Cannabis in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram in Poland?

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 08, 16:12 #121
areklech wrote: this is an awful thread, please do not encourage and invite people to commit suicide, drugs are bad for you lol,guess who needs drug education...suicide from Pot...snarf snarf....only coz its dry at the min maybe :) seriously,anyone going to do the newgate two step is going to do it irrespective of maybe having smoked a touch of mother natures finest ...

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Feb 20, 08, 23:51 #122

In California and many other states, people have doctor's papers saying it's legal for them to consume or smoke marijuana, because it's one of the few things that helps with nerve pain. Not much else does, except expensive antiseizure drugs and some antidepressants. I've known many people who cut their $2000 medication bill down dramatically, with the help of medical marijuana - because it works when used correctly.

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Feb 22, 08, 01:55 #123

yah but actually the 215 law is a joke lol. My dad believe it or not helped lobby alongside the grassroots efforts to pass prop 215. They made sure to leave huge gaps in it. It states that u can get a card for any condition the doctor deems that marijuana would b beneficial for. So basically if u want legal buds go get a 215 card. They cost about 100 buxx. Its how i get my weed here actually.

One of my buddies went in and said he couldn't sleep and paid 100 buxx to get one. He's 19 and perfectly healthy. Now he has access to bomby dank anytime we need it!215 is the ****!!! Amsterdam doesn't even have **** on cali weed!! I know ive been there. Its dank but not that gr8! any1 with a good hydro system can gro like they do in amsterdam

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06 ♀	Feb 22, 08, 07:33 #124
dont suppose anyone can sort me tonight in London? :0)

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Edited by: jones101 Feb 22, 08, 08:24 #125

Polish people complaining about Pot...with the amount of booze consumed here...is simply hilarious.

I guess all those people smashing pot bottles and singing and fighting at night are getting to be a problem. All those Pot shops and pubs that serve so much Pot are a disgrace to the country.

People high on weed are easier to deal with than you average sober person.

I think Harry needs a joint...would calm him down a bit. :)

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Feb 23, 08, 03:45 #126

Jones, you have a point; stoned people never robbed a bank.

Rocky, I find it sad that you and your friend are abusing the drug law - it is definitely NO joke, for those whom it was intended for! At least acknowledge that mmj does help people who are in chronic, unremitting pain, 24/7 year round.

I have a friend whom I took to one of those 215 doctors, with his MRIs and doctor records. He has 10 conditions that he's suffered with for almost a decade, and was contemplating suicide to stop the pain, when I mentioned the mmj to him as an option. Even his own mother would rather he be dead than try it because of the propaganda (that's so sick and twisted). So I drove him. The doctor talked with him, and told him that he only needed two of his chronic conditions for a few years, to obtain the license - but with 10, she was shocked he was still alive, and said the program was definitely made for him!

So he's at $20 a week, he's been gaining his life back, and cut his regular drugs way down. Plus it's the FIRST thing he's taken, that has affected the nerve pain! After they figure out which type suits him best, it may go up to $30 a week (for pain free), but it's so nice to see him awake, and actually moving around!! Yes - the mmj actually has him active, seriously. I doubted it too, but from what the doc said, it affects nerve damaged people differently. He said he's starting to feel like he may be able to work a job again, and is vying for hopefully, pain free days.

Just sad people abuse it, but thank g*d people that really need it are being helped, and my friend didn't kill himself from the 9+ out of 10 pain daily. I'm going to see him tomorrow for a bit.

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Feb 23, 08, 20:39 #127

I think its a good thing its a joke! When it becomes ezier and more convenient to access people will be more up front about smoking pot. Showing that many potheads are in prominent and powerful places. I know a DA of a big city who smokes pot all the time. I know 2 doctors who smoke pot a few nurses even a CFO. I know lobbyists who smoke pot and lawyers... the list goes on and on.

Marijuana in time will move out of the reefer madness stage and into the tolerated stage once the baby boomers die off! Stupid baby boomers lol. Their generation has done some very terrible things

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Feb 24, 08, 01:38 #128

Sorry, but I digress; I don't feel it's a joke.

