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Edited by: McCoy  Aug 10, 11, 00:39    #121
There are good Jews as well as bad ones.

for real?!

How many Jewish people live in Poland?

http://www.spieprzajdziadu.com/muzeum/index.php?title=Internetowa_list a_%C5%BByd%C3%B3w

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 Aug 10, 11, 01:51    #122
So, those people in the list in the linked page above are Jews? even more, Masonic Jews? There are Kacynzski brothers there. Real?
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 Aug 10, 11, 12:49    #123
http://www.spieprzajdziadu.com/muzeum/index.php?title=Internetowa_list a_%C5%BByd%C3%B3w


how legitimate is this?
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 Aug 10, 11, 15:57    #124
Because he's a complete and utter ignoramus, that's why.

There are Jewish publishing houses and cultural institutions in Poland, festivals of Jewish arts
and music are organized regularly, there is a Hebrew language academy in Toruń, in many
other cities people interested in Jewish history can attend language and culture classes
and in most good bookstores there are shelves labelled "Judaica". All this in a country which,
according to sobieski, is "antisemitic into its very bone marrow."


Sobieski speaks closest to the truth.
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Edited by: pawian  Aug 14, 11, 15:19    #125
Sobieski speaks closest to the truth.

Not quite.

The average Polish attitude to Jews is neutral. On both extremes are fanatic anti-Semites (Sokrates) and Jew-lovers (me). The problem is that whenever antisemites utter their mad hatred, it reverbarates in media all over Europe and the world as an example of "typical" Polish anitsemitism.
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 Aug 14, 11, 20:06    #126
The problem is that whenever antisemites utter their mad hatred, it reverbarates in media all over Europe and the world as an example of "typical" Polish anitsemitism.

Well put but there’s a flip side to this as well that a Jew and a Jew-lovers alike completely ignore and in a way making it a self-fulfilling prophecy. When your typical hate filled Jew or his supporter spreads his nonsense through a let’s say half truthful if not outright deceitful article or post it usually reinforces this negative stereotype of Poles that had been propagated, nurtured and conditioned in the west, especially in your average American Joe. That’s being felt by more and more of the younger generation by being exposed to it through travel. Instead of honestly debating the topic of interest to you, you bring it down to what amounts to be nothing more than a few slogans reinforcing this negative image of us. Most of the Jewish posters here are hatemonger themselves, skillfully manipulating and stirring **** up. While this sort of behavior could have been tolerated by the likes of you and ignored by the rest as not so many Poles were exposed to it by a simple isolation in a sense of travel restriction as well as language barrier, that’s not the case anymore.

This leads to resentment and that neutrality you speak of will soon be a part of the past if it’s not already. Perhaps someday when even your average westerner has a better grasp on the topic at hand it might even backfire on them on that front too. There’s definitely a room for an honest debate but wherever I look all I see is slander and outright attack on us Poles by the Jewish community and if you think that’s getting unnoticed or ignored by most of the younger generation than keep living in that bubble of yours and keep deluding yourself. Open your eyes, this forum is a microcosm of a much wider world that exist out there and to be perfectly honest, all I see is a fight for converts to the Jewish cause whatever that might be in a rather nasty way which leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and in turn it is virtually impossible to ignore or stay indifferent to.
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 Aug 14, 11, 20:29    #127
Most of the Jewish posters here are hatemonger themselves, skillfully manipulating and stirring **** up.


Where are the Jewish posters here?

but wherever I look all I see is slander and outright attack on us Poles by the Jewish community and if you think that’s getting unnoticed or ignored by most of the younger generation


Slander and outright attack?

Care to provide evidence of this? Internet doesn't count - any idiot can write anything on there, including people who are merely trolling Poles.
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Edited by: pawian  Aug 14, 11, 20:30    #128
=ShortHairThug]Most of the Jewish posters here are hatemonger themselves, skillfully manipulating and stirring **** up.

Wow, how many Jewish posters do you know here? :):):):)

I know only one poster who has Jerusalem in his profile. And he is quite reasonable.


=ShortHairThug]wherever I look all I see is slander and outright attack on us Poles by the Jewish community..... Open your eyes,

If that is all what you see, you must definitely go to an eye doctor. :):):):)

Contrary to you, I don`t have a problem with my eyes. :):):)

I didn`t see it "wherever" when I was in America 20 years ago.

Because I live in Poland and have no contact with Jews, I must rely on the written word. Yes, there are Jewish publications in which Poles are wronged but there are also fair ones.

=ShortHairThug]his forum is a microcosm of a much wider world that exist out there

The world of guys like Sokrates? :):):):)
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 Aug 14, 11, 20:34    #129
Yehudi, Midas and Rogalski spring to mind. They come across as fair and present reasoned arguments. They don't strike me as being defensive and often know their stuff.
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 Aug 14, 11, 20:35    #130
Wow, how many Jewish posters do you know here? :):):):)


I count one, same as you...where are the rest of them? Are there any in Poland? I'd love to meet a Jewish Pole - reveal yourselves!

