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Feb 21, 10, 13:20 #31

dnz:

Why can't polish Workers make things that last or do a good job of things and why do they have such a half arsed attitude towards quality?

The Polish tradesmen are as good as any of the western countries or even better!!!
There is...but one thing...don't forget to book a real & licensed tradesman (as a plumber, a carpenter or an electrician etc !!!!) not a half-priced handyman without qualification because you want your job to be done well but as cheap as possible!!

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,474 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Feb 21, 10, 13:34 #32
asik: don't forget to book a real & licensed tradesman (as a plumber, a carpenter or an electrician etc !!!!) That doesnt mean squat, the best way to recieve good service is via reccomendation. Any fool can get a license.

asikThreads: 2 Posts: 547 Joined: Feb 17, 09 ♀	Feb 21, 10, 14:09 #33
[/quote] Wroclaw Boy: That doesnt mean squat, the best way to recieve good service is via reccomendation. Any fool can get a license. The only recomm I'd consider is to see the tradesman similar job, otherwise I would ask for his proof of qualifications and his registered business name - that's how it works if you want a quality job.

spiritusThreads: 53 Posts: 253 Joined: Oct 25, 06 ♂	Jul 26, 11, 14:34 #34
Merged: What is it with Polish electrical plug sockets ? Why is that that so many of them remove half of the wall when I try to unplug something ?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 11, 14:39 #35
The trick is to hold the plastic part against the wall as you pull the plug out. Otherwise, you could end up electrocuting yourself.

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Jul 26, 11, 14:41 #36

The trick is to hold the plastic part against the wall as you pull the plug out. Otherwise, you could end up electrocuting yourself.

I only visit Poland once a year typically and although I always come to the same conclusion as yourself I normally end up forgetting when I next return.

Hotels aren't too bad but it's a little worrying when I'm in a friend's house and I find I've pulled out half of their wall along with the socket.

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Jul 26, 11, 14:43 #37

You would think that they would just design them with a screw in each corner. Apparently they don't do this because it doesn't look nice but if you ask me it would look a lot nicer than it does with them all hanging out the walls!!

The guy who does all the odd jobs in the block where we used to live said that half his time was spent putting plug sockets back in walls only to have to go and do the same thing a couple of weeks later! Doesn't make any sense to me maybe someone can enlighten me?

alexw68

Jul 26, 11, 14:46 #38

Why is that that so many of them remove half of the wall when I try to unplug something ?

How old's your flat? I remember it was like this in the 1990s when the plugs went into concrete walls but since plasterboard (or is it that the plug fittings just got better?) the problem vanished.

Short term solution is hold the socket into the wall with your other hand when pulling the plug out, I'm afraid ;(

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 11, 14:49 #39
The trick is to hold the plastic part against the wall as you pull the plug out. Otherwise, you could end up electrocuting yourself. Why not just stick your finger into the hole? See what happends !

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 11, 14:56 #40
As the actress said to the bishop ;) ;) Not a good idea, David.

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,395 Joined: May 30, 08 ♂	Edited by: pawian Jul 26, 11, 17:37 #41
=spiritus]Why is that that so many of them remove half of the wall when I try to unplug something ? Yes, it is possible in old communist blocks of flats. =Seanus]As the actress said to the bishop ;) ;) :):):):)

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jul 26, 11, 17:44 #42
Yes, it is possible in old communist blocks of flats. And not only. The type of socket that falls out is still on sale today.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 11, 21:04 #43
In my experience, Polish workmanship isn't bad. Quite the opposite. They are good carpenters and are excellent handymen, adept at DIY. I think the ones that are bad get drunk on vodka and listen to this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbPDKHXWlLQ I don't know about their skills in building etc.

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Jul 27, 11, 01:08 #44

typical polish behaviour

...what - drinking a bottle of water and pretending it's vodka for a laugh?...

Is there an underlying reason why this happens time and time again or do people here just simply not understand the meaning of a "good job"?

...if you compare Poland to the UK 'Today' - then that's what you see

...if you compare Poland to the UK in '1939' and '1945 to 1989' - then any person with half a brain could work it out. If not :-

...do some freakin reasearch about Communism/Poland and how it f*cks you in the head.
(yeah I know - you can't be bothered)

Asside from that - you get cowboys in every country.

