What do you like about Poland?

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Nov 12, 10, 05:33 #1

Obviously there are a lot of things people don't like about Polish people and Poland. But how about for once (especially on the birthday of RP) we focus on the things that are great about it.

I mainly miss my family and speaking Polish on everyday basis, but when I compare Poland to the US there are a few things that make Poland superior in my eyes:

1. People don't fake their feelings. Some can complain that Polish don't smile enough, but I prefer the genuine smiles over the American fake grins.

2. I like the grocery stores at every corner.

3. I like that Polish people actually shop in the corner stores and not only in the supermarkets.

4. I like that the Polish version of small talk is complaining, not some nonsense about weather and counting blessings.

And those the things I truly like about Poland.

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Nov 12, 10, 06:35 #2
... crickets, wind, tumbleweeds

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 07:17 #3
I like the polish camel.

Polonia1Threads: 6 Posts: 90 Joined: Oct 21, 10 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 08:11 #4
[quote=southern]I like the polish camel.[/quote Is that some sort of an euphemism

skysoulmateThreads: 41 Posts: 3,039 Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂	Edited by: skysoulmate Nov 12, 10, 09:15 #5
Not sure if this is what you were looking for as it doesn't pertain to me actually being in Poland but the Polish glider Puchacz has brought me lots of joy in the years past... (not my pic) Otherwise for me it's mainly family traditions, food, history, etc...

KrynskiThreads: - Posts: 175 Joined: Nov 9, 10 ♂	Edited by: Krynski Nov 12, 10, 09:19 #6
Marynka11: Obviously there are a lot of things people don't like about Polish people and Poland Who are the people who don't like a lot of things about Polish people? What are the alleged numerous things they dislike?

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Edited by: Richfilth Nov 12, 10, 09:22 #7

skysoulmate:

Otherwise for me it's mainly family traditions, food, history, etc.

The word "tradition" is an ugly one; it's used to put anything your forefathers did into a place beyond criticism. Racism and homophobia are traditional, after all...

I like the Polish "won't lay down and take it" attitude; they'll always fight back. And I like the "no fake emotions" element of the national psyche too; if a Pole sees something idiotic, he points it out to the idiot immediately, with no softening words.

Aside from the stunning geography and weather (which Poland shares with its neighbours) I'm not too sure if there's anything specifically Polish I like about living here. Most probably, it's the feeling of watching a country grow up and work its way through an enormous identity crisis. This blossoming maturity makes me feel a bit like a distant relative seeing his niece go off to high school (for want of a better euphemism).

bimber94Threads: 9 Posts: 400 Joined: Mar 13, 09 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 11:24 #8
You can have a cheap beer at 8am.

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Nov 12, 10, 11:35 #9

About Poland specifically? Dunno. Poland, like any other country, is a blend of its neighbors. It has a nice balance structured Germany, and let it slide Ukraine. Some Poles are incredibly hospitable, but the same can be said for any nationality. Some Poles are intolerant assclowns, which can also be said for any nationality.

I like it here, nice balance. Close to everything, there is still a feel of forward movement, that something is changing (albeit a bit slower now), the mix of brand new high end luxury of the cities mixed with the basic amenities of the countryside.

Dunno, lots of different things.

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 11:41 #10
Richfilth: And I like the "no fake emotions" element of the national psyche too As do I, I like that Poles are direct, straight - but it can backfire badly sometimes!

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Nov 12, 10, 12:00 #11

Teffle:

I like that Poles are direct, straight

Mmm, the first couple of Polish people I worked with in the UK turned out to be the most two-faced people I've ever met! 'Best friends' for as long as they could use you and then they moved on to using someone else. Other Poles I've met also seem to think ******** about people, making racist or bigoted comments about minorities is ok as long as you dress it up as straight talking.

Fortunately I've met plenty of Poles subsequently who aren't like this at all but I think there are plenty of the former to make the idea that Poles are any more straight or honest in their dealings with people than any other nationality untrue. Good and bad in every nation so it just isn't possible to generalise one way or the other.

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 12:09 #12
rich55: Good and bad in every nation so it just isn't possible to generalise one way or the other. Yeah, fair enough. People are probably basically the same. Why do we even have borders/countries? : )

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Nov 12, 10, 15:52 #13

Who are the people who don't like a lot of things about Polish people? What are the alleged numerous things they dislike?

Just a few topics from the top of the home page of PF.

Are Poles bigots and xenophobes?
I saw Polish nationalism today
Society, Culture Is it me,the Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs

Plus if you read the threads you will find out that Polish people slam gays, they are narrow minded, Polish girls are materialistic ******, Poland is the worst place on earth to start a business, the customer service is horrible, etc. That's what I mean.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 16:02 #14
Heh, so people dislike Polish bigots, Polish nationalists, Poles who don't like cats and dogs, Poles that are homophobic, Narrow minded Poles, materialistic Polish girls, bad Polish customer service, bad Polish business practices.... You like those things?

