Car registration in Poland (bought a car from Holland on a temporary license)

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Jan 23, 11, 01:14 #1

Hello,

I am an Indian national with Indian Passport living in Katowice, Poland on work permit and long term visa. I bought a car from Holland with temporary licence plates in my name and would like to register the car in Poland.

Please let me know if i can register the car in Poland in my name and also get insurance. How can i do it, what documents are required and how much will it cost?

Thanks!

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Jan 25, 11, 10:08 #2

Hi,
You can do it if you have everything sorted out. You'll need to visit three gov. offices to finally register your car. Actually four, if you have not registered your address of stay before. The correct order is as follows: You need to check if you are obliged to pay excise tax, then check if you need to pay the VAT and then register the car, once you sort out the tax obligations. The insurance has to have the date not later than the date of registration so do it the same day.

cheers

rdhirThreads: 2 Posts: 4 Joined: Jan 23, 11 ♂	Jan 25, 11, 12:22 #3
Thanks Olaf!

rdhirThreads: 2 Posts: 4 Joined: Jan 23, 11 ♂	Apr 14, 11, 18:01 #4
from where can i check if I am obliged to pay excise and VAT as I am not Polish?

skibumThreads: 13 Posts: 93 Joined: Jan 26, 10 ♂	Apr 14, 11, 21:47 #5
I'm keen to get some info on this too. What tax is payable, is there a sliding scale? Do we need to get a Polish 'MOT' done first?

piancuThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Jan 3, 12 ♂	Edited by: piancu Jan 3, 12, 21:29 #6
Hello everyone. I would like to purchase a car in Poland and keep it registered there. I live in Europe two months of the year. If I rent an apartment for a month in Warsaw and I have an American passport, can I register this car under my name? Thanks, Paul

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Jan 3, 12, 21:46 #7

Simple answer is no. You need a meldunek and a PESEL to register a car; this can be obtained with a passport, but must be updated every three months and needs the landlord's permission. If you are only renting the apartment for a month, no landlord will give you meldunek, and therefore you will not be able to register the car.

Also, without a PESEL you will be unable to get insurance, which is a legal requirement in Poland. The car must be insured constantly, whether it is being driven or not, so you cannot just insure it for the time you are in Poland.

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Jan 4, 12, 09:26 #8

rdhir:

where can i check if I am obliged to pay excise and VAT as I am not Polish?

The source is treasury offices - Urzad Skarbowy for VAT and Urzad Celny for excise tax.

Best you can do is to get an agent who would do all that for you, for not big fee. Why bother yourself.

Richfilth:

but must be updated every three months and needs the landlord's permission.

Not really - foreigners should formalize their stay: registering address is just the first step, then there's registration of stay or residence card (for non-EU citizens). Having one of them will allow you to register address for more than 3 months. No need to go there every 3 months.
And you don't need a permission to register address - you should show rights to your rented (owned) apartment - which is e.g. a rental contract and it's done. There are at least two ways to do it.

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Jan 4, 12, 10:20 #9

Olaf:

Not really - foreigners should formalize their stay: registering address is just the first step, then there's registration of stay or residence card (for non-EU citizens). Having one of them will allow you to register address for more than 3 months. No need to go there every 3 months.

So he has to apply for a residency permit every year (which takes a fair bit of time) and then has to reregister his car every year. Lots of hassle (even if he can get a karta pobytu, I doubt that 'I want to register a car here' is going to be sufficient reason for them to give him one).

Olaf:

And you don't need a permission to register address - you should show rights to your rented (owned) apartment - which is e.g. a rental contract and it's done.

Yes you do need permission: your landlord has to countersign and he also has to prove his right to the property (i.e. the notarial deed from when he purchased it).

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Jan 4, 12, 13:34 #10

Hi Harry;)

To your first comment: Not that much hassle. IF there's a EU citizen then they register their stay and then prolong reg. of address to maximum time and that's all. No need to prolong anything every year.
If not EU citizen, then if visa was necessary then karta pobytu is issued for the same time, it can be longer than a year.
It's more about registered address that matters for the department that registers your car. You can do a lot by writing statements too.
I will give you an example from my experience. Last week I registered my car in a different place than my main registered address. It seems impossible to 4 out of 5 officers that I asked for information before doing so, then I wrote a statement that I live and work in Krakow and therefore I want my car to be registered here, so that I don't have to take days off work and drive very far to my previous department of vehicle registration to do stupid things that could be done over the Internet. I attached this to registration forms and that was all. It took 10 minutes in Krakow office! Sometimes ther is a long waiting line but to save my time and not stand in lines I went there during lunch time. And now I have new KR (something) registration plates. I have to learn my new plate numbers:)

To your second comment:
You are thinking about only one option here. I used the other many times because it doesn't require owners presence and you don't even fill in anything. I meant a registration by youself, and having a proper contract YOU have the rights to the apartment stated in the contract, therefore you can - and should - be registered. I've done it many times actually. There is also on another in which you smartly move the obligation to register from you to local authorities.
Why make it difficult for yourself when there are more simple ways.

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