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ShelleySThreads: 18
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 Mar 20, 09, 15:02    #31
mephias:
America and Australia is still owned by the Europeans (It's not the locals who rule the land), not like the India which is colonized once but now they are ruling their own country.

Which of those countries would you prefer to live in? Which of those countries have good infrastructure? Of those countries which ones do not hand the begging bowl round when they have a disaster? India are a developing country and are developing fast, but the facts still remain they have a low opinion of human life and the devide between the dirt poor who will never receive an education and those that are living the high life are oceans apart hence the reason migration is so high.

mephias:
Maybe our point of views on culture and civilization is different.

What is your definition of a civilised country?

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 Mar 20, 09, 15:14    #32
ShelleyS:
Of those countries which ones do not hand the begging bowl round when they have a disaster? India are a developing country and are developing fast, but the facts still remain they have a low opinion of human life and the devide between the dirt poor who will never receive an education and those that are living the high life are oceans apart hence the reason migration is so high.

Why do you think that India has "a low opinion of human life and the devide between the dirt poor who will never receive an education and those that are living the high life are oceans apart hence the reason migration is so high."?
I mean what do you think is the cause of poor third world countries and develpoed first world countries?.
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 Mar 20, 09, 16:15    #33
ShelleyS:
Which of those countries would you prefer to live in? Which of those countries have good infrastructure? Of those countries which ones do not hand the begging bowl round when they have a disaster?


So maybe it would be better for India to be massacred by their colonizers like native americans. At least their country would have a better infrastructure by civilized europeans !.

ShelleyS:
what is your definition of a civilised country?

For me key point is respect to each other and Judging only individuals I don't care whatever people are doing unless it harms me I don't generalize or judge people according to their race.
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 Mar 20, 09, 16:59    #34
SeanBM:
I mean what do you think is the cause of poor third world countries and develpoed first world countries?.

Poor, corrup governments, Im not saying we are perfect in europe, but we are more regulated.

mephias:
For me key point is respect to each other and Judging only individuals I don't care whatever people are doing unless it harms me I don't generalize or judge people according to their race.

But because of the state their countries are in it is affecting europe due to mass immigration and this harms europe.

mephias:
So maybe it would be better for India to be massacred by their colonizers like native americans. At least their country would have a better infrastructure by civilized europeans !.

Not at all and you know full well that I didnt mean that.
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 Mar 20, 09, 17:31    #35
ShelleyS:
But because of the state their countries are in it is affecting europe due to mass immigration and this harms europe.

Even in this case immigrants can not be blamed. If it really have a bad effect governments should change the laws accordingly. They can make immigration difficult which they are not doing so maybe immigrants also have positive effects on Europe's economy(governments only care that)

ShelleyS:
Not at all and you know full well that I didnt mean that.

Agreed, You didn't intented to mean, but because of this difference you can not compare America with India.
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 Mar 20, 09, 20:16    #36
OK so I have come here from the UK. I was born in the UK, and I know no Polish - yet (see later). I am going to be earning half of what I could in the UK. However, my late dad was Polish and would have been proud as punch that I have gone back to his homeland and am now trying to learn what is, it must be said, a difficult language (for those about to say "why didn't he teach you" let me say that it is hard to teach one's child from the afterlife).

What I tend to get usually is a pleased and supportive reaction, as I am here to help people learn English. Occasionally I have encountered casual racism, including "Russki" when I can't understand immediately and couldn't speak well.

Just a thought!
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 Mar 20, 09, 20:33    #37
Hello BevK,
And welcome to the Polish Forums.

BevK:
I have encountered casual racism, including "Russki"

You lost me here, if you are from the UK, why would people call you "Russki"?
Guest  Mar 22, 09, 20:26    #38
They lost me too. That much I have no idea about (was well dressed in business attire at the time). Maybe says something about that particular lady's worldview? LOL
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 Mar 27, 09, 12:19    #39
I find it so funny. I've taught English at a number of firms in Poland. Some complained that they had to get foreign workers. When I asked why there were no engineers in Poland I was told, "Because they are all working in bars in London!"

In some cases I've either heard of or been involved in, work contracts have either been shoddily carried out or delayed for ages because there weren't enough skilled workers to do the job.

C'mon guys, you can't expect a million or so people to disappear abroad and have their jobs kept open for when they return.
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 Mar 27, 09, 12:26    #40
SwedishPole is right. Can you imagine the sea change from EU nationals preferred to EU nationals not allowed? What a joke that would be! For years, Poles have been allowed to take up posts in the UK and Ireland. Fair's fair, no capping.

I agree with szymi, it's a sad state of affairs if those with sub-standard English and sometimes incompatible skills can secure jobs.
Guest  Mar 28, 09, 03:59    #41
this sounds like america a bunch of mexicans & other latin people took all the jobs we dont want, so we complain about them taking the jobs we dont want
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 Mar 28, 09, 10:51    #42
A couple of years ago there were so few people to do the crops that they were threatened with rotting in the field. Even Lepper considered getting Ukrainians in to do that.
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 Mar 28, 09, 13:42    #43
There may be more willing people to do it now. It's important to help out at every level. Lepper, tho zany at times, had some decent ideas. Crops are critical.
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 Mar 29, 09, 09:52    #44
Seanus:
Lepper, tho zany at times, had some decent ideas. Crops are critical.

Agreed. But if you let people in to do the job because there aren't enough Poles to do it then you can hardly suddenly say, "actually we don't want you now because we've all come back".
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 Feb 19, 10, 23:43    #45
A cutting down on foreign workers? There can't be that many overall. Surely it was suggested by the proponents of 'Polska dla Polaków'.
matteroftaste  Feb 19, 10, 23:55    #46
Mister H:
"Poles want cut on foreign workers" - (in Poland obviously)

I wonder if UK is going to the same thing when they find out about it
matteroftaste  Feb 20, 10, 01:49    #47
Seanus:
Surely it was suggested by the proponents of 'Polska dla Polaków'.

I wonder how you guys are going to react to it in UK. Because a very understandable reaction would be, "Britain for Brits".
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 Feb 20, 10, 02:38    #48
Nah, Brits know multiculturalism very well and most wouldn't engage in tit-for-tat behaviour. It would be understandable in a sense but I don't see it.
matteroftaste  Feb 20, 10, 02:40    #49
Seanus:
Nah, Brits know multiculturalism very well and most wouldn't engage in tit-for-tat behaviour. It would be understandable in a sense but I don't see it.

where are you at now man? lol. I'm assuming in Europe. Can't sleep? lol
SeanusThreads: 22
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 Feb 20, 10, 13:38    #50
In Poland, yeah. Can't sleep? It was Friday night and I don't work on Saturdays anymore. I did for 3.5 years here but I put an end to that caper. 2 years in Japan I worked weekends too so I had to be disciplined. I'm 99.9% sure that you've had a bottle of wine before so you know that you tend to go with the flow unless it KO's you.

As for these cuts, I haven't heard about them.


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