I do feel that it should be completely decriminalized, and treated like alcohol, as a DUI if you are wasted and drive. But otherwise, I've never had issues with wasted people.

Tolerance is needed, and yes; terrible things were done by the baby boomers, but no generation matures without mistakes. Just hope our generations can do it less costly - and stop tossing people into prison for marijuana related incidents.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Feb 24, 08, 02:15 #129
RockyMason wrote: Stupid baby boomers The generation that gave us The Beatles, Bob 'Everybody Must Get Stoned' Dylan, Keith 'I Was the First Rolling Stone to Look Really Old' Richards, et al.

hairballThreads: 34 Posts: 770 Joined: Dec 16, 07 ♂	Feb 25, 08, 11:32 #130
News from today! uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080225/ten-bbc-defends-presenter-taking-d rugs-5a7c575_1.html - BBC defends presenter taking drugs

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 25, 08, 11:45 #131
They really need to legalize. This drug war costs us 4 billion a year in the USA alone on pot! Thats not even including catching the criminals just prosecuting and incarcerating!

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Feb 25, 08, 12:44 #132

One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small.
And the ones that mother gives you, don't do anything at all.
Call Alice...when she's ten feet tall!

Rocky, I do agree with legalization. That's just money better spent elsewhere, say on violent crimes, such as murder, and helping the poor! America looks bad to other countries, because we have people, and families living on the streets out here. Heck, near my Aunt, there's an entire tent city of those who were foreclosed out of their homes!

A country is judged by how they treat their poorest; we suck at that.

DaveyThreads: 17 Posts: 436 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Feb 25, 08, 12:48 #133
JuliePotocka wrote: legalization I don't think it'll happen for the USA, maybe Canada though.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06 ♂	Feb 25, 08, 12:49 #134
JuliePotocka wrote: America looks bad to other countries, because we have people, and families living on the streets out here thats one of the reasons so few buy the 'we're helping the needy of the world' line america spins about so many of its global 'interventions' check out your own backyard before you check out someone elses

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 25, 08, 12:52 #135
Davey wrote: I don't think it'll happen for the USA, maybe Canada though. well there is Ak and Cali.. mj is decrimilized in Canada

DaveyThreads: 17 Posts: 436 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Feb 25, 08, 12:56 #136
plk123 wrote: mj is decrimilized in Canada Well it was proposed to decriminalize up to 15 grams but it never passed. I think the law right now is up to 5 grams you only get a small fine.

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Feb 25, 08, 13:30 #137

Cali is ezee 2 u can have up to an ounce or 28 grams statewide and only get a 100 dollar fine. In some counties however there are more lenient laws with the most lenient being humboldt. If you are caught by the cities or counties police u can be caught with up to 4 ounces and only get a 100 dollar fine! Also in humboldt they usually let u off with a warning if ur just smoking or buying in small amounts!

Ive been caught prolly more than 4 times and so far no fine! They smashed my pipe and poured me weed on the ground and stomped it into the dirt though ='(. Cali is extremely lenient! Once i get a stable well paid non government job im gonna get my 215 card just to completely avoid any problems with the law! Any doctor will give u one for like 100 buxx

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Feb 26, 08, 01:32 #138

Rocky, you are lucky, but also are incorrect. You are fortunate you weren't locked up or fined.

Out in OC and Long Beach, you go to 215 specialist doctors, who want ALL your medical records to look over, including MRIs if available, plus the MRI reports. Normally costs $150, and you are NOT guaranteed the doctor's written suggestion for MMJ. Then, there's the '215 mmj card'.

Guess what?? It isn't regulated, and really doesn't exist as far as I know. Ergo, the doctors print out their own for additional money to their written suggestions.

Because these doctors stick their necks out, they aren't your typical doctors, hell no, Cash only, on the barrel, no insurance.

Put dat in yer pipe and schmoooke it! (joke).

Also, MMJ people are allowed to grow their own plants for personal medicinal use, and have 8 mature plants.

