Saw a girl in black openly smoking a spliff on a Katowice street today

Dougpol2Threads: 1 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 10 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 00:04 #1
Opposite Kopex heading east near ul.Korfantego. :)) 16.15 hours CET Hi girl, you've got some balls, I'll give you that.

WroclawThreads: 74 Posts: 7,276 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Apr 27, 10, 00:11 #2
in the warm months it's not unusual to come across one or two folks smoking in the nearby park. open air gigs and u can always find someone puffing away.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 00:18 #3
Dougpol2: Hi girl, you've got some balls, I'll give you that. Smoking a joint isn't a crime it might have been a joint with some flavoured tabbaco.. and not pot or hash..

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 00:21 #4
frd: Smoking a joint isn't a crime You're wrong. Under the EU public order bill it's illegal, and Poland's in the EU. Get your facts straight.

Dougpol2Threads: 1 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 10 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 00:22 #5
frd: Smoking a joint isn't a crime it might have been a joint with some flavoured tabbaco.. and not pot or hash.. Nah - it was the real thing. I recognised the look of contentment - very akin to David Crosby 1970s :)) Also she had the rebellious air about her, like she was all tooled up :)

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09 ♂	Edited by: frd Apr 27, 10, 00:22 #6
eng: You're wrong. Under the EU public order bill it's illegal, and Poland's in the EU. Get your facts straight. You're wrong, it is legal to smoke a tabacco join... and that's exactly what I've said. Read again and get your facts straight. Dougpol2: Also she had the rebellious air about her, like she was all tooled up :) Youth nowadays, will burn themselves sooner or later ; )

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 00:25 #7
frd: You're wrong, it is legal to smoke a tabacco join... and that's exactly what I've said. Read again and get your facts straight. But it will soon be illegal under new proposals, hopefully.

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Edited by: frd Apr 27, 10, 00:30 #8

eng:

But it will soon be illegal under new proposals, hopefully.

Smoking tobbaco joint is exactly the same as smoking cigs, you just buy rolling paper in any tobbaco store just as random flavoured tobbaco - same tobbaco as in cigs.. and just make your own joints... they don't contain marihuana or any other weird drugs ( that is beside tobbaco ), hence I though she might have been smoking a normal self - made fag - they look exactly the same as marihuana joints...

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Apr 27, 10, 00:36 #9

eng:

But it will soon be illegal under new proposals, hopefully.

This is worth a new thread, or has been done to death already.But here goes.

All this nonsense about allowing a non-smoking room and a smoking room in bars and restaurants is absolute cock.

Decade old research proved that the partition co -efficient set up between the smoke in one room and the clean air in the adjacent room raises carcinogenic levels by a factor of X - yet this is what the Polish Sejm seems set to propose.

Again, and stop me if I've got my facts all wrong, the Polish parliament shows an amazing arrogance in the face of axiomatic truth.

A scandal, and a killer.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 00:38 #10
frd: Smoking tobbaco joint is exactly the same as smoking cigs So why not smoke cigs. frd: a normal self - made fag - they look exactly the same as marihuana joints... Either you've never smoked joints or you've never smoked roll-ups.

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Apr 27, 10, 00:40 #11

frd:

Smoking tobbaco joint is exactly the same as smoking cigs, you just buy rolling paper in any tobbaco store just as random flavoured tobbaco - same tobbaco as in cigs.. and just make your own joints... they don't contain marihuana or any other weird drugs ( that is beside tobbaco ), hence I though she might have been smoking a normal self - made fag - they look exactly the same as marihuana joints...

Frd - we've all rolled our own.......tabacco, that is (smile)

At the old Uni we used to roll the Old Holborn quite generously - but not a Hokie :) No point, no gain - just mighty expensive and not logical.

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Edited by: frd Apr 27, 10, 00:41 #12

jonni:

So why not smoke cigs.

Don't ask me, I'm not smoking them, but there's lots of such tobbaco shops that sell rolling paper and different tobbaco flavours, you can't deny that.
Just recalled a few things, some people don't like smoking with filters, and there's a bigger variety of flavours.. and some people just like the whole ceremony..

jonni:

Either you've never smoked joints or you've never smoked roll-ups.

If you don't stuff a great amount of leaves in there and they are not gonna be sticking out it's really gonna be unrecognizable.. you either haven't seen a join or rolled up cig.

Dougpol2:

At the old Uni we used to roll the Old Holborn quite generously - but not a Hokie :) No point, no gain - just mighty expensive and not logical.

I had a thing for mint tobbaco "anything goes" but now I'm a non smoker ; )

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Apr 27, 10, 00:50 #13

frd:

but there's lots of such tobbaco shops that sell rolling paper and different tobbaco flavours, you can't deny that.

Those are for teenagers to make fancy joints with. Nobody just uses them for tobacco - and if they do, they should get a good kicking.

frd:

If you don't stuff a great amount of leaves in there and they are not gonna be sticking out it's really gonna be unrecognizable.. you either haven't seen a join or rolled up cig.

Darling, I've smoked both by the tens of thousands and been making both joints and roll-ups since before most of the posters on here were born. If you think a joint looks like a roll up, you must have only seen very bad roll-ups or very bad joints.

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Edited by: frd Apr 27, 10, 01:00 #14

jonni:

Those are for teenagers to make fancy joints with. Nobody just uses them for tobacco - and if they do, they should get a good kicking.

Those are there for people who want to buy them same as tobacco - there's a wide choice of tobacco so there are buyers - there's tobacco packages in every newsagents and kiosk. Smoking tobacco in a join form is just as normal as smoking cigs and I have no idea what are you on about being so negative about it. Have a tobacco joint smoker done anything bad to you?

jonni:

very bad roll-ups or very bad joints.

