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 Oct 26, 11, 19:23    #1
thanks to the eu lightbulbs have gone down in wattage and up in price.

a 1zl style bulb now costs 5zl (at biedronka). however, the new bulbs are halogen filled.

if u own a hotel it's time to search around and stockpile

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 Oct 26, 11, 19:46    #2
Wroclaw:
thanks to the eu lightbulbs have gone down in wattage and up in price.


I used them tasting the Europe and I think it is diversion. To read less (yes I have heard that it gives the same light as regular old ones, I am not that suggestible) ;) Anyway it is mostly Union dominated by Germans and Germans like sparen.

stop the earth i want to get off
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Edited by: peterweg  Oct 26, 11, 20:23    #3
Wroclaw:
thanks to the eu lightbulbs have gone down in wattage and up in price.


The cost of a light bulb is not the purchase price but the cost of using it over its life time. The Eu have banned inefficent lightbulbs that cost several times as much and last 1/5 the time.

Natasa:
I used them tasting the Europe and I think it is diversion. To read less (yes I have heard that it gives the same light as regular old ones, I am not that suggestible) ;) Anyway it is mostly Union dominated by Germans and Germans like sparen.


Ah, such wonderful logic. What are you trying to say.
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 Oct 26, 11, 20:25    #4
@Wroclaw: I think you have a street lamp close to your window, you can save money on lightbulbs :)

To be sure, the EU forces any country associated to replace old style bulbs with new energy-save bulbs, but the fact is that you can save money on energy ONLY when the light is on during a long time period. Enegry-save bulbs need to big energy to start and to get warm enough to operate cost-effective as far as I know.
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 Oct 26, 11, 20:43    #5
Wroclaw_666:
Enegry-save bulbs need to big energy to start and to get warm enough to operate cost-effective as far as I know.


and what is more there are hardly any compacts that have a good light spectrum - traditional (incandescent) light bulbs have a very good light spectrum for human sight
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 Oct 26, 11, 20:49    #6
Wroclaw_666:
@Wroclaw: I think you have a street lamp close to your window, you can save money on lightbulbs :)


I only buy wind up light bulbs, based on the same system as the radio. It saves me money on electricity and i no longer have to go to the gym as I get plenty of exercise with my new system. I was going to go with russian night goggles but I would still have had to pay the gym fees. So savings, savings and more savings...
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 Oct 26, 11, 20:57    #7
Wroclaw_666:
Enegry-save bulbs need to big energy to start and to get warm enough to operate cost-effective as far as I know.


peterweg:
The Eu have banned inefficent lightbulbs that cost several times as much and last 1/5 the time.


just to clear things a bit. the lightbulbs i saw (and bought) are the regular design, but halogen. they are instant start and seem to give reasonable light.

those curlywurly lightbulbs are different. they give off crap light and cost even more. about 9 to 10zl

Natasa:
To read less (yes I have heard that it gives the same light as regular old ones, I am not that suggestible) ;)


i find that reading is more difficult with the more expensive, slow to get bright type of bulbs.
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 Oct 26, 11, 21:07    #8
Wroclaw:
Natasa:
To read less (yes I have heard that it gives the same light as regular old ones, I am not that suggestible) ;)


i find that reading is more difficult with the more expensive, slow to get bright type of bulbs.


the thing is the wattage eguivalence to regular (incandescent) bulbs is exaggerated - if they state the compact bulb (fluorescent) is a replacement for 60W regular bulb it's rubbish (at least with the cheap makes) - I have seen oppinions that the their luminosity can be even only half of the 60W regular bulb - and I don't like anybody to make me save - perhaps when they finally introduce LED-s with a good spectrum I will change to these - but the cheaper LED-s give a light that is nothing like a incandescent bulb
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 Oct 26, 11, 21:07    #9
Wroclaw_666:
Enegry-save bulbs need to big energy to start and to get warm enough to operate cost-effective as far as I know.


its only going to be an issue if you switch on and off for a few seconds. Big energy is relative; still not as much as a normal lightbulb operating

Based on the amount of energy consumed turning on the bulb, they were able calculated how long the bulb would have to be turned off in order to make it worth the energy savings, i.e. "It's best to turn off the bulb if you are leaving the room for":

Incandescent: 0.36 seconds
CFL: 0.015 seconds
Halogen: .51 seconds
LED: 1.28 seconds
Fluorescent: 23.3 seconds

In other words, its almost always best to turn the bulb off. Even the 23 seconds for the fluorescent lights isn't very long, and the rest of the times are pretty much blinks of an eye.


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 Oct 26, 11, 21:33    #10
@peterweg: Yes, you are right. Wroclaw is going to buy bulbs for a house usage, so he will turn on and turn off the light quite frequently. Lifetime of energy-save bulbs is not so long, especially when they are being turned on and off many times, additionally they are quite expensive.



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