Asian community in Poland

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Sep 27, 07, 18:14 #61

Iskra, what a girl! Alright, I agree that I have been more sarcastic than normal but Iskra, look at yourself, do you realize you are little bit confused?

Quoting: Iskra

Poland is among one of the most intelligent peoples in the world, at least in Europe. Especially in IT and New Communications. Indians are also among one of the most intelligent. Both nations are hard-working and generally do think of education first. So what's the problem, we have a lot of things in common

Based on my humble experience, I do not trust anyone's claim for anything just and noble as long as she still boasts that her nation, race...is the most (or among the most) intelligent. That is the very attitude so easily transformed into racism. Well, you may say you are a cross-race Polish-Indian, thus exempt from racism, but who know lurking deep inside such a proud heart there is not a strong contempt for a certain "lesser" nation, like Belarus or Bangladesh?

I do agree that you should be proud of yourself and your country (thus projecting well the pride into your success in life), but proud to the point of claiming (or wishing?) that your country is the most (or among the most) intelligent, which is the most prized human quality, is simply too 'grandious' to be a 'good girl'! Judging from your posts (I apologize for my assumption), I think rather than sharing an idealistic megalomania of a certain Mr Hitler, you are just a little confused. May be a little time of meditation with good music will cure it.

Anyway, peace?

PAKISTANLOVE

Sep 27, 07, 19:01 #62

[b][/b]hi to all
i just want to add about indians and pakistani people living in uk usa aus and other part of the world
like all asians are hard working people and good for the ecomy dont u think
look at usa uk if there was no asians the countries would be on its knees
and who done all the dirty jobs the brits and usa didnt wanna do asians
so people mix and make the world a better place to live and think no colour or race or cread but live in PEACE
love all you poles
please try not to drink yr self to death lol thanks

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Sep 27, 07, 21:16 #63

Quoting: Tran Anh

contempt for a certain "lesser" nation, like Belarus or Bangladesh

Quoting: Tran Anh

too 'grandious' to be a 'good girl'! Judging from your posts (I apologize for my assumption), I think rather than sharing an idealistic megalomania of a certain Mr Hitler, you are just a little confused. May be a little time of meditation with good music will cure it

You don't even know me, yet you judge me so quickly. I am not cofussed about anything. I know who I am, what I want to achieve and comparing me to Hitler is perhaps a projection of yourself?

I never said any other nation is less of a nation. Perhaps all nations are less and more of a nation in equal quality. Everyone has their own stage of growth and development. Some nations are little bit behind, that doesn't mean they are anything less.

I am nothing of a Hitler. That is very rude of you. And yes, I did meditate and I am fine now. Can I suggest the same for you, it will help you more than it helps me, because you certainly need it more than me. I hope you fine inner peace some day, dear.

Good luck

IskraThreads: 1 Posts: 49 Joined: Sep 14, 07 ♀	Sep 27, 07, 21:27 #64
Quoting: PAKISTANLOVE please try not to drink yr self to death lol thanks Quoting: PAKISTANLOVE people mix and make the world a better place to live Quoting: PAKISTANLOVE love all you poles Thank you for your comment. I agree that mixing is a better place for the world. I always say "Everyone, needs everyone". We all rely on each other in some shape and form. "Indi-Paki bhai-bhai" :)

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 02:07 #65
Quoting: Iskra Quoting: PAKISTANLOVE love all you poles - We love you too - as equals love equals. :)

WSeaJimThreads: 1 Posts: 28 Joined: May 20, 07 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 13:30 #66
re: Just wondering is there an asian community in Poland - "There are scores of Vietnamese in Warszawa. Not guest workers; they're there to stay. I wish they didn't; I wish Poland were Poland, and Europe Europe." Agreed. Europe should remain white...it the ancestral home of causasians...not Asians. With the booming economies in Asia and India, why do they need to migrate to Poland or Europe?

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Sep 29, 07, 18:05 #67

Quoting: WSeaJim

Just wondering is there an asian community in Poland
- "There are scores of Vietnamese in Warszawa. Not guest workers; they're there to stay. I wish they didn't; I wish Poland were Poland, and Europe Europe."