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Feb 26, 08, 01:44 #139

There's a Doc in San Diego they are after right now, as a matter of fact, for being a rubber stamp for a 215 card business. Might even be Rocky's doc. Haven't kept up with it (moved away from SD about 6 months ago) maybe they caught him.
While the state of California won't come after anyone, it is, for better or worse, against Federal law, on those occasions the Feds come looking you are out of luck.
Personally, I don't think Marijuana is harmless (even though part of Mom's family used to grow it) but deregulation does tend to drive prices down, and drug dealers to other lines of work. After all, in the 1920's one could buy cocaine in his or her local drug store, cheap, and nobody was shooting each other over it. Coca Cola, for instance, was GREEN, and you guessed it, had cocaine in it (originally). No wonder it took off.... take away the money, and the criminal activity often subsides.

John P.

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Feb 26, 08, 02:21 #140

It depends on where you live juli like u say it isn't regulated but in some areas a vast majority of docs can and will give u a 215. If its unregulated that would also implly that there is no formal training in a residency for the prescribing of marijuana. John ur a moron lol. Ive never been prescribed a 215!!! LOL i never said i had been. Can't u read silly pole?

"They" are after lol. I doubt anything that bad will happen to the doc they haven't been enforcing that law very well. If they can how come i can go call a # tommorrow and get my medical pot card in a minute lol. its so lenient its really a joke ever heard of a "caregiver"? U can carry marijuana for the sick person(or faker with a 215). U can help em grow and even walk into the clinic with them and make suggestions on wat they should smoke. LOL Im my buddies "caregiver" here. i get all the perks of the medical pot card and i don't have to have my name in a federal database =D.

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Edited by: JohnP Feb 26, 08, 02:28 #141

RockyMason wrote:

Ive never been prescribed a 215!!! LOL i never said i had been. Can't u read silly pole?

Slow down buddy. Never said you were. I said they were after the doc who was giving out the cards. Also, FWIW I'm just as American as you are and am Active Duty for the last 14 years. What have YOU done? As for being called a Pole-I'll take it as a compliment. I'd hate to think you thought I was like you at the moment....
The rest of your post is irrelevant. All the trappings of California law have nothing to do with federal law. If California authorities are around, and you have your "card" you're ok. If federal authorities catch you-even if they are only park rangers (yes, National Parks are federal jurisdiction) your little bag of "legal" marijuana just skipped right over misdemeanor and became a federal offense with mandatory prison time if convicted. While it's possible someone with a serious ailment would be given leniency, you, my friend, would not.
Oh, and if you insist on calling people Morons, at least learn to spell first. You grew up here, presumably, and don't have any excuse for not knowing the language. People would take you more seriously when you called them names....

John P.

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Feb 26, 08, 02:38 #142

=) John its a blog do I really need to impress anyone on here with my composition skills? I kind of just whip it out without regard to error lol. Who cares? Dude wat do u mean I said its okay with the feds? I said ur name goes in a federal databank!

That means u cannot get a government job anywhere! U cannot get a job for the federal state or city government. U c when you get a job they do a backround check and since ur name is in their national medical pot databank it pops up and they won't hire u! Even if you have a legit reason to have one you still cannot get a government job after! Im not sure but im sure cities might make exceptions. However i would rather avoid that being on my record especially b/c i have no reason for one. Hmmm military huh?

Im sorry u got suckered into the miltary man. That must have been tough after u realized u'd sold yourself to them at a lower price than you were worth. Those recruiting bastards suckered in a few of my best buddies. Believe it or not I pulled some strings with my dad to get one of those bastards in a lap of crap. The ****** was buying booze and cigs for kids who would come to recruitment parties. Im not fond of the military. They say the military fights for our freedom but the war in Iraq has taken away many of our freedoms. Habeas corpus cough cough

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Edited by: JohnP Feb 26, 08, 03:05 #143

RockyMason wrote:

