Who's Leaving Poland?

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Jan 9, 12, 10:58 #121

wielki pan:

The quality of life is excellent if you have the money

Agreed, there is also limited choice, the theater is good for what you get.

wielki pan:

a lot of our foreign friends living in Poland would be living like paupers if they remain in there own country

Maybe not paupers, certainly not to the same standard they have here though.

wielki pan:

Hospital and Health services for the rich is not a problem

It is not a problem for standard procedures, if you need a specialist, most go overseas.

wielki pan:

One thing is lacking in Poland is organisations who would get things moving in Poland, ie a group of real estate agents who would put pressure on the government to change all the red tape associated with real estate transactions

Yes a Polish solution for Poland, there are plenty of young Polish real estate professionals out there who are more than capable of changing the future. It is only a matter of time before the Polish " Young Turks" take over, this is not Russia.

wielki pan:

The days of making a quick buck is well and truly over, you now have to work for it

Agreed.

wielki pan:

Poland is still a good place to give it a go.

There is still opportunity if you look hard, although there will be better opportunity in other European countries over the coming short -medium term

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,997 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Jan 9, 12, 11:52 #122
wielki pan: The quality of life is excellent if you have the money......Hospital and Health services for the rich is not a problem.... who woulda thunk it!

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Jan 9, 12, 15:07 #123

I am really interested in your move. At this moment I am very homesick and I think daily about moving back to Canada- and if we would be able to maintain our same standard of living? (we don't live extravagantly but we do pay for private school, mortgage...etc)

Will you be able to find work that pays the same or is this not an issue?
What about leaving your life behind?

I am a military kid and we moved every two years- for me it is no big deal, but my kids- not so sure. My daughters best friend is switching schools at the end of this year and even with knowing now she is still devastated.

We will have lived in Poland for 10 years this summer- I think that is a good chunk of time.

keep us updated with your decisions.

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Jan 10, 12, 00:13 #124

pip:

At this moment I am very homesick and I think daily about moving back to Canada- and if we would be able to maintain our same standard of living? (we don't live extravagantly but we do pay for private school, mortgage...etc)

Pip they say that if you haven't made home in your first 2 years you never will, returning to Canada will even be worse as a lot of water has passed under the bridge in that time and everything is different, best make the best of Poland... Good Luck

FUZZYWICKETS:

who woulda thunk it!

"DUH!"

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Jan 10, 12, 07:18 #125
I am going to Vancouver next week for a battery charge. The timing worked out- kids have Feria.

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Edited by: Wedle Jan 10, 12, 08:13 #126

wielki pan:

they say that if you haven't made home in your first 2 years you never will, returning to Canada will even be worse as a lot of water has passed under the bridge in that time and everything is different, best make the best of Poland

WP, they say, if you make four you will stay for more. A deciding factor will always be the children and education, most people I know in Poland prefer the kids graduate from a university outside of Poland. UK/USA.I would not want my children to be formed 100% through the Polish education system, most of the leading Poles in business were educated in part, outside of Poland.

There are many foreigners, who have already partially moved on from PL, their spouse may remain in PL with the kids, their workplace is Russia,Ukraine or Khazikstan.

pip:

I am going to Vancouver next week for a battery charge.

Enjoy, a bit of shopping therapy too?

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Jan 10, 12, 10:17 #127

Wedle:

If the EU does break up I would much prefer to be in the UK,Switzerland or Austria over Poland, even Spain would be better at least it is warm.

I think you are wrong about this (ignoring the fact that living in Switzerland is basically impossible for most people). Come the crash Poland will become part of the core Eurozone with Germany/Holland/France. Spain has a far worse legal system than Poland and it will not change.

But if you were only here for property speculation then maybe Poland doesn't offer as much as it did before - but neither does the rest of Europe.Banking won't be able to support more property speculation for many, many years.