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Jul 27, 11, 04:45 #45

The guy who does all the odd jobs in the block where we used to live said that half his time was spent putting plug sockets back in walls only to have to go and do the same thing a couple of weeks later! Doesn't make any sense to me maybe someone can enlighten me?

I'm working as an Electrician at the moment and the most important thing which people check before paying me is the fastening of sockets so I'm paying a lot attention to this part of work :) 1. It is really possible to mount socket in stupid-proof way. 2. Usually it requires buying a new modern socket housing and new socket. I suppose this guy's problem is that labour is cheap but new socket not.

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Jul 27, 11, 07:16 #46

we have 3 polish surname contruction companies here in one of the richest areas in america creating amazing quality homes not pop outs, custom, among numerous tradesman supporting the fleeting industry.

my uncle and dad built our house custom quality

ive seen italian work when youreyes open and mouth drops and not in a good way

i think your just a homesick warf rat dreaming about the sewer you crawled out of.

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Jul 27, 11, 09:03 #47
my uncle and dad built our house custom quality Don't worry, it's just another bullsh.t thread probably started by a limey. Polish craftsmen are often in demand in the Midwest, US.

bullfrogThreads: 4 Posts: 390 Joined: Apr 23, 09 ♂	Oct 5, 11, 08:02 #48
Why can't polish Workers make things that last or do a good job of things and why do they have such a half arsed attitude towards quality? you obviously have never been subjected to that epitomy of quality and a well done job, the british builder..

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Dec 18, 11, 00:49 #49

dnz:

Is there an underlying reason why this happens time and time again or do people here just simply not understand the meaning of a "good job"?

Either you have bad luck or bad attitude when looking for a service.

Another mystery is being seriously underpaid, for many works like pavements etc. people aren't paid enough or aren't paid in time, so they loose the motivation.

With services like plumbers - they are very popular and in fact I often hear the best plumbers, builders etc. are booked months ahead, so that it's usually the most crappy ones who are ready to come when you call and they usually offer lower prices. Best thing to do is to ask around if somebody knows a good, trusted worker. It's just like with a dentist or hairdresser.

If you have a feeling that a worker you hired isn't doing a good job, you have to be firm or just kick them out straight away. I sometimes meet a 'I can't do this today, I forgot/run out of ...' story, then I just have to be firm and logical and suddenly they can do it. I don't know if those people do it for some reason or out of sheer stupidity, but they remind me of big babies. How can anyone go to work of this kind without preparing tools and materials?

Good workers exist, but it's harder to get them as they have plenty of work, as I mentioned.

And anyway, I don't think it's a Polish problem. From what I know it's a problem in most places. A lot of people have a bad attitude towards work, also often it works both way, people try to abuse each other and in the end everybody becomes sly and untrustworthy.

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Dec 18, 11, 00:51 #50

ColdSteel:

If you have a feeling that a worker you hired isn't doing a good job, you have to be firm or just kick them out straight away. I sometimes meet a 'I can't do this today, I forgot/run out of ...' story, then I just have to be firm and logical and suddenly they can do it. I don't know if those people do it for some reason or out of sheer stupidity, but they remind me of big babies. How can anyone go to work of this kind without preparing tools and materials?

I practice this - if someone doesn't do something that they're supposed to do, I don't work with them again. Plenty of other people to work with in Poland.

I walked away from a huge advertising deal the other day, simply because the person couldn't give me exact specifics there and then.

g60editionThreads: 12 Posts: 292 Joined: Jan 18, 09 ♂	Dec 19, 11, 09:19 #51
Seanus: In my experience, Polish workmanship isn't bad. Quite the opposite. They are good carpenters Same here,We are currently installing a pool and inground spa at an amazing property.Its a new build and when we turned up 90% of the workers from brickies to sparkies are Polish and and their work is top notch.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 19, 11, 11:14 #52
My Polish friend would completely disagree with you but this is the value of personal experience, it can lead us to a different conclusion.

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