Yes, there are Jewish publications in which Poles are wronged but there are also fair ones.


As far as I can tell, the only publications where Poles are "wronged" are the same ones which would "wrong" Jewish people in Poland.

The world of guys like Sokrates? :):):):)


The internet generation - paranoid to the bone ;)

Perhaps if they got out once in a while, they'd see that there aren't Jews on every street corner.
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 Aug 14, 11, 20:59    #131
=delphiandomine]As far as I can tell, the only publications where Poles are "wronged" are the same ones which would "wrong" Jewish people in Poland.

Hmm, not only. :):):):)
I have just read Gutman`s Resistance, quite famous, and was a bit disappointed with his undercover anti-Polish stance. I will elaborate on it in a seperate thread after I reread the book and prepare quotes.

=Seanus]Midas

Isn`t Midas Turkish?

=Seanus]Rogalski

Isn`t Rogalski from PiS?

I'd love to meet a Jewish Pole - reveal yourselves!


Ask Ironside.
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 Aug 14, 11, 21:11    #132
Nope, they are Jewish PF posters who come across as fair.
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 Aug 14, 11, 21:34    #133
Isn`t Rogalski from PiS?


He's Irish if I recall correctly. Not Jewish at all.
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 Aug 14, 11, 21:36    #134
Um, I know for a fact that poster is Jewish. There is no debate as we PM'd each other a few times.
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 Aug 14, 11, 21:41    #135
Isn`t Midas Turkish?

Hardly.

Jewish here.
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 Aug 14, 11, 21:42    #136
Mephias is Turkish. Midas has just told you he is Jewish.
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Edited by: MediaWatch  Aug 14, 11, 21:58    #137
Well put but there’s a flip side to this as well that a Jew and a Jew-lovers alike completely ignore and in a way making it a self-fulfilling prophecy. When your typical hate filled Jew or his supporter spreads his nonsense through a let’s say half truthful if not outright deceitful article or post it usually reinforces this negative stereotype of Poles that had been propagated, nurtured and conditioned in the west, especially in your average American Joe. That’s being felt by more and more of the younger generation by being exposed to it through travel. Instead of honestly debating the topic of interest to you, you bring it down to what amounts to be nothing more than a few slogans reinforcing this negative image of us. Most of the Jewish posters here are hatemonger themselves, skillfully manipulating and stirring **** up. While this sort of behavior could have been tolerated by the likes of you and ignored by the rest as not so many Poles were exposed to it by a simple isolation in a sense of travel restriction as well as language barrier, that’s not the case anymore.

This leads to resentment and that neutrality you speak of will soon be a part of the past if it’s not already. Perhaps someday when even your average westerner has a better grasp on the topic at hand it might even backfire on them on that front too. There’s definitely a room for an honest debate but wherever I look all I see is slander and outright attack on us Poles by the Jewish community and if you think that’s getting unnoticed or ignored by most of the younger generation than keep living in that bubble of yours and keep deluding yourself. Open your eyes, this forum is a microcosm of a much wider world that exist out there and to be perfectly honest, all I see is a fight for converts to the Jewish cause whatever that might be in a rather nasty way which leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and in turn it is virtually impossible to ignore or stay indifferent to.

ShortHairThug,

Here in the US, most of the anti-Polish propaganda has come from old Lefty-media Jews. However Conservative Jewish Americans tend to be more fair minded about Polish people.

Lefty Jews are basically still fighting WWII and deep down, Lefty Jews are paranoid and see virtually all White Christians as being their enemy especially Polish people.

Conservative Jewish Americans think this way of thinking is insane and are more realistic about threats against Jews. They don't see Poles or any European nation as their enemy and are more rightly focused on the anti-semitic lunatics in the Mid-East talking about whiping Israel off of the face of the earth.
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 Aug 14, 11, 22:00    #138
Which anti-Semitic, MW? Ahmedinehad? For a start, he didn't say anything about wiping Israel off the map. Secondly, he is anti-Zionist, not anti-Judaism.

What I liked about your post was showing the different kinds of Jews rather than tarring them all with the same brush.
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Edited by: delphiandomine  Aug 14, 11, 22:00    #139
Here in the US, most of the anti-Polish propaganda has come from old Lefty-media Jews. However Conservative Jewish Americans tend to be more fair minded about Polish people.

Really?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/10/barrack-majdanek-destroys-shoe s-nazi-death-camp-victims/

Murdoch : Jewish. Fox News : Conservative.

"Polish Death Camp", you say?

And let's not forget that Fox broadcast a line alleging Poles to have collaborated with Nazis.

Your "Conservative Jewish" aren't so squeaky clean, are they?


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