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Jan 10, 12, 10:22 #128
Wedle: Enjoy, a bit of shopping therapy too? I wish. This is a budget holiday- we will check out the Vancouver Canucks skills game and go skiing on Grouse mountain- I don't need to shop- I just need to have a dose of my world and get my head right so that I can be productive....I am kind of dragging at the moment. I think a no snow winter is starting to get to me.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Edited by: gumishu Jan 10, 12, 10:55 #129
pip: I think a no snow winter is starting to get to me. yes - it is depressing - scientists long ago knew little sun in winter causes depressions (it's physiological) - but it looks like snow helps alleviate it - now with no snow it's really bad

smurfThreads: 46 Posts: 660 Joined: Sep 8, 09 ♂	Jan 10, 12, 11:20 #130
gumishu: no snow is awesome This has probably been the mildest winter I've ever experienced. Last year snow was boring and the year b4 was the worst winter I've ever seen....then again I'm from Ireland so any winter where there isn't constant wind and rain is a win in my book.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Jan 10, 12, 11:26 #131
the winter is coming though - starting on the Friday 13th - there is gonna be serious frost with little to no snow - not good if you asked farmers

NatasaThreads: 7 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 6, 10 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: Natasa Jan 10, 12, 11:30 #132
gumishu: scientists long ago knew little sun in winter causes depressions (it's physiological) The sun affects production of some neurotransmitters, serotonin....melatonin. Seasonal affective disorder. That is why Spain, Italy and Greece have lowest incidence of depression in europe. O sole mio. I miss it. One of the winters will kill me eventually. stop the earth i want to get off

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Jan 10, 12, 11:42 #133

gumishu:

there is gonna be serious frost with little to no snow - not good if you asked farmers

I always believed the frost issue or " natures thinning ' was an issue once budding had begone, mind you the winter has been so mild up to now.

smurf:

Last year snow was boring and the year b4 was the worst winter I've ever seen

I much prefer snow on the ground from December to March, rain, sleet, slush NOT for me.

I would say that rain,sleet and slush are weather types that force depression. Snow gets the happy vibes moving.

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Jan 10, 12, 11:51 #134

Wedle:

I always believed the frost issue or " natures thinning ' was an issue once budding had begone, mind you the winter has been so mild up to now.

not only that - if there is no snow and lots of moisture in the soil and heavy frosts come 'winter' crops are badly affected

Wedle:

I would say that rain,sleet and slush are weather types that force depression. Snow gets the happy vibes moving.

paradoxically also the thaw conditions or around zero moist conditions are one of the coldest during your average winter here - because of the moisture the cold air gets more to you than a much less moist air during frosts of -10 or even -15 degrees - aks seamen why they wear very warm clothes even though temperatures at say North Atlantic seldom drop below 0 - that's why I prefer -10 than a thaw - and snow helps a lot (when it's not melting) - it sure gives good vibes

WedleThreads: 24 Posts: 786 Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂	Jan 10, 12, 12:01 #135
gumishu: because of the moisture the cold air gets more to you than a much less moist air during frosts of -10 or even -15 degrees We also require a period of continuous cold weather below -5 degrees to kill the virus's that sweep in from the East.

Foreigner4Threads: 22 Posts: 1,985 Joined: Nov 18, 07 ♂	Jan 10, 12, 12:20 #136
smurf: This has probably been the mildest winter I've ever experienced. Last year snow was boring and the year b4 was the worst winter I've ever seen....then again I'm from Ireland so any winter where there isn't constant wind and rain is a win in my book. Guy, there hasn't been a real winter in Poland in 4 years or more.

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Jan 10, 12, 12:21 #137

Wedle:

We also require a period of continuous cold weather below -5 degrees to kill the virus's that sweep in from the East.

I totally agree with this. This is why, in my opinion, there are so many sick kids in Poland. Their parents and babcia's are afraid of the weather. I think the body needs some warm and some cold temperatures- sort of like a Finish sauna. Going out in the cold gets the blood flowing and is invigorating.---then again -45 with windchill in my hometown is not what I mean but I love a -10 -15 sunny day in February when we can skate all day and stop for a hot chocolate.

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,019 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Jan 10, 12, 12:28 #138
pip: I totally agree with this. This is why, in my opinion, there are so many sick kids in Poland. Their parents and babcia's are afraid of the weather. it's true there are so many sickly pampered tiny kids, they are not taken out for fresh air if its 'too cold'....in a way from what i have seen it is almost as though the mums 'treasure' the sickliness.

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Jan 10, 12, 13:29 #139
rozumiemnic: it's true there are so many sickly pampered tiny kids, they are not taken out for fresh air if its 'too cold'....in a way from what i have seen it is almost as though the mums 'treasure' the sickliness. absolutely agree.

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