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RodrigoThreads: 1
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 Apr 19, 11, 22:30    #1
All right everybody, for some time I've checked this forum, it helped me a lot and I've had lots of fun with some of the answers, now I think it's time to retribute;

I got married 4 years ago, when my wife got pregnant, she wanted to stay close to her parents so we decided to move to Poland, been loving the place since then, I have a great job, many friends, only the weather is an issue most of the times, but nothing is perfect, anyways, this is how it worked.

I'm Brazilian, when we moved to Poland I applied for a work permit, got it, started working, it was a temporary Karta Pobytu, valid for a year and half, six months before expiring I applied for another one, which was issued with expiring period of two years, after that I was eligible to permanent Karta Pobytu, I live in Silesia, so everything was done in Katowice, Urzad Wojewodski, after getting the permanent card, I had a period of six months to apply for citizenship, so off I went again to the Urzad Wojewodski, then they asked me to write a letter with the story of my life, which was quite simple, then I paid the fees, submited the proper forms that were given on the above mentioned governmental office and waited for 45 days, then I got the decision, after two weeks the decision became public, whatever the decision is you have two weeks to contest, and after that I applied for an ID card, another 30 days of waiting, returning the karta pobytu to the U.W. , going to the bank to change all the data to the new documents, then I applied for the passport, a few more days and that is it. Now I have two kids, a successful importing-exporting business, Polish Vodka is really well appreciated in Brazil and Brazilian shoes and purses do well in Poland, so we're not moving anywhere, we're staying here, and that's it.

If you have any questions, e-mail me at rodrigo@op.pl

There was no crazy interviews, interrogation, polish language test or any other bureaucratic issue apart from paying fees, filling in forms and waiting, it took me a total of four years and two months to become a Pole.

Good luck to all newcomers and God bless you all.

Rod.

PS: Below is the letter that I submitted, hope it will help;)



Your name and surname Katowice, stycznia 2011 r.
Your address


Życiorys


Nazywam się …. Jestem obywatelem …. Urodziłem się …. 19… roku w …. i jestem synem …. oraz …, którzy są obywatelami ….. Z uwagi na obowiązki służbowe ojca dużo podróżowałem w dzieciństwie i kolejne stopnie edukacji kończyłem w …… Maturę zdałem w roku …… w szkole ……., a następnie podjąłem studia na kierunku …… W latach ….– ….. byłem studentem ….. w ….. Po ukończeniu studiów uzyskałem tytuł …. i podjąłem pracę zgodną z moim wykształceniem.
Od roku …. jestem mężem …. (ur. …… w ……., córka …….. i …….), która jest obywatelką polską. Posiadamy ........dzieci – syna …. (ur. ……. w ……. ) oraz córkę ….. (ur. ……. w …..), które także posiadają polskie obywatelstwo.
W …. roku na stałe osiedliliśmy się w Polsce – początkowo mieszkając w................... . Kartę stałego pobytu otrzymałem w …….. roku. Od …. lat pracuję jako.................. , współpracując z ................ w ..........., prowadząc zajęcia dla osób prywatnych, firm i instytucji.



Make sure that the spelling, declination, etc. is correct.

Zman  Apr 20, 11, 00:33    #2
Welcome and obrigado. Glad to see somebody so smart and organized to become my fellow countryman!!! :-) Good luck to you!
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 Apr 20, 11, 08:50    #3
hi there,i'm brazilian as well and just got my citizenship to,just took me less time to get it two years and none months,because when i came to poland i was married alread 3 years.
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 Apr 21, 11, 19:42    #4
Congratulations fellow countryman!
I'm glad I can see that someone proved my point once again: Not everything in Poland is as hard as some people want to suggest.
I'm glad Poland's new citizens are successful business people.
Best of luck!
B.T.W. I'm also holding a Venezuelan citizenship, so we are in theory, neighbors.! I could use a tip or two on an import/export business.
RodrigoThreads: 1
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 Apr 21, 11, 23:29    #5
Spaceman, it all depends on what you'd like to import and where from. Taxes and fees may vary according to origin, product, what it's made of, what it's for and quantity. Feel free to ask.

