the words International License.

oooohh.....your sarcasm.....so biting, so clever.....

there's a significant reason for this time buffer.

99.999999% of all people living in America/Canada will never live in Europe for over 6 months at a time, and even less are willing to drive when they vacation in europe (especially in countries that drive on "the other side") making an international DL completely useless to just about everyone out there.

like i said, how would anyone visiting be able to rent a car. good luck enforcing a law that requires everyone traveling to europe from the USA/Canada to have an international DL.
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Edited by: delphiandomine  Oct 11, 10, 10:37    #17
FUZZYWICKETS:
there's a significant reason for this time buffer.


What time buffer? It doesn't exist in Polish law. The only foreign licences recognised "as-is" are licences issued by an EU member state. Everyone else needs an IDP (if their country signed the Gevena/Vienna Convention on road traffic - a nice map is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_that_Recognize_Internation al_Driving_Permit.svg).

Of course, if you can point me to anything in Polish law which states that short term visitors, holding non-EU licences from a country which signed one of the conventions can drive without an IDP legally, then I'll eat my words. I don't think you'll be able to though ;)

FUZZYWICKETS:
99.999999% of all people living in America/Canada will never live in Europe for over 6 months at a time, and even less are willing to drive when they vacation in europe (especially in countries that drive on "the other side") making an international DL completely useless to just about everyone out there.


It doesn't matter if it's "useless" or not - the point is that they have to obtain it in order to be regarded as having a valid licence. Poland may not bother to enforce the law, but other countries can and will. No IDP means they don't have a valid licence in other countries - end of story.

FUZZYWICKETS:
like i said, how would anyone visiting be able to rent a car. good luck enforcing a law that requires everyone traveling to europe from the USA/Canada to have an international DL.


Good luck with the arrogance - it's pretty obvious that you've never rented a car in Europe. The IDP is an integral part of the licence if you want to have it recognised abroad - but really, it seems as if you don't even know what an IDP actually is. It's not an "international driving licence" at all.

Anyway, car hire agencies may check, or may not. But if you have an accident in one of their cars, without possessing the required documentation (an IDP) - then good luck!

(gotta love the old "I'm American, the laws don't apply to me")
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 Oct 11, 10, 11:35    #18
1jola:
You might want to practice your drinking and driving technique though just to be on the even playing field.
WTF? Even playing field?!
delphiandomine:
"I'm American, the laws don't apply to me"
- Touche ;)
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Oct 11, 10, 12:07    #19
delphiandomine wrote:

Good luck with the arrogance - it's pretty obvious that you've never rented a car in Europe. The IDP is an integral part of the licence if you want to have it recognised abroad

you know what they say about people who assume. just rented a car last month, no probs. american passport, credit card, done deal.

delphiandomine wrote:

but really, it seems as if you don't even know what an IDP actually is. It's not an "international driving licence" at all.

no, it's a BS permit that takes nothing more than a few passport photos, a short application and 15 bucks to AAA.

delphiandomine wrote:

Anyway, car hire agencies may check, or may not.

which goes to show just how "integral" they really are.

delphiandomine wrote:

(gotta love the old "I'm American, the laws don't apply to me")

the same thought goes through my head with every illegal alien i meet in the USA....
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 Oct 11, 10, 12:32    #20
FUZZYWICKETS:
you know what they say about people who assume. just rented a car last month, no probs. american passport, credit card, done deal.

Indeed, it is a done deal: unless you have an accident while driving without a valid licence. Then you get to find out that your insurance isn't valid and you are on the hook for the full amount of the damages.

FUZZYWICKETS:
the same thought goes through my head with every illegal alien i meet in the USA....

These days pretty much every illegal alien I meet in Poland is a Yank.
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Oct 11, 10, 13:25    #21
Harry wrote:

These days pretty much every illegal alien I meet in Poland is a Yank.

i've only known a few americans in wroclaw and i can honestly say that every one of them had a KP. every one. in any event, sure, they exist here. the difference is, if i may say so, they generally don't stay very long and are few and far between.
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 Oct 11, 10, 14:22    #22
FUZZYWICKETS:
i've only known a few americans in wroclaw and i can honestly say that every one of them had a KP. every one. in any event, sure, they exist here. the difference is, if i may say so, they generally don't stay very long and are few and far between.

Things are different in Warsaw, here most of the Americans who aren't on college programs which take care of their visas for them just do border runs. Why they think that that helps at all is quite beyond me.
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 Oct 12, 10, 02:19    #23
aphrodisiac:
it is not as much fun as it is to drive in North America, when one can actually relax on the highway.


lol. I like the 'relaxing' part. It doesn't mean that you can doze off behind the wheel but the wide open expressways make it a pleasure to drive. I'm sure it will take some adjustment and getting used to the narrow streets and crazy drivers, but you're going to be fine.
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 Oct 12, 10, 07:38    #24
Gee, I rent a car in England all the time and all they ask for is my license which is American of course. It's different for Poland? I wonder, if I'm only going to be there for a week or so which I intend to do probably next summer and rent a car.
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 Oct 12, 10, 07:43    #25
Can females drive?
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Oct 12, 10, 07:54    #26
Chicago Pollock wrote:

Gee, I rent a car in England all the time and all they ask for is my license which is American of course. It's different for Poland? I wonder, if I'm only going to be there for a week or so which I intend to do probably next summer and rent a car.

not every country requires you to have one and as far as i can see, England seems to be one of them.

http://gouk.about.com/od/tripplanning/f/drivingpermit.htm
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 Oct 12, 10, 08:01    #27
FUZZYWICKETS:
not every country requires you to have one and as far as i can see, England seems to be one of them.


$15? Looks like an IDP for me. If it's hassle free. If not I'll take my chances.
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 Oct 12, 10, 08:12    #28
Eurola:
lol. I like the 'relaxing' part. It doesn't mean that you can doze off behind the wheel but the wide open expressways make it a pleasure to drive. I'm sure it will take some adjustment and getting used to the narrow streets and crazy drivers, but you're going to be fine.

well, getting used to it is not the difficult, listening to my father giving me advice at every corner and turn (although he was the one who taught me driving a long time ago) could be a little annoying lol. I am guessing Polish man like to be behind the wheel at all times and if he isn't and there is a woman driving - he needs to say something;)



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