The situation of those VietNamese is very complicated. They, as their numerous kin in Hungary, East Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, Russia, are the vestige of world-wide communism. During the Cold War, the (North before 1975) VietNamese government sent a huge number of workers and students to the 'brotherly' socialist states to earn money and to learn skills (my father, for example, was sent to Rostov university in Russia). Due to the hard atmosphere of the American War and its aftermath (at least 2 more little wars and economic sanction until 1990), many chose not to return. And when Poland, Czech-Slovakia...joined market capitalism and eventually EU, a large amount of exiled VietNamese left Russia (not only for economic reason but also to avoid the increasing xenophobic attitude of new Russia) and entered Polish border (illigally of course). I think generally those people, much different from the traditional VietNamese exiles in Western Europe (who favour arts and intellect) or the one-million-strong-South VietNamese exiles in US (whose only concern is to topple the current VietNamese government as a revenge), are interested solely in economic survival. Their effect on Polish economy, though, is beyond my graps at the moment. But as survivalists, they are impossible to get rid of. So you guys have to live with it.

Europe should remain white...it the ancestral home of causasians...not Asians. With the booming economies in Asia and India, why do they need to migrate to Poland or Europe?

Why Polish economy is booming, but more than 2 million Poles have to leave for the West? Why France has the 6th largest economy in the world, yet there are a huge French community in London, immigrating solely on economic ground? Why are there so many European scientists and artists (coming from fabulously rich countries no less) working in the US? The question is obviously not the colour of your bottom's skin, but simply the basic human desire for never-ending materialistic improvement.

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Edited by: Tran Anh Sep 29, 07, 18:21 #68

Quoting: Iskra

You don't even know me, yet you judge me so quickly. I am not cofussed about anything. I know who I am, what I want to achieve and comparing me to Hitler is perhaps a projection of yourself?

I don't know you, it is true, but as I have said that thanks to my experience I am prone to suspect any self-claimed liberal humanist who professed loudly their love for humankind yet at the same time boast their nation as the best in the world. That is confusion and it is not long when those so-called idealists turn out to downright despicable ethno-centrists (or racists for simplicity's sake).
Of course, I have never compared you with Herr Hitler (I must have been a much bigger smart-ass to do the comparison since it will entail Wagner and Bruckner!) . I just think you are temporarily a little confused.

But with this gorgeous paragraph:

Quoting: Iskra

Perhaps all nations are less and more of a nation in equal quality. Everyone has their own stage of growth and development. Some nations are little bit behind, that doesn't mean they are anything less.

you certainly prove that I am simply wrong about you as any dumb-ass should be.
Please keep those lines till the end of your life.
Full respect.

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Oct 3, 07, 09:03 #69

Quoting: WSeaJim

Europe should remain white...it the ancestral home of causasians...not Asians.

Randompal thinks this is the dumbest statement ever made. And it came out of the foaming mouth of Whitey. If Europe is the ancestral home of whites, how come it was OK for Whitey to sail to North and South America, Africa and Asia and colonize those people, and usually by excessive force? Randompal isn't a fan of political correctness (which is boring) - Randompal is all about logic, which is synonymous with "truth."

As Poland's economy improves, it will continue to draw immigrants from poorer countries. That's a fact, and you can't do anything about it. Also, because Poles (caucasians) have been jumping ship for years now (thus leaving hospitals understaffed), they have created a void that will probably have to be filled by foreigners.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 09:05 #70
Quoting: randompal If Europe is the ancestral home of whites, how come it was OK for Whitey to sail to North and South America, Africa and Asia and colonize those people, and usually by excessive force? Absolutely true ;)

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Edited by: Puzzler Oct 3, 07, 18:06 #71

Quoting: randompal

Randompal thinks this is the dumbest statement ever made. And it came out of the foaming mouth of Whitey.

- Hmm, 'Whitey' is a very racist derogatory term, isn't it? E.g. it's often used - with total impunity - by Black racists and fascists. But this time it seems to be coming from the foaming hatefully yap of a White. Is there anything dumber and morally more abhorrent than one's slamming one's own people and thus undermining one's own existence? Are you suicidal, pal? If so, why don't you do it on your own and gracefully - without all those hateful utterances?

Quoting: randompal

As Poland's economy improves, it will continue to draw immigrants from poorer countries.

- You seem to speak on behalf of all the Poles, which is both false and dumb. Speak for yourself, and invite all those 'immigrants' to your own house and property (if you've got any) and give it away to them, if you want to. What right a hater of Poles like you have to speak on behalf of them?