See, you're admitting that it is indeed possible, so I dunno what's the whole commotion about. Come down or you'll have a vein clogged up especially after those millions of joints you'd smoked. :)

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Edited by: jonni Apr 27, 10, 01:05 #15

frd:

Those are there for people who want to buy them same as tobacco

So who on earth buys them? Why smoke tobacco in what you call "a joint form"? I've seen them in a couple of kiosks but they seem to be marketed entirely to stoners, and flavoured tobacco to elderly pipe-smokers. I ain't arguing - as a chain smoker who's tried tobacco in every form, I just don't see the point.

Even in Poland, the land of fancy cigarettes and weed smokers who use glass pipes because they haven't got the manual dexterity to skin up.

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Edited by: frd Apr 27, 10, 01:13 #16

jonni:

So who on earth buys them? Why smoke tobacco in what you call "a joint form"? I've seen them in a couple of kiosks but they seem to be marketed entirely to stoners, and flavoured tobacco to elderly pipe-smokers.

Me and my friends when we were in primary school we smoked some, and I've seen people buying them plenty of times. I smoked them because I liked different flavoures and I didn't like ciggarettes... I think I found it relaxing. Dunno if I could smoke them again I'm not a tobacco smoker anymore...

jonni:

Even in Poland, the land of fancy cigarettes and weed smokers who use glass pipes because they haven't got the manual dexterity to roll one.

Yeah.. but I always though glass pipes were better because you could inhale more smoke and early on when kids didn't have much money it was more expensive to roll a pure one than stick a few small nuggets into the glass pipe. Hell I remember cutting up plastic bottles of different sizes to make a water - smoking device ;) that was all long before bongos started appearing in Poland..

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Apr 27, 10, 01:20 #17

frd:

glass pipes were better because you could inhale more smoke

I find the hit's a bit too quick with a pipe. I see what you mean about saving money but I like the subtlety of the sensation developing.

Some friends just bought a vaporizer machine, called a volcano, which vapourises the weed at very high temperature and fills a large plastic bag with smoke. Too much pissing about for the breakfast joint, but great fun at a party!

f stopThreads: 28 Posts: 2,682 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♀	Edited by: f stop Apr 27, 10, 01:25 #18
jonni: If you think a joint looks like a roll up, you must have only seen very bad roll-ups or very bad joints. What do you mean? One can roll either one anyway one wants to. Especially since many spliffs are rolled by mixing tobacco and marijuana. You can't tell by their look.

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Edited by: jonni Apr 27, 10, 01:27 #19

f stop:

One can roll either one anyway one wants to

There are pretty good reasons why roll-ups are rolled thin and short and joints thicker and longer. I remember some of the fancier joints back in the late 70s/early 80s and there's always the classic smack-heads' joint, a bit shorter and weaker than normal (and always strangely unsatisfying but maybe that's just the company) but most are much of a muchness.

f stop:

many spliffs are rolled by mixing tobacco and marijuana.

Many? 99% at least.

hague1cmaeronThreads: 20 Posts: 1,519 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 01:28 #20
frd: Smoking a joint According to new research shrinks your brain apparently.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 01:31 #21
hague1cmaeron: shrinks your brain apparently. But expands your mind ;-)

dtaylor5632Threads: 48 Posts: 4,348 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 01:32 #22
Pro-longed use can have long term effects on your mental health.

f stopThreads: 28 Posts: 2,682 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♀	Apr 27, 10, 01:34 #23
dtaylor5632: Pro-longed use can have long term effects on your mental health. so does stress. And alcohol. And antidepressants.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Apr 27, 10, 01:37 #24
And uncorrected sight problems, and promiscuity...

dtaylor5632Threads: 48 Posts: 4,348 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Edited by: dtaylor5632 Apr 27, 10, 01:38 #25
f stop: so does stress. And alcohol. And antidepressants. Yep, though not in the same league. I'm looking after two clients at the mo with Aggressive schizophrenia due to their old habits. Then again, I also think all drugs should be legalised ;) Everything in moderation of course;)

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 01:41 #26
The thing about weed is that it seems to affect different people in different ways - a lot of pluses and minuses (and a lot yet to learn about the active ingredients).

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Edited by: dtaylor5632 Apr 27, 10, 01:44 #27

jonni:

and a lot yet to learn about the active ingredients

Maybe, the trouble with it is that we only see it as an illegal drug. Though it's painkilling properties are there to be seen. My aunt has MS and is one of a few people who receives it via the NHS.

jonni:

The thing about weed is that it seems to affect different people in different ways

Same with a lot of drugs, legal or illegal. You have to "experiment" to get the right doses or medication to help the right person.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 01:48 #28
dtaylor5632: My aunt has MS and is one of a few people who receives it via the NHS. It's good they do that. But again it all depends on the person. My lodger has MS and he finds it doesn't help at all but certain foods seem to.

dtaylor5632Threads: 48 Posts: 4,348 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 01:51 #29
jonni: My lodger has MS and he finds it doesn't help at all but certain foods seem to. Exactly, it all depends on the individual. This is one reason I get kinda pissed off at my C/A's. They often group our clients into one bracket forgetting that each client has their own needs.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07 ♀	Apr 27, 10, 02:04 #30
Dougpol2: Saw a girl in black openly smoking a spliff on a Katowice street today Dougpol2: Opposite Kopex heading east near ul.Korfantego Uh-oh. Was she about 5ft tall with short, messy, dyed blonde hair? :) lol ;)

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