COST OF LIVING IN POZNAN

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Feb 20, 12, 11:41 #1

Hi everyone!

I am planning to move to Poznan soon. I wanted to know how much do I need to carry with me if i want to move there. I don't have a jobs at the moment but willing to be registered at an address there and then go for 'hunting'..

I am currently living in a small town with my wife and I've got some savings which is around 2-3k PLN....

Can any of you please tell me the monthly cost of living in Poznan? I would be grateful to you if you could break it down for me!

Regards!

Karl

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Feb 20, 12, 14:09 #2

You are not very clear about anything in your post but maybe this will help a little.

Rent (small studio flat) aprox 1000zł
Bills (electric, cable tv, internet etc) 200zł

Litre of beer in a pub 8zł
Cheap meal out for two 50zł

Can't really help with food shopping as I don't have a clue if you can cook or what you eat! But I would say for two people absolute minimum would be 300zł per month.

In regards to looking for work I don't know what kind of work you are in but if it is teaching then this is one of the worst times of year to look and also from what I have been told it is getting harder and harder to find teaching work in Poznan. What do you do now maybe if you let me know I might be able to sugest some places you could look.

Your savings may get you through two months at a push but if you have to find somewhere to rent don't forget most places will want a deposit which take a large chunk out of your savings.

In short you will find everything more exspensive in Poznań than in a small town.

patrickThreads: 9 Posts: 118 Joined: Aug 3, 11 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 15:33 #3
Englishpoznan: Can't really help with food shopping as I don't have a clue if you can cook or what you eat! But I would say for two people absolute minimum would be 300zł per month. 10 zlotys a day for two people? What does 'absolute minimum' mean?

EnglishpoznanThreads: 14 Posts: 152 Joined: Apr 21, 09 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 15:42 #4
What does 'absolute minimum' mean? That would be based on the op being able to cook and then freeze stuff and eat the most basic stuff you could think of, I have argued this point on here before and I'm still not convinced 300zl would be possible but apparently it is! My partner and I don't eat anything special and yet we spend about 1000zl per month.

patrickThreads: 9 Posts: 118 Joined: Aug 3, 11 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 19:13 #5
Englishpoznan: My partner and I don't eat anything special and yet we spend about 1000zl per month. So why are you telling this guy that a person could make it on 300 a month?

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 19:21 #6
Englishpoznan: I'm still not convinced 300zl would be possible but apparently it is! Just about, with very careful shopping. Plenty have to, including pensioners on 800zl a month. Englishpoznan: My partner and I don't eat anything special and yet we spend about 1000zl per month. That's more realistic.

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Feb 20, 12, 19:27 #7

local_fela:

I wanted to know how much do I need to carry with me if i want to move there. I don't have a jobs at the moment but willing to be registered at an address there and then go for 'hunting'..

I am currently living in a small town with my wife and I've got some savings which is around 2-3k PLN....

What kind of work will you be looking for? If the answer is "teaching", you need to understand that this is not a particularly good time of year to be looking for teaching work. While there will be a few new classes at the start of the second semester and a couple of teachers who don't come back after the inter-semester break, if you are there in a few weeks from now, there will be little in the way of work to pick up. Also, you are going to need at the bare minimum 1,500zl per month to live on (assuming you do it on an absolute shoestring) and need to remember that you won't be getting paid for four weeks after you start working, so you need enough to last you the time it takes for you to pick up work and then a month after that. You don't want to be in the position where you have to take the first job which is offered to you because you can't eat unless you do: schools are very good at smelling desperation and screwing the desperate down to the lowest possible wage.

Frankly, you'd probably be best off sucking it up and staying where you are, doing whatever work you can (can you not get the bus into Torun and work there?) and saving as hard as possible until August and then move in the middle of that month.

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 19:28 #8
patrick: a person could make it on 300 a month it is possible not to starve: bread 2.50zl, milk 1.50zl, potatoes 4zl

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Feb 20, 12, 19:41 #9

peter_olsztyn:

it is possible not to starve: bread 2.50zl, milk 1.50zl, potatoes 4zl

14zl for a kg of chicken breast, 4zl for a kg of frozen pierogi, 4.50 for tomatoes, yogurt pots at 99gr a throw, pasta 6zl a kilo, you can just about live on 350zl for two people and not eat too badly. Not that I'd like to try it (I like food a lot, to the extent that I dropped twice that much on a meal for two last week, food and two drinks each!).

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Edited by: Nightglade Feb 20, 12, 20:10 #10

1000zł a month on food? :) Are you shopping daily in Piotr i Pawel? We don't eat anything special either, but we certainly don't starve and we probably 'eat out' as it were maybe 4-5 times a month. I don't budget particularly well so I couldn't tell you my exact expenditures, but it's likely between 400 - 600 a month for two (plus two cats).