Quoting: randompal

That's a fact, and you can't do anything about it.

- Why can't we (this doesn't include you) do anything about it? - It's enough not to let them in. And we'll have any right to do that - look how we've been recently treated in UK by more and more natives and also Third World immigrants living there. They all seem to tell us: 'Get the hell out of UK!' How many of us have been killed abroad for merely toiling on crappy jobs for crappy pay? And we can't work - work, I say, not to speak settle - in most of the EU countries, even though we're seemingly EU member, whereas crowds from the Third World can.

But perhaps you're too dumb to get what I'm talking about?

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Edited by: Puzzler Oct 3, 07, 18:12 #72
Quoting: Polson Absolutely true ;) - What is so 'absolutely true'? So if you condemn 'Whitey' for 'colonizng' all those poor victims from South America, Africa and Asia, you must surely condemn South Americans, Africans and Asians for their attempts today at 'colonizing' Europe? If you don't condemn them, aren't you racist, pal?

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Oct 3, 07, 18:17 #73

Quoting: Puzzler

What is so 'absolutely true'?

So if you condemn 'Whitey' for 'colonizng' all those poor victims from South America, Africa and Asia, you must surely condemn South Americans, Africans and Asians for their attempts today at colonizing Europe? If you don't condemn them, aren't you racist, pal?

No, i just think that today Europe can't complain about the number of immigrants. It's Europe that spread its culture, languages, even religion throughout the world. And it's Europeans first who came to Africa, Asia, America, etc. (colonization), so why people of these continents could not do the same, and come to Europe ? Plus, Europe needs these immigrants workers.

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Edited by: Puzzler Oct 3, 07, 18:29 #74

Quoting: Polson

No, i just think that today Europe can't complain about the number of immigrants. It's Europe that spread its culture, languages, even religion throughout the world. And it's Europeans first who came to Africa, Asia, America, etc. (colonization), so why people of these continents could not do the same, and come to Europe ?

- In other words, colonization for colonization? Are you in favour of historical vendettas? If yes, then do you agree that in the future Europeans will have the right to get even with their today colonisers?

Quoting: Polson

Plus, Europe needs these immigrants workers.

- Really? You mean 'Europe' needs South American, African, and Asian 'immigrant workers'? But why, why? Can't 'Europe' have workers from Poland and other former commie bloc countries? Not immigrants, just temporary guest workers, such as most Poles in UK and elsewhere. Why e.g. France hasn't opened its job market for Poles and other new EU members, but it's been long open for crowds from the Third World? Why Polish guest workers are in many cases treated like slaves in the UK? Why so much hatred against them? You know, Polson, if you and other French want the Third World crowds to inundate France, then it's your business. I don't want to live in such 'Europe.' I know that masses of Poles (in Poland) share my sentiment.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 18:48 #75
Ok, Puzzler, so let's those poor people die away, they are not European... O_O

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 18:49 #76
Europe is a dream for some, some die while trying to make it real.

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Oct 3, 07, 18:53 #77

By the way, Polson, Europeans 'colonizing' lands outside Europe brought in lots of goodies to those lands. I dare think without Europeans those goodies wouldn't have been there today. And the 'colonized' 'victims' utilise those goodies with great zeal. If the Euro colonization has allegedly been so bad, if the aforementioned goodies are allegedly so bad, then shouldn't the goodies be taken away by Europeans? If not, well, haven't the goodies long paid abundantly for any possible wrongdoings and abuses?
:)

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 18:56 #78
Quoting: Puzzler Europeans 'colonizing' lands outside Europe brought in lots of goodies to those lands ...lots of goodies...and what about slavery, torture, bad treatments, wars, deads, etc. Not only "goodies", dude, unfortunately...but Poland is not concerned ;)

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Edited by: Puzzler Oct 3, 07, 18:57 #79

Quoting: Polson

Ok, Puzzler, so let's those poor people die away, they are not European... O_O

- Why 'die away,' mate? If a guy from outside of EU doesn't immigrate to EU, he'll necessarily die away?

And do you prefer to 'die away' yourself ...?

Quoting: Polson

Europe is a dream for some, some die while trying to make the dream real

- You mean it's Poles and other 'inferior' Europeans who should die to make the dream come true?