Rod.
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 Apr 28, 11, 21:39    #6
hey guys thanks for ur postings, I got permanent card and within 6 months i too had to file citizenship (based on marriage) which i did, BUT i dont have any Answere from OFFICE, its been like 70 days now still nothin, once i had recieved a letter saying that they are waiting for reports from Police and Border Police, (which till date has never came to my home to check me) they say in the letter that they will decide my case before 29th of april or will write me what next to do, well its 28th and i dont have anything, Please suggest me if you guys have any CLUES or have been in same situations, Appreciate everybody in advace.
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 Apr 29, 11, 08:03    #7
Welcome to my country! You are now a Polish :) ... your children will be Polish too :) ... I believe you will contribute to the prosperity of Poland uniquely!

I have some friends from other nations who also became Polish and are now living wonderful lives with their new country and a very new way of living :) ...

People from west, east, south and north ... it don't matter now, now you are Polish :) ...
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 Apr 29, 11, 11:02    #8
Lodz_The_Boat:
I have some friends from other nations who also became Polish


How do you become polish?You develop high cheeks?
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 Apr 29, 11, 13:17    #9
southern:
become polish?

It means he will be a Polish citizen ... not ethnically, but down the line that would also happen in his decendents...
faith8989  May 14, 11, 10:51    #10
Hi all :)

I have been married to polish guy 20 years now. Got my Karta Pobytu at 1994, but since now never applyed for citizensship. Many times I was thinking about it, but with some reason ( I am too lazy . LOL ) never did. Few months ago I check the website of my Urzad Wojewodzki to see what's need to apply for citizenship....It's too many papers, don't have polish bith certifikat which is required ( Don't remember if I ever had!?!). One thing is wondering me....if I have Karta Pobytu and live here since 1994y. should I have to wait for citizeship 2 years?

Regards and wish you a nice weekend :)
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 May 22, 11, 20:48    #11
hey faith8989

Well I guess (from what i read and understood) its gonna be tough for you, as u r time barred with Citizenship...

You cound file for Polish Citizenship (based on marrriage) after completing 3 years of marriage OR
within 6 months of getting Permanent Karta Pobytu.... Not late then either/or of the conditions (well if u still have temeporary Karta then its gonna be easy) coz you need Permanent Karta for filling Polish Citizenship

But still you can ask the Vovoid office guys or constult a Lawyer (which is not a good idea as its expensive I guess)

and trust me the paper work is not that BIG deal, BUT IF u are already a European National then it doesnt make much differnece you take a Polish nationality of not, so all the best :)


rgds.
faith8989  May 23, 11, 16:01    #12
Hi ..

Thanks for reply :)

Yes, I do have Karta Pobytu, live here, work, pay taxes etc..Next week i am going to call and check out about my polish birth cerifacat. My husband and I are thinking to buy 6-7 apatraments here at Gdansk and will be better if I have citizenship. Then I could be equal owner, won't neet permision from Ministerstwo Spraw Wewnetrznych. Two years ago when we bought our house I need that permision becuse was my second prperty at Poland..LOL.

I will let you know soon what happen. But defenetely going o apply for citizenship soon. Two years will pass very quick :)

Regards :)
newpol2011  Sep 23, 11, 23:33    #13
Thanks for reply :)Yes, I do have Karta Pobytu, live here, work, pay taxes etc..Next week i am going to call and check out about my polish birth cerifacat. My husband and I are thinking to buy 6-7 apatraments here at Gdansk and will be better if I have citizenship. Then I could be equal owner, won't neet permision from Ministerstwo Spraw Wewnetrznych. Two years ago when we bought our house I need that permision becuse was my second prperty at Poland..LOL.I will let you know soon what happen. But defenetely going o apply for citizenship soon. Two years will pass very quick :)



HUUUUU. I just your post . I am also waiting around 2 monts still no latter no call. What it was with your case please add some word will help me to know how this process is going on.
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 Sep 24, 11, 09:04    #14
I have a great job,

Congratulations Rodriguo for your new citizenship and for your optimism amid these hard times everywhere.
Out of curiosity what is the job you defined as your great job in Poland?
newpol2011  Sep 24, 11, 20:58    #15
its been like 70 days now still nothin, once i had recieved a letter saying that they are waiting for reports from Police and Border



