Cigarettes in Poland (cost, brands). The situation in the UK?

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Mar 17, 10, 04:55 #31
space_rebel: they (the poles) smoke even in trains. that sux. :/ not on the ICs...except in the bathroom....

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Mar 17, 10, 11:00 #32

walesboy:

I willsmoke like a steam trainif they put me to the test ,andi dont even smoke lol.And doumeen if i stop at germany before uk or just like fly over germany ?

If you enter German territory with more than 800 cigarettes, you'll lose them if you're stopped - no exceptions.

As for UK customs stopping you - remember, they'll be looking for evidence that you're intending to sell them on. And they are a law unto themselves - if they decide to seize, you've no chance of winning an appeal.

RevokeNice:

We were always told that we are only able to bring back 1,000!

It might be different in Ireland - the EU only officially demands that people can import 800, but the UK went mental and decided that 3200 would be a sensible guideline.

RevokeNice:

Its not illegal?

It is, the EU ruled that you must personally import items - but if you're savvy about it, I'm sure it's not so difficult to have them sent in the post.

skatesparesThreads: 1 Posts: 1 Joined: Jul 8, 11 ♂	Jul 8, 11, 23:08 #33
Merged: Cigarette prices in poland? in £'s? I heard that fags have gone up in price in Poland, does anyone know an up to date price for Marlboro in UK £'s?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jul 9, 11, 00:52 #34
skatespares: I heard that fags have gone up in price in Poland, Ha..that will amuse the Americans on the forum...! UK.... fags = ciggies... USA.... fags = homosexuals...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 9, 11, 10:45 #35
Even funnier is smoking a fag which would be met with ridicule amongst Afro-Americans. It would mean shooting him. Ciggies are about 10.50 per packet here.

StuThreads: 27 Posts: 1,109 Joined: Mar 31, 10 ♂	Edited by: Stu Jul 9, 11, 10:49 #36
PLN10,90 for a packet of Camel in PL. Marlboros are more expensive, 11-something. £6,99 for a packet of Camel in the UK (bought it last Thursday).

teflcatThreads: 6 Posts: 1,071 Joined: May 29, 11 ♂	Jul 9, 11, 11:11 #37
Stu: £6,99 for a packet of Camel in the UK (bought it last Thursday). About 11,500PLN/year for a twenty-a-day habit.

beckypink666Threads: - Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 4, 11 ♀	Oct 4, 11, 13:57 #38
Merged: How much do cigarettes cost to buy in Wroclaw? Hi Please can somebody give me an idea how much cigarettes cost per 200 sleeve in Wroclaw and what brands I am able to buy. I am flying over this weekend. Thanks Becky :)

beckypink666Threads: - Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 4, 11 ♀	Oct 4, 11, 15:31 #39
can anyone help?

StuThreads: 27 Posts: 1,109 Joined: Mar 31, 10 ♂	Oct 4, 11, 17:03 #40
Marlboro PLN 118, Camel PLN 109. There are cheaper brands as well.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 4, 11, 20:23 #41
what brands I am able to buy. might be easier, if u told us what u are after.

beckskiThreads: 19 Posts: 2,148 Joined: May 15, 07 MEMBER ♀	Oct 5, 11, 02:17 #42
Camel PLN 109. Are these the unfiltered cigs at that price? Becky :) Cool name :) A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!

Sidliste_ChodovThreads: 2 Posts: 683 Joined: Jul 27, 11 ♂	Oct 5, 11, 03:20 #43
Cool name :) Shame it sounds like the Polish word for "barrels" if pronounced the Polish way ;)

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Oct 5, 11, 12:53 #44

This is where the UKBA get away with cheating the UK public. You can tak as many cigarettes as you want within the EU and the burden of proof is on them So effectively, they have to prove u are selling, not u prove taht ur not selling. 3200 is a guideline. When I went home to the UK last time I took 50 cases of 200. Looka t the website www.nothingtodeclare.info. Those guys have taught me everything they know

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Oct 5, 11, 13:48 #45

This is where the UKBA get away with cheating the UK public. You can tak as many cigarettes as you want within the EU and the burden of proof is on them So effectively, they have to prove u are selling, not u prove taht ur not selling. 3200 is a guideline. When I went home to the UK last time I took 50 cases of 200. Looka t the website www.nothingtodeclare.info. Those guys have taught me everything they know

Actually, the "guideline" has just been slashed to 800. And in EU law, there's only a 'right' to transport 800 - no more. Try taking more than 800 across the German border and see how far you get.

And anyone who thinks that the burden of proof is on Customs is having a laugh - they'll quite happily see you in court, or just wait until you crack under the pressure. There was that programme on a while ago about them - and they were catching people out in some very ingenious ways. Sure, you can challenge them - but they've got better lawyers and deeper pockets than you.