It would be nice to know what you plan on doing here - as others have mentioned above, lessons dry up this time of year. Due to cancellations and rescheduling in the last two months alone - both with schools and private lessons - I've earned only around 60% of my usual salary, not that it's a major problem - it's given me a lot of time to get ahead with preparing lesson materials. That being said, I did move to Poznań in October 2010 and didn't start searching until mid-December. By mid-January 2011 I had around 5 classes a week, so enough to scrape by.

@Peter - how many potatoes are you buying such that it costs 4zł? I bought enough potatoes to make 3 meals for 2 people for around 1.20zł in my downstairs delikatesy (I don't weigh them, I just shove the best spuds in the bag). It's certainly possible to survive cheaply here in regards to food, However, it depends on your ability to lower your standards. Carrefour makes for cheap shopping - jars of typical foods (gołąbki, pulpety, klopsiki, bigos) and packets of other things such as krokiety, kopytka, kasza, etc. My weakness is that I live directly opposite a McDonalds, so on those long days where I've been working from early morning and I don't get back home until gone 20:00, it's awfully tempting to indulge on the fatty goodness of a cheeseburger.

(p.s. the hyphen did not offend me)

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 20:49 #11
Nightglade: how many potatoes are you buying such that it costs 4zł? handy sack of course :)

EnglishpoznanThreads: 14 Posts: 152 Joined: Apr 21, 09 ♂	Feb 20, 12, 20:50 #12
So why are you telling this guy that a person could make it on 300 a month? I said the bare minimum and it would be just about possible if you ate cheap produce and could cook. 1000zł a month on food? :) Are you shopping daily in Piotr i Pawel? Not daily but I do shop there,

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Feb 22, 12, 13:01 #13

Thank you all for replying. ;)

Englishpoznan:

In regards to looking for work I don't know what kind of work you are in

Harry:

What kind of work will you be looking for?

Nightglade:

It would be nice to know what you plan on doing here

Well, same answer to you three guys- Actually I am not into teaching. Because teaching I believe requires a talent which I don't have. No matter what qualification someone got, but if they don't have that talent its hard to share knowledge. And I don't want to mess with those kids future. But I'd say my field is Accounting, Management, Service industry (Hotel, restos, bar, clubs, call centres).

But I'll give preference to Accounting and Mgt first because I am an ACCA student and been working at supervisory level in a care setting in UK for 3 years.

Well from what you all have been posting I can assume that for the first month:

Rent +deposit= 1800PLN
Bills= 200PLN
Travel= ??? (assumed 100PLN)
Food= 700 PLN
Entertaiment & Clothing= 100PLN

Which sum up to : 3900PLN.

Am I correct ladies & gents?

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Feb 22, 12, 13:15 #14

local_fela:

Well from what you all have been posting I can assume that for the first month:

Rent +deposit= 1800PLN
Bills= 200PLN
Travel= ??? (assumed 100PLN)
Food= 700 PLN
Entertaiment & Clothing= 100PLN

Which sum up to : 3900PLN.

Am I correct ladies & gents?

The norm is a month's rent as security deposit (which you don't often get back). You also need to factor in agency fees, you might be lucky enough to find a place which doesn't have an agent but you probably won't. So you're looking at more like 2000 without an agent and 2500 with. You also need to factor in initial accommodation: where are you going to be staying while you look for an apartment?

local_fela:

And I don't want to mess with those kids future.

So teach adults.

local_fela:

call centres

There is call centre work in Poznan but I understand that it pays rather badly.

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Feb 22, 12, 13:29 #15

Harry:

I dropped twice that much on a meal for two last week, food and two drinks each!).

Blimey. How the other half live! 700 for a meal? What did you have?

local_fela:

Which sum up to : 3900PLN.

Sounds reasonable, but you shouldn't assume you're going to walk into a job within a month. I'm inclined to agree with Harry's idea of sticking around for a while and saving up a bigger stake so you can look for a job without living on the bones of your arse, as Mother Theresa was fond of saying.

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Feb 22, 12, 13:43 #16
I'll stand for 2000 zl. Don't ask me why so low. I'd survive.

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Feb 22, 12, 15:18 #17

teflcat:

Blimey. How the other half live! 700 for a meal? What did you have?

www.atelieramaro.pl the five-course menu, absolutely blinding, best meal of my life.

noreenb:

I'll stand for 2000 zl.
Don't ask me why so low.
I'd survive.

Yes, one can survive on 2,000zl per month. But it's not going to be much fun. And the thing is, one needs to have month for more than just one month: it takes a month after finding a job to get paid.

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