Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun?

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Jan 20, 12, 18:57 #91

JonnyM:

Why would anyone do that?

I don't know what you're aiming at here, but I'm sure it's leading to some infallible anti-gun rant.

Am I alone in thinking this sounds rather unhealthy?

No, eating pizza and sitting on an internet forum all day is unhealthy. That's just the brutal reality of how self-defense looks like in Poland, and as outrageous and rather sophomoric that sounds, it's a sad fact.

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Jan 20, 12, 19:01 #92

I apologize if I post redundant information - I don't have time to browse through previous pages. You may find my own experience useful.

1. As for a handgun - technically, if you have a permit in Poland, the law does not distinguish between concealed or not. The social expectation would be that you actually carry concealed.
Getting the permit, however, is next to impossible. Poland's laws are extremely prohibitive, compared to the rest of Europe. You need to provide a compelling reason (e.g. receiving threats).
2. There is a loophole with respect to long guns though. If you have a hunting license in the U.S., you can apply for a membership in the Polski Związek Łowiecki, without the normally required 1 year training period - foreign hunter licenses, per PZŁ regulations, waive this requirement. You just need to take a hunter education class (a few months), pass an exam, and you will be free to bring your long guns to Poland. This is costly, compared to hunting in the U.S., but at least doable.
3. The process is NOT friendly, in any case. Actually, a couple of years ago I tried to return to Poland after some 8 years in the U.S. All the problems with bringing my guns to Poland constituted about 30% of the reasons why I gave up and moved back to the U.S.

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Edited by: JonnyM Jan 20, 12, 19:02 #93

pantsless:

aiming

That's the point. If you're carrying a gun and it isn't loaded, all you can do is aim. Sounds a bit pointless.

pantsless:

No, eating pizza and sitting on an internet forum all day is unhealthy

Personally I do neither.

pantsless:

That's just the brutal reality of how self-defense looks like in Poland

Carrying weapons in Poland is not usual. Imagine being invited to someone's home and they find out you have a gun.

RoughFlavorsThreads: 1 Posts: 106 Joined: Jan 18, 12 ♀	Jan 20, 12, 19:31 #94
cyga: slightly altered version by your government paranoid much?

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Jan 22, 12, 18:06 #95

JonnyM:

That's the point. If you're carrying a gun and it isn't loaded, all you can do is aim. Sounds a bit pointless.

Not really. Loading a semi-automatic pistol takes all about one second.

Of course one could speak about the deterrent of having a firearm pointed at you be, regardless if it's loaded or unloaded.

JonnyM:

Carrying weapons in Poland is not usual. Imagine being invited to someone's home and they find out you have a gun.

The whole point of CCW is just that, not letting anyone know you are carrying. Now, if you're expounding that you may face problems from letting it be known that you carry a firearm, well, that speaks more about the other person than yourself, does it not?

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jan 22, 12, 19:36 #96
Not that there's any need to carry a gun in Poland, nor would anybody but an nutter do so. Imagine if you were a guest somewhere and your host (or their kids) found it in your coat pocket. It just isn't European and certainly not Polish.

RubyopticsThreads: 3 Posts: 12 Joined: May 23, 11 ♂	Jan 22, 12, 20:52 #97
Chicago Pollock: No wonder Poland has been invaded so often Are you mentally deficient or simply stupid?? Are you seriously suggesting that there is a correlation between legal gun ownership in Poland and the rate of foreign incursion?? Do you actually have ANY idea of the history of Poland as a country??? If not I suggest you take you fked up opinions elsewhere

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jan 22, 12, 21:45 #98
RoughFlavors: paranoid much? Yes, you yanks are,thats why you carry guns........bunch of pussies.

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Jan 22, 12, 23:11 #99

There's no need to carry a gun in the US. I never did and I spent 12 years in the Marines, so I know my way around weapons. Very few Americans carry, and although there are a lot of gun related deaths in the US, almost all are in inner cities and are drug and/or gang related.

There's nothing even remotely related to gangs and street crime, say in Washington DC, New York or Los Angeles for example, in Poland. Why would anyone want to carry one on the street? Paranoia or insanity. There are no other reasons that I can think of.

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Jan 22, 12, 23:17 #100

scottie1113:

There's nothing even remotely related to gangs and street crime, say in Washington DC, New York or Los Angeles for example, in Poland. Why would anyone want to carry one on the street? Paranoia or insanity. There are no other reasons that I can think of.

crime is much less straight-in-your-face in Poland (like gun-armed street gangs) and there are circles which if you mess with them or just simply happen to be in their way (like in their way to take over your business) will not restrain from using kidnapping or murder as a means to their goal - some very influential people in Poland died strange death like Ireneusz Sekuła (former head of Duties Office) who shot himself in his belly 3 times.

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