Please tell a bit more. What happen later with your case. Did u got it?
simo007  Oct 8, 11, 18:48    #16
hey, i need help for my case, Im married with polish, we have a son, i got my first residence for 1 year and the second for 2 years, and i had to travel with my polish wife to my country because she wanted to give birth in Morocco, so we stayed in my country for the period of 7months and 17 days to the time when she gave birth and everything was ok , after that we came back to poland and few days i go i went with my wife to ask if i can apply for permanent residence and to tell them also that i had to stay out of poland for more than 6 months they told me that i can apply only for another 2 years!!! but i had to stay with my wife it was very important she gave birth in my cuntry so i didnt have any chance to come back to poland before period of 6 months, and also i asked them when i can apply for citizenship they told me when i will apply for permanent residence and when it will pass 3 years from permanent residence i can apply for citizenship and then i can wait even for 2 years to get it!!!! it's crazy, because we already have 3 years of marriage and if what they say is true then it means i have to wait 10 years to get polish citizenship, and the polish law says 3,6 years marriage and 2 years living in the country to apply for citizenship. im married with polish and my son also is polish/ moroccan so: the first residence card 1 years second one for 2 years again apply for another 2 years because i acrossed period of 6 months and then apply for permanent and wait 3 years and then apply for citizenship and i can wait for 2 years!!! please i need help how i can apply for permanent residence specially that i crossed the period of 6 months, and i had very strong reason, please somebody can help me,
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 Oct 8, 11, 18:52    #17
im married with polish

This tells everything, doesn't it ?
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Edited by: Moderator  Oct 8, 11, 19:16    #18
edited..

Rodrigo wish you the best. Good luck in your new country.
simo007  Oct 10, 11, 18:27    #19
hello, somebody can help me please, i want to know how i can apply for permanent residence even if i crossed the period of 6 months out of the country,as i said my wife gave birth in my country not in poland,
newpol 2011  Oct 11, 11, 00:25    #20
[quote=simo007]hello, somebody can help me please, i want to know how i can apply for permanent residence even if i crossed the period of 6 months out of the country,as i said my wife gave birth in my country not in poland,


Hi, you can apply permanent now after finishing 2 year card. No need tell them 7monts of bla bla. Just apply but what you need it prove in document tht you out of PL coz health reason u wasent able to travel from morocco. you had to stay ther law want this look at below what is consider as out of 6 monts.

Uninterrupted stay:
• Stay on the territory of the Republic of Poland shall be deemed uninterrupted if none of the interruptions in the stay was longer than 6 months and if it has not exceeded in aggregate 10 months unless the interruption was caused by:
1. performance of professional duties or employment outside of the territory of the Republic of Poland, based on contract concluded with the employer whose registered office is located on the territory of the Republic of Poland
2. accompanying the spouse who performs professional duties or who works in conditions referred to in point 1
3. health treatment of the alien

its not impossible but need to do as the law wants. Wish u good luck . also have alook detail on