Habeas corpus cough cough

You still have it...and the military doesn't do anything against it. We go where you, or the people you elect-send us. Remember that next time you go vote.
Also, do a little homework (outside of your accounting homework) on what laws have actually changed. There are politicians trying to scare you into voting out their opposition (and therefore, *THEM* IN...) by telling people all their rights are going away etc. etc. but if you corner them or look things up-your rights haven't changed a bit. They're arguing whether they can listen to Ahmed Mustafa on the phone in Afghanistan or not, once the lawyers find out he sometimes calls some guy in New Jersey. Enemy troops, even terrorists, have never had habeas corpus rights. You, as a citizen, always have, and still do.
Hope that calms things for you.
If you don't want to serve, don't. If you consider it (there ARE former potheads serving even today with waivers) I suggest instead of talking to a recruiter who is under tremendous pressure to get people to join (careers and even families are ruined over recruiting tours I've heard) call a base and get ahold of someone actually DOING the job you might consider if you join. They'll give you the no BS truth, whether they like it or not, the who spill. You can make a better decision that way even before think about talking to a recruiter. It's something I wish someone would have done for me when I joined. I'm fairly happy what I do now, but I could have STARTED in this job.

good luck.

John P.

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 26, 08, 10:34 #144
Naw lol. I really wouldn't enjoy being owned by uncle sam! I want the freedom of saying "I quit" if i feel that I am being treated unfairly in my occupation. LOL Not only that but the military just doesn't pay enough even when u factor in all of the free allowances. I can make several times what a four star general makes if im successful in accounting.

JuliePotockaThreads: 6 Posts: 208 Joined: Nov 19, 07 ♀	Feb 28, 08, 21:32 #145
John, thank you for your service for this country.

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Edited by: plk123 Feb 28, 08, 21:57 #146

Davey wrote:

Well it was proposed to decriminalize up to 15 grams ....

i thought that was the deal in BC.

JohnP wrote:

habeas corpus rights. You, as a citizen, always have, and still do

maybe it is the soldiering thing that clouds your vision here.. remember padilla? shrubco can just willy nilly call just about anybody an enemy combatant and because they can bypass the courts completely US citizens basically have no habeas corpus.

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Edited by: JuliePotocka Mar 3, 08, 01:51 #147

I am for decriminalization, 100%. Treat it like alcohol intoxication, same rules: can't do it while ON the job, or driving a motorized vehicle (not even a boat).

Like what was said, that would remove the criminal element, and enable the mmj patients to actually be able to reasonably afford their medications. I've personally gone over the reports for the Four Federal MMJ patients, and it's amazing that the ALS patients are still alive and functioning! I've poured over research, and the different cannaboids, the active part, help so many ailments. Like Opiods, we have Cannaboid receptors in our brains. Together, those two drugs can just radically drop Chronic Pain below a 4/10, which is truly phenomenol.

Also, if legalized, people won't be putting Ajax up their noses or smoking horse tranquilizer, and perhaps save lives.

All I can point out, is that Grandma made corn whiskey and vodka during prohibition, and she wasn't a criminal. She had 3 kids, and none ever had a criminal record. Prohibition was wrong - and the War on Drugs is wrong, because the ONLY way to stop Drug trafficking is to: Decriminalize it!

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Mar 3, 08, 11:40 #148

My grandma also had a still at that time. They even had a player piano from the proceeds. Feds destroyed the still. Drug education is working in the schools. Are you thinking eventually curiosity will get to people. Get to the point of why anyone would need to take any drugs at all. Alcohal and cigarettes are not part of this either. Most illegal drugs can not be taken with moderation. Once taken, you are commited. Pot doesn't seem to be as bad though. So I do not have nay feelings againstit . Even though I would never use it . It seems to be more in the comparrison to alcohal.

hairballThreads: 34 Posts: 770 Joined: Dec 16, 07 ♂	Mar 3, 08, 12:09 #149
JuliePotocka wrote: Treat it like alcohol But because it's so cheap and easy to grow, "they" can't collect tax revinue as lots of people will just grow their own!.....Maybe that's why it's been demonised all these years!

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06 ♀	Mar 3, 08, 12:12 #150
hairball wrote: But because it's so cheap and easy to grow, "they" can't collect tax revinue as lots of people will just grow their own!.....Maybe that's why it's been demonised all these years! That's EXACTLY why it's been demonized.....the Govt. is afraid it won't get it's cut of the profits.

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