First hand experiences of the Mafia in Poland

Jay24Threads: 21 Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 27, 09 ♂	Edited by: Jay24 Apr 6, 10, 11:26 #1
Has anyone here in Poland had any first hand experiences of dealing with the Mafia? Alternatively, do you know anyone who has had any experiences in dealing with them? I'm considering setting up my own business in either Krakow or Warsaw (a bar/pub/cafe/restaurant type venture) and was wondering if I am likely to find myself having to deal with the Mafia at some point??

filthy harold	Apr 6, 10, 13:02 #2
ive had plenty of experiences with the polish mafia, from snorting columbian marching powder in back rooms of clubs whilst doors were guarded by men with guns to having cars teefed and making phone calls to the well connected to have them returned, promptly, and with full tanks of gas like most organised crime, brawn rules over brain

inkrakow	Apr 6, 10, 14:00 #3
Jay24: I'm considering setting up my own business in either Krakow or Warsaw (a bar/pub/cafe/restaurant type venture) and was wondering if I am likely to find myself having to deal with the Mafia at some point?? It's highly unlikely unless you're planning to be involved in drugs, money laundering or prostitution.

mulsieThreads: 3 Posts: 13 Joined: Mar 26, 10 ♂	Apr 6, 10, 14:39 #4
i know of somebody who was looking at a pub premises in krakow and the seller was the local mafia, who when he met him was accompanied by a minder and bullet proof car (apparently would have put an episode of the sopranos to shame!!). i dont know anything more than that though.

Jay24Threads: 21 Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 27, 09 ♂	Apr 6, 10, 14:48 #5
inkrakow: It's highly unlikely unless you're planning to be involved in drugs, money laundering or prostitution Certainly don't intend on being but thanks for the heads up! Do protection rackets exist over here at all?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Apr 6, 10, 14:53 #6
Hello Jay, I understand why you asked your question but it is phrased in a way that will get a lot of macho talk from some people. Jay24: Do protection rackets exist over here at all? They can hardly be called ''protection rackets'' but most commercial companies hire private security companies, such as Justus, on the market square, they don't cost much.

inkrakow	Apr 6, 10, 16:32 #7
Jay24: Do protection rackets exist over here at all? None of my friends who own bars or restaurants have come across this here in Krakow.

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Edited by: dtaylor5632 Apr 6, 10, 16:38 #8
A lot of chat gets made about it. Mostly by bar owners who don't want the competition. Best guy to talk to is Tom, he owns Nic Nowego, he's honest enough....most of the time;) SeanBM: such as Justus, on the market square I used this company for my flat in Wielicka. 50pln per month and they always came out to do "tours" of the grounds.

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 804 Joined: Dec 2, 07 ♂	Apr 6, 10, 17:36 #9
Do you actually need security? We've never paid it on our building.

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Apr 6, 10, 17:43 #10

SeanBM:

They can hardly be called ''protection rackets'' but most commercial companies hire private security companies, such as Justus

Cheers Sean, good to know - seen many of these guys touring the city so will check it out.

dtaylor5632:

Best guy to talk to is Tom, he owns Nic Nowego

Funnily enough was thinking of popping in there and having a word with him over the weekend. Cheers.

I'm getting the impression that the mafia presence in Poland isn't that prominent. From what I can make out, they seem to have their own business interests and for the most part do their own thing. I was expecting to hear stories of arson attacks, extorsion etc, or maybe I've just watched too many mob movies. However, I guess I could still be wrong - don't want to be naive about things if I do decide to set up shop.

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Apr 6, 10, 18:02 #11

Jay24:

Funnily enough was thinking of popping in there and having a word with him over the weekend. Cheers.

I'm getting the impression that the mafia presence in Poland isn't that prominent. From what I can make out, they seem to have their own business interests and for the most part do their own thing. I was expecting to hear stories of arson attacks, extorsion etc, or maybe I've just watched too many mob movies. However, I guess I could still be wrong - don't want to be naive about things if I do decide to set up shop.

Just be careful and take precautions....now where have I heard that before?? ;)

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