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Nov 12, 10, 16:04 #15
Heh, so people dislike Polish bigots, Polish nationalists, Poles who don't like cats and dogs, Poles that are homophobic, Narrow minded Poles, materialistic Polish girls, bad Polish customer service, bad Polish business practices.... Obviously I don't. I'm just trying to shift the focus.

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Nov 12, 10, 16:09 #16

Marynka11:

Obviously I don't. I'm just trying to shift the focus.

People like controversial topics, can't help that. They feel strongly about it, they post. I think if you read the topics, you do find reason (might have search long and hard), but there is plenty of pros and cons thrown out there.

Anyway, painting all those things as solely "Polish traits" doesn't hold water...but, it's an interesting view of how other people see the country, for whatever reason. Surely some of it is just to get a response, some of it is genuine criticism, and some of it may just be worded in a manner that you find offensive, but it wasn't the posters intent. All of the posts are relative to the poster.

The good, the bad, and the ugly.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,474 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Nov 12, 10, 17:01 #17
Marynka11: What do you like about Poland? Polish roads the food, cheap and organic, especially meat Beer my house the weather the 100 zloty note Wroclaw Rynek - for all day sessions wood burning fires

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Nov 12, 10, 18:07 #18
I like rainy weather in November, grey sky, early coming darkness, strong wings and people who hide their faces under umbrellas.

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Nov 12, 10, 20:40 #19
noreenb: I like rainy weather in November, grey sky, early coming darkness, strong wings and people who hide their faces under umbrellas. Kind like this painting? (one of my favorites) I like the idea of rainy weather. I'm not doing well when I have to deal with it on every day basis.

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Edited by: noreenb Nov 12, 10, 20:53 #20
Marynka11 Oh, yes, who is an author? It looks like it was painted by impresionist. I like it. :)

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Nov 12, 10, 20:58 #21
It was painted by Gustave Caillebotte. He is one of the later impressionists. The title is Paris;Rainy Day.

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Edited by: skysoulmate Nov 12, 10, 21:06 #22

Marynka11:

Who are the people who don't like a lot of things about Polish people? What are the alleged numerous things they dislike?
Just a few topics from the top of the home page of PF.

Are Poles bigots and xenophobes?
I saw Polish nationalism today
Society, Culture Is it me,the Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs

Plus if you read the threads you will find out that Polish people slam gays, they are narrow minded, Polish girls are materialistic ******, Poland is the worst place on earth to start a business, the customer service is horrible, etc. That's what I mean.

You make a very valid point here. However, at the same token you let your own distaste for America for example shine through. Was the "fake American smile" comment really necessary? Also, the very first word - "obviously" - is pretty accusatory.

Remember that all we see here are some posters voicing their opinion, they are not representative of the majority of the Polish, or British, or American, etc population.

My point is that the tone of your initial post was somewhat negative and yet wasn't that what you were trying to get away from?

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Nov 12, 10, 21:20 #23

skysoulmate:

My point is that the tone of your initial post was somewhat negative and yet wasn't that what you were trying to get away from?

No matter what you do a Polish brain will work the Polish way. If it's all too happy and pink we get suspicious :)

It was not my intention to criticize America and praise Poland in one breath. It was more of an argument, or point of reference.

skysoulmate:

Remember that all we see here are some posters voicing their opinion

I'm one of them, hence "obviously".

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Havok Nov 12, 10, 22:06 #24
I think Polish women are hot, i like that about Poland.

Ashleys mindThreads: 7 Posts: 1,346 Joined: Nov 2, 10 ♀	Nov 12, 10, 22:59 #25
The fact that i don't really understand it. But i get a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling when i'm there (that may be the wodka). Poland is just so... so very Polish. In the south anyway, it's 50% highland hunter, 50% decadence. It is a beautiful part of the world, and the people have an inimitable elegance. I wish I could return. :(

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Nov 12, 10, 23:33 #26
Marynka11: I mainly miss my family and speaking Polish on everyday basis, but when I compare Poland to the US there are a few things that make Poland superior in my eyes: So why don't you move back to Poland?

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Nov 12, 10, 23:40 #27
SzwedwPolsce: So why don't you move back to Poland? Because my husband doesn't want to. He does not speak Polish (and all methods of teaching it him have failed so far) and claims that the industry he is in is non existent in Poland.

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Nov 13, 10, 00:57 #28
I like the Polish sense of humour.

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Nov 13, 10, 01:03 #29

Marynka11:

Because my husband doesn't want to. He does not speak Polish (and all methods of teaching it him have failed so far) and claims that the industry he is in is non existent in Poland.

well, no hard feelings, but Americans don't like to learn new languages, they are lazy that way.... they don't like to get out of their state neither... maybe they are afraid they won't found themselves in a new reality... hard stuff... :)
you made me wonder what industry it is... hm...

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Havok Nov 13, 10, 01:09 #30
Marynka11: and claims that the industry he is in is non existent in Poland. what is he in technology? Why are you guys so grumpy? There are plenty of things that people love about Poland. Like Polish autumn, Mazury, polish amber, The Tatra Mountains

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