Diesel GTI not a good choice for Poland?

Jars777Threads: 15 Posts: 54 Joined: Feb 27, 11 ♀	Dec 20, 11, 12:15 #1
Hello everyone We are about to buy a Skoda Octavia GTI (Diesel) in Germany before moving to Poland. We were told that a Diesel is the best choice for Poland as it is cheap to run. Now a friend from Poland said that we should definitely not buy a Diesel as it is too expensive to run and that the diesel freezes in Poland. Could I have your opinions/experience please? Thanks Jars

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Dec 20, 11, 12:21 #2

Jars777:

Now a friend from Poland said that we should definitely not buy a Diesel as it is too expensive to run and that the diesel freezes in Poland.

You basically need to make sure that you only buy diesel from big garages and in the winter you buy winter diesel (and not the cheaper stuff). Winter diesel is usually about the same price as 98 octane and summer diesel is about the same price as 95 octane.

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Dec 20, 11, 12:24 #3

Jars777:

Now a friend from Poland said that we should definitely not buy a Diesel as it is too expensive to run and that the diesel freezes in Poland.

Diesel is cheaper than petrol in Poland and we all know that you get more mileage from a diesel, generaly speaking diesel freezes at about -40, it doesnt have an exact freeze rate as different companies use different compounds.

Your friend is a bit of a plonker.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Dec 20, 11, 12:28 #4
Wroclaw Boy: Diesel is cheaper than petrol in Poland http://www.orlen.pl/PL/DLABIZNESU/HURTOWECENYPALIW/Strony/default.aspx suggests otherwise. Wroclaw Boy: you get more mileage from a diesel You got that right though. Wroclaw Boy: Your friend is a bit of a plonker. Nailed that bit too.

Jars777Threads: 15 Posts: 54 Joined: Feb 27, 11 ♀	Dec 20, 11, 12:34 #5
Thanks guys. How is insurance and taxes etc? In Germany they charge your loads more for Diesel. I suppose if the running cost is slightly cheaper/the same for a Diesel then it probably comes down to the rest? Also is a Skoda Octavia TDI easy in terms of possible repairs in Poland? Thanks Jars

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Dec 20, 11, 13:13 #6

Jars777:

How is insurance and taxes etc?

No extra taxes to pay if you have a diesel and as far as I know the insurance would be the same as a petrol car of similar value (although in theory it should be slightly less).

Jars777:

Also is a Skoda Octavia TDI easy in terms of possible repairs in Poland?

Very much so. Skodas are very popular in Poland, so it will be a problem neither to find somebody to work on it nor to get parts. Skoda dealerships also have a fairly good reputation. I found their press office to be extremely nice people but I guess you won't be dealing with them.

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Dec 20, 11, 15:22 #7

Harry:

http://www.orlen.pl/PL/DLABIZNESU/HURTOWECENYPALIW/Strony/defaul t.aspx suggests otherwise.

You know ive been out of the country for 8 months now, diesel was cheaper when i lived there about 4% if i remember rightly, it is more expensive in the Uk has been for years around £1.40 a litre, I think petrol's about £1.34. Cant say im surprised about the price hike. Im driving a diesels here as you might have guessed.

I had a diesel van in Poland and never used winter diesel or anything like that and it went fine, it was exposed to -20 or more and started and drove just fine.

RichfilthThreads: 8 Posts: 327 Joined: Mar 8, 09 ♂	Dec 20, 11, 17:30 #8
Stop worrying, the days of using blowtorches to warm up diesel engines on a frosty morning is long gone. Poland isn't the automotive backwater it was a decade ago; you and your Skoda will be fine here.

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Dec 20, 11, 17:54 #9

Jars777:

We are about to buy a Skoda Octavia GTI (Diesel) in Germany before moving to Poland. We were told that a Diesel is the best choice for Poland as it is cheap to run. Now a friend from Poland said that we should definitely not buy a Diesel as it is too expensive to run and that the diesel freezes in Poland.

It's true if you buy 20 +years old car.
Skoda Octavia isn't Zastava,Yugo or Lada,no worries :)

Jars777Threads: 15 Posts: 54 Joined: Feb 27, 11 ♀	Dec 20, 11, 22:38 #10
It's done. We bought it! Thanks everyone!

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07 ♂	Dec 20, 11, 22:39 #11
Jars777: It's done. We bought it! Thanks everyone! what's car's year of production?

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Dec 21, 11, 12:41 #12

On the topic of running costs: How many people have fully comp insurance?

My Mrs WON'T and says it's a waste of money and none of the people I've asked have it. This includes her pals who recently spent 80 000zl on a brand new Honda and can't drive it until they save up enough to have it repaired: It rolled down a friggin hill into another car, as a result of not using the hand brake, this being another local fashion, I've noticed. Christ knows why.

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Dec 21, 11, 13:17 #13

magpie:

How many people have fully comp insurance?

I do, and rate it as utterly essential here. In part because the roads aren't too good, in part because the drivers are utter maniacs and it is very easy to have an accident which is not your fault at all but which you have to pay for (a friend was pushed off the road by a nutter who was overtaking where there wasn't room, she crashed, he of course didn't stop, she had to pay the repair bill), and in part because if I do have an accident which is not my fault but the other guy claims is (happened once when a twat drove into the back of me and then claimed it was my fault because I'd stopped too quickly, I pointed out that I was stopped at a red light and had been for a couple of minutes), I can just get my insurance company to pay for the repairs and then either go after his insurance company, if he has insurance, or go after him in person (if he has no insurance or his insurance is invalid due to him having no driving licence or being drunk or being disqualified or the car not having a valid technical inspection certificate).

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Dec 21, 11, 18:44 #14

magpie:

...as a result of not using the hand brake, this being another local fashion, I've noticed. Christ knows why.

Leave your handbrake on full over the weekend in February, and then see what happens when you try to take it off on Monday morning. It was standard practise not to use the handbrake in winter because of how quickly the shoes rust onto the brake disc/drum. These days however, it's just laziness, the same as people holding their brake pedal at traffic lights (cooking their brake pads and warping their discs at the same time.)

magpieThreads: 7 Posts: 171 Joined: Mar 10, 09 ♂	Dec 21, 11, 19:42 #15
Ah, good, some more ammunition for the fully comp argument. Funnily enough, I had an idea that the hand break thing might have been to do with cold weather experiences, but this happened in July so it was just stupid (along with not have comp on a new car).

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