mazowieckie.pl/portal/en/27/28/Residence_legalization.html
simo007  Oct 11, 11, 21:09    #21
thank you so much my dear newpol 2011, well i told them before and even my wife went alone again to ask to day and they know that i had to stay out of poland more than 6 months, and that i will tell them or not they will know because when they will make copy for my passort they will check everything, as you said is just plaplapla, my wife to day met nice person she understood that we couldn't travel because she gave birth and also the baby was very small to travel by airecroft, and also she told them that i had medical treatment, but she said that she understand our situation, but the law is the law and that i can apply for another 2 years and that in the end of this year the law will change and it will be no 6 months needed and then i can apply for permanent, but my wife told me that this woman in the office wants to help, so im waiting documents from 2 doctors in morocco, my family already sent them and when i will recieve them i will translate them into polish and also take all other documents which are needed for permanent residence, i hope then they will noot say anything, and please you can answer me again im so happy that you gave me a hope, believe me i want to get residence and apply for citizenship just to have peace, i had many offers to work but when they see i have residence card for 2 years only they dont trust me they think i will work and when my residence will finish i will leave the country, and i love poland i love polish people they are more nicer for me than any other europrean country so i want to become polish, and im proud of it i love my country so much but also poland , i will keep contact with you, this is my email: simo.strong@hotmail.com
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 Oct 20, 11, 19:00    #22
I think as they said law is the law. I just got my temporary residence permit decision for 2 years. I have been already here 1 year (with other temporary permit) but i started the procedure for 2nd permit too late because in the urzad they asked me some papers that i didnt know (about taxes, and court decisions from my country). This was some silly as later they told me this wasnt necessary as i didnt come back to my country during last year. So it was a waste of time and energy. The problem with applying after the 45 days before is that i was outside the time for the procedure. This didnt represent a problem with staying here - as married with polish citizen, they cant kick you out even if you are in illegal condition. So this happened to me, because this problem with time, i was like 12 days illegally (nobody hunting me hehehe) and later i got the decision: yes for the 2 years. As consequence of the interrupted time, its like my counting years starts in zero... so i lost the year i have already been here. As recommendation for people who wants to avoid these problem with the counting years: try to do everything according the rules and be aware about this always, dont leave everything for the last moment. Wish everybody luck here... I still cant get a job. Btw I am also thinking about importing exporting something from my country as there are many interesting products, just i have zero experience in this field and dont know what polish people could like from exotic country as Peru. Greeting to everybody.
simo007  Oct 22, 11, 14:24    #23
yes elioug, law is law, and for your situation i can say is good, all what you need to do now is to not stay out of the country for more than 6 months, you can apply for citizenship after 3 years of marriage and 2 years of living in the country, so i hope you will find a job, and i hope that you love your wife and that you are looking for true marriage, believe me or not poeple who are married just to get citizenship will regret it sooner or later because as you treat poeple you will be treated, i hope everything will good with you and all foreigners in Poland,
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 Oct 22, 11, 18:48    #24
Hi Simo007 thanks for the best wishes. In fact, in my case i am not looking for any citizenship as I am proud of my country and dont have any negative feeling to it. I also love a lot my wife, and I am very happy to be with her here together. Unfortunately as I mentioned in my condition of foreigner is hard to access to normal job, and i assume for everybody it would be nice to develop normal life (having normal job, and do other things) so i look forward for this now and coming future. I am architect so obviously my options for job are some limited and for this reason i wrote about "what else could i do using my foreigner background" as it has resulted to Rodrigo with the import&export business. Hope also things are going well for you and everybody.
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 Oct 22, 11, 18:59    #25
I find it hard to believe the OP. Never knew Andersen was translated in Brazilian Portuguese? I have a Canadian mate here in Warsaw who is trying to get Polish citizenship. What he has to go through does not match in any way what the Brazilian Grimm writes. And Canadians are in a different league as to Brazilians.
For me he is plainly lying.
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 Oct 22, 11, 19:11    #26
sobieski:
For me he is plainly lying.


i can't see why he would have reason to do so.
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 Oct 22, 11, 19:43    #27
sobieski:
And Canadians are in a different league as to Brazilians.
For me he is plainly lying.

Since when Canadians are in different league? Get your head out of you’re a**. Seems like a Brazilian done everything right, while Canadian can’t get his head around few simple instructions and proper paperwork which overwhelms him. Did that rubbed off of the Yanks? All that talk of following rules…. Surely a language barrier is the same.
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 Oct 22, 11, 19:54    #28
Why would you want to become Polish? This is not to say that there is anything wrong with being Polish, but why not just get the Staly Pobyt and be done with the paperwork for 10 years. What's the advantage to being Polish other than the benefits it would give you in the EU?
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 Oct 23, 11, 00:05    #29
I think that nobody here is in the condition to say that there is a country or citizenship better than other. As societies are different, people inside the society are different, cultural backgrounds are different and personalities are different too, so everywhere we can have good and bad. I suggest some members here to calm down about some issues/personal problems they could have. To get Polish nationality can have advantages as the advantages that other nationality could give in other situation to other person in the world. I dont think there are 2nd class people so hope whose have 2nd class minds wont make more comments in negative way.
And about the procedures i think this depends mainly on the skills of every person and the wish of them in resolving problems. I am careless about getting any nationality for now, my priorities are to develop first life with stability, so any paperwork for more resident permits in future will de done as i will want it to be. Greetings and peace.
simo007  Oct 23, 11, 14:32    #30
thank you elioug, yes you are right, getting polish citizenship is a personal matter, and if i said that you can apply for citizenship because becoming polish gives many advantages, we can vote, we can buy home... without any problems and painful conditions, and also i want to answer PATRICK, if i want to live an any european countries i can do it without any problems, and im not looking for the benefits of getting citizenship to live out of poland, and you can't judge people and say that they want to get citizenship just to leave in another european country, you should respect everybody and this is a forum where the foreigners want answers for their problems, not acting like a judge and say what others they think!! so i hope my message is clear, and Elioug, i want to advice you to learn langauge and to work in whatever job as the begining, you can work in restaurant...and later when you will know more people and make more contacts then your chances to find a better job is high, i wish for everybody the best, and all of you should know that poland is a good country, polish are nice, comparing to germany or france or england... here raciste is very law, i hope that poland will be much better.


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