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Edited by: Puzzler Oct 3, 07, 19:02 #80

Quoting: Polson

and what about slavery, torture, bad treatments, wars, deads, etc.

- There was also White slavery. (While living in America, I read one 'African American' female 'scholar' bragging that in the past it was Africans who enslaved 'East Europeans.' I don't know if she didn't lie, though. :)) And many tribes e.g. in both Americas warred with each other, tortured each other in ways Europeans didn't even dream of, etc.

So...?

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Oct 3, 07, 19:05 #81

O_o what are we talking about... :p

I'm talking about Africans, Asians and South Americans that die everyday (no food, no water, diseases, conflicts, etc.) If you were them, wouldn't you dream of the cool and peace lands of Europe ?

Quoting: Puzzler

You mean it's Poles and other 'inferior' Europeans who should die to make the dream real?

I'm still talking about Africans, Asians and South Americans, that die while trying to reach the European continents by themselves, their last chance to live is taking the risk to die (nice phrase, i'm proud of it ;)
And i don't think there are "inferior Europeans", don't be agressive ;) LoL

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 19:07 #82
Quoting: Puzzler There was also White slavery. We can't compare White slavery and Black slavery. An incredible amount of Black persons died of bad treatments. Cases of white slavery are very rare, i'm even not sure i heard one... ;)

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Oct 3, 07, 19:15 #83

Quoting: Polson

We can't compare White slavery and Black slavery

- Why not? The fact you haven't heard about White slavery doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Quoting: Polson

I'm talking about Africans, Asians and South Americans that die everyday (no food, no water, diseases, conflicts, etc.) If you were them, wouldn't you dream of the cool and peace lands of Europe ?

- I sure would. But if I were allowed into those 'cool and peace lands,' I wouldn't be arrogant and try to grab more rights and privileges than the hosts.

But this is beside the point.

The economical reality in Europe is as it is. Do you think it right and fair to let in Third World crowds instead of fellow Europeans?

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 19:18 #84
Quoting: Polson Europe is a dream for some - It surely is for you, son. You're living in a dream world. Watch out - reality surely will check painfully on you. Unless, of course, you die before that.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 19:20 #85
Everyone should have the same rights, don't you think so ? We're all equal ! ;) Weren't the Blacks in the UK before the Poles...don't know exactly... It's getting late, i gotta go now ;) Good night Puzzler ;)

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 19:21 #86
Quoting: Polson And i don't think there are "inferior Europeans", don't be agressive ;) - I'm not sure about that. Why are you accusing me of being aggressive? Aren't you aggressive in doing so?

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Edited by: Puzzler Oct 3, 07, 19:24 #87
Quoting: Polson Everyone should have the same rights - I wholeheartedly agree with that. Quoting: Polson Weren't the Blacks in the UK before the Poles... - What does it have to do with what we're talking about? Do you suggest I've got anything against Blacks living for many generations anywhere? Why would you think so? Quoting: Polson Good night Puzzler ;) - Good night to you too. :)

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 19:24 #88
Quoting: Puzzler Why are you accusing me of being aggressive? Aren't you aggressive in doing so? Haha ! Okay we're both extremely aggressive ;) Gotta go, dobranoc.

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Oct 3, 07, 19:25 #89
Quoting: Polson Haha ! Okay we're both extremely aggressive ;) - You're a good kid. Dobranoc, sleep tight. :)

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Oct 4, 07, 12:22 #90

Quoting: Puzzler

Speak for yourself, and invite all those 'immigrants' to your own house and property (if you've got any) and give it away to them, if you want to. What right a hater of Poles like you have to speak on behalf of them?

Sounds like someone doesn't understand playful sarcasm - that's a sign of limited imagination and a tad short on intelligence, too bad!

Quoting: Puzzler

Speak for yourself, and invite all those 'immigrants' to your own house and property (if you've got any) and give it away to them, if you want to. What right a hater of Poles like you have to speak on behalf of them?

I'm not speaking for myself, I'm speaking for the basic principles of economic geography. Haul your pathetic ass over to the library and crack open a book, it's right there for all to see. That's coming from a patriot, 100%....except one with a college degree. You probably wouldn't understand.

Quoting: Puzzler

But perhaps you're too dumb to get what I'm talking about?

seriously, kid, what could a snot-nosed punk like you possibly teach me?

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