(best one being the twat who tried to take in 70kg of rolling tobacco, yet refused to roll one cigarette)

beckypink666Threads: - Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 4, 11 ♀	Oct 5, 11, 14:20 #46
thanks everyone, i usally smoke Benson & Hedges, Mayfair, Sovereign, Regal, Sterling, Lambert & Butler, Embassy - do Wroclaw sell any of these brands?? Thanks again :)

PWEIThreads: 5 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 28, 11 ♂	Oct 5, 11, 14:23 #47
i usally smoke Benson & Hedges, Mayfair, Sovereign, Regal, Sterling, Lambert & Butler, Embassy - do Wroclaw sell any of these brands?? Sorry but all of those are very unusual in Poland. Would Marlboro be acceptable? They are everywhere.

beckypink666Threads: - Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 4, 11 ♀	Oct 5, 11, 14:33 #48
Thanks, what tobacco is sold in Poland? Thanks :)

PWEIThreads: 5 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 28, 11 ♂	Oct 5, 11, 15:16 #49
Thanks, what tobacco is sold in Poland? Not sure to be honest. I'm pretty sure that I've seen Drum but Golden Virgina and Old Holbourne are not things that I can remember seeing. Perhaps one of our Wroclaw members can help with regard to what is available in Wroclaw?

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Oct 5, 11, 17:36 #50

Actually, the "guideline" has just been slashed to 800. And in EU law, there's only a 'right' to transport 800 - no more. Try taking more than 800 across the German border and see how far you get.

And anyone who thinks that the burden of proof is on Customs is having a laugh - they'll quite happily see you in court, or just wait until you crack under the pressure. There was that programme on a while ago about them - and they were catching people out in some very ingenious ways. Sure, you can challenge them - but they've got better lawyers and deeper pockets than you.

(best one being the twat who tried to take in 70kg of rolling tobacco, yet refused to roll one cigarette)

Sorry but ur wrong. 800 is still only a guideline and the only reason people end up in court is becuse they are intimidated by the UKBA and say the wrong thing. They are not even allowed to do random stop and searches unless they have received info that you may be using the cigs for a commercial purpose (please readf about the hoverspeed case - this overturns the 79 immigration act). Those idiots on that TV show were jumping into every trap laid down by the UKBA. I invite anyone to come here and buy a shitload and I will travel back with them and show how to deal with UKBA.

The UKBA have been taken to court twice by a friend of mine and on both occasions he has had his siezures overturned due to the UKBA's illegal practices.

PWEIThreads: 5 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 28, 11 ♂	Oct 5, 11, 17:44 #51
When I went home to the UK last time I took 50 cases of 200. Hmm, a sixty-a-day man are you?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 5, 11, 17:46 #52
Sorry but ur wrong. 800 is still only a guideline it might or might not be. however, if u are going by car and get stopped at the german border i think u can say goodbye to your extra ciggies. there are enough warnings at the border-crossing shops, which sell drink and ciggies. in fact these shops won't even sell u more than 800.

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Edited by: delphiandomine Oct 5, 11, 17:46 #53

Sorry but ur wrong. 800 is still only a guideline and the only reason people end up in court is becuse they are intimidated by the UKBA and say the wrong thing. They are not even allowed to do random stop and searches unless they have received info that you may be using the cigs for a commercial purpose (please readf about the hoverspeed case - this overturns the 79 immigration act). Those idiots on that TV show were jumping into every trap laid down by the UKBA. I invite anyone to come here and buy a shitload and I will travel back with them and show how to deal with UKBA.

And you think you could handle being stuck there for several hours while they use high pressure tactics on you?

It's one thing to talk about it on an internet forum, it's a whole different story when you've got people who will quite happily remind you of exactly what powers they have and what they don't have. Sure, they might not be allowed to do "random" searches - but they certainly have a look at everything that's coming in.

Sure, some of us would just sit there, say "no comment" to everything and leave it for a day in court. But most people will crack when confronted with an empty room, a tape recorder and an interrogation from someone in a uniform.

Wroclaw - for what it's worth, there's controls set up on the A16 from the Belgian border to Calais - they're forever pulling people in and seizing everything if they've got in excess of 800. No discussion about EU law, no debate - you've got more than 800, hand them over. Likewise with the Germans - at least in Frankfurt (Oder), they're almost always sat on the Stadtbruecke and checking bags.

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Oct 5, 11, 17:55 #54

But most people will crack when confronted with an empty room, a tape recorder and an interrogation from someone in a uniform.

i didn't. but i didn't get my radio (difference between a pink slip and a green one, if i recall) back either. at least they made it very difficult and beyond the expense i'd already paid. the uk bond store is/was at the opposite end of the country to me. they don't send things on... one has to have all the documentation and then go and get it.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 5, 11, 17:58 #55
Wroclaw - for what it's worth, yes, i understand. we have spoken about it before.

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Oct 5, 11, 19:14 #56

delphiandomine

The UKBA cannot demand that you open your bags, they cannot demand that you show them your passport. This is your property and, unless they arrest u, thye have no right to touch any of your stuff. Thye cannot arrest you without having had a tip off that you are selling.

We are orginising a fag cruise to france soon, its 30 quid each and we're all gonna bring back a good stock. Anyone wanna join us?

Its amazing how much the uniform can intimidate, post ppl just hand over their stuff to get out of there.

Read the hoverspeed case and you'll see that we allow UKBA to get away with muder.

IF UKBA sieze ppl cigs, its cos they allow them to. JUST SAY NO

I csan just see how well the 800 guidline works if u delphi are the average man

PWEIThreads: 5 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 28, 11 ♂	Oct 5, 11, 19:20 #57
welshguyinpola The UKBA cannot demand that you open your bags, they cannot demand that you show them your passport Yes, the Customs and Excise Management Act of 1979 no longer applies to anybody at all, which is why people who have 20kg of smack in their bags are now allowed to say "Fucck you copper! I ain't opening shiit." when asked to open their bags.

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