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Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars?

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bravoThreads: 4 Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:03 #31
I know the world is well and truly f%^ked. I dont know what we'll do atall atall atall atall....

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: time means Jan 20, 10, 17:03 #32
kondzior: I hear about some new ban on smokig. It's only in public areas. If people want to smoke then thats's fine, i however don't want to. bravo: drink them at home with a fag. It makes no sense to go to the pub...the irony being that many non smokers spend their saturday nights in cramped living rooms with smokers The pub wins everytime but it's the cost.

bravoThreads: 4 Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:05 #33
time means: The pub wins everytime but it the cost. not sure what you mean there old pal.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Jan 20, 10, 17:06 #34
Harry: The highlights: Wow, that is interesting. time means: i don't smoke. Nazi! ;)

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Jan 20, 10, 17:09 #35

Went to a Polish restaurant once. Omg, couldn't breath, the smoke was so thick you could slice the air, not mentioning the headache and all my clothes and hair stinking. I had to leave right away. Many Poles smoke in Poland and they are gonna be mad when this passes. lol.
The law has passed in the US, state by state, and it is so nice to go somewhere with no smoke. For a while they had smoking and non-smoking sections but now they are all non-smoking. I'm glad of this because you can eat in non-smelling surroundings without a headache. Non-smokers come out and eat and there is more customers than before.
There was a time when you could smoke on a planes and you had to buy smoking or non-smoking tickets. That didn't lower the passenger numbers. I remember when flying to Poland once on LOT some men were complaining that they can't smoke and couldn't wait till the plane lands. 9 hours without a ciggie. They thought they were gonna die.

Restaurants good idea, bars I don't care, never go there, let smokers and drinkers breathe the air they want. That stuff kills brain cells btw.
So unhealthy. Poles say they eat healthier and better food than Americans, yet they slowly kill themselves with smoke and alcohol.

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,996 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:10 #36
time means: It's only in public areas. Since when has a pub been a public area?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:11 #37
Harry: "I am convinced that if I had been a smoker, I never would have been able to bear the cares and anxieties which have been a burden to me for so long. Perhaps the German people owe its salvation to that fact." Adolf Hitler 1942 SO...if Hitler had smoked he may have died earlier and saved millions of lives...Ciggies save lives people...light one up now.....!

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Jan 20, 10, 17:11 #38

Marek11111:

it will be excellent for everyone, the business will make more money as it did in other countries after the ban.

Do you want the stats for number of public houses which have closed since the ban came in? Whilst it doesnt bother me going outside to smoke, a lot of people would rather not, so therefore stay at home with a tesco carryout...so the super markets have done wonderfullly out it...the pubs :( Funny thing is though, most people I know dont smoke in their own homes, they go in the garden! So I think its more about the cost of a pint, the smoking ban just added insult to injury...

Spain is about to extend its no smoking ban, I'll be curious to see how that one goes down..

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,996 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:12 #39
Amathyst: Do you want the stats for number of public houses which have closed since the ban came in? Five a day in the UK, every day since the smoking ban was introduced.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:13 #40
bravo: not sure what you mean there old pal. I meant visiting someones home is ok but it doesn't compare socially to the pub. Harry: Blanket smoking bans were introduced in many cafes, bars and restaurants Who would have thought old Adolf the architect of the smoking ban. SeanBM: time means: i don't smoke. Nazi! ;) lol

bravoThreads: 4 Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:17 #41
time means: I meant visiting someones home is ok but it doesn't compare socially to the pub. Sorry. Read it wrong....You are entirely correct. Its one of the reasons I love Warsaw. A beer a fag and a chat..Thats civilisation.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:21 #42
bravo: A beer a fag and a chat..Thats civilisation. For the Americans here...in this context , a fag is a cigarette , and not a homosexual..

bravoThreads: 4 Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:22 #43
wildrover: For the Americans here...in this context , a fag is a cigarette , and not a homosexual.. Thanks Wildrover. Although 'what ever you're into' should be a stipulation

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:27 #44
bravo: A beer a fag and a chat..Thats civilisation. Very true (minus the fag in my case)

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Jan 20, 10, 17:34 #45

time means:

Very true (minus the fag in my case)

Oh come TM, dont be coy :D

I have to be honest, it really doesnt bother me in the slightest not being able to smoke in a bar and when Im abroad, Im not overly keen on coming home smelling like an ash tray (its amazing how much you notice the difference)...Its just a shame about the pub trade, but as mentioned, thats got more to do with cheapo deals in the supermarkets..

(slightly off topic) The pub trade in the UK are about to to be hit again, the goverment are stopping all the 2 4 1 deals and happy hours in a bid to stop bing drinking...They're not stopping the supermarkets though!

BrutalButcherThreads: 1 Posts: 623 Joined: Nov 10, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:44 #46
I strongly dislike smokers in bars and restaurants. There should be a non-smoker zone. What´s so cool about smoking anyways? Stupid vice.

kondziorThreads: 2 Posts: 400 Joined: Oct 16, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 17:56 #47
If owner of the restaurant choose to ban smoking, it is his right, I'm OK with it. But some goverment's almighty ban is just plainly wrong. And how it is that one nonsmoker can terrorize entire room? How so the right to nosmoking is more important then the right to smoking?

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,996 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 18:03 #48
kondzior: But some goverment's almighty ban is just plainly wrong. And how it is that one nonsmoker can terrorize entire room? How so the right to nosmoking is more important then the right to smoking? It's not so much that, it's more that why the hell should the government tell people which lawful activity they can and can not allow people to perform on their property.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 18:04 #49
Amathyst: the goverment are stopping all the 2 4 1 deals and happy hours in a bid to stop bing drinking... More headline grabbing and wtf is binge drinking, just another made up tabloid headline rag filler.

bullfrogThreads: 4 Posts: 379 Joined: Apr 23, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 18:52 #50
Harry: Since when has a pub been a public area? And what does the abreviation pub mean according to you? pubic hair? krysia: Poles say they eat healthier and better food than Americans, Not too difficult!

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,996 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 18:55 #51
bullfrog: And what does the abreviation pub mean according to you? pubic hair? Go sit in a pub and refuse to buy a drink. Then you'll found out that a public house is not a public area.

bullfrogThreads: 4 Posts: 379 Joined: Apr 23, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 19:06 #52
Harry: Go sit in a pub and refuse to buy a drink. Then you'll found out that a public house is not a public area. Now that's an interesting definition of the word public.. Public = free? So next time I use public transport, I 'll try to not to pay my fare. If a controller comes, I''ll protest, and say 'Harry told me, if it's public, must be free!!"

bravoThreads: 4 Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♂	Edited by: bravo Jan 20, 10, 19:11 #53
bullfrog: Public = free? Thats not what he said bull frog. He said public 'areas' are places where you don't have to buy anything. He wasnt talking about public 'transport'. What a redundant argument. You know he's right. By your argument you could call a train or a bus a pub. You are actually contradicting yourself.

bullfrogThreads: 4 Posts: 379 Joined: Apr 23, 09 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 22:24 #54
bravo: He said public 'areas' are places where you don't have to buy anything. Based on this logic, your home is a public area (unless you charge your friends when you invite them!)...Another weird definition.. A public area is a place where the general public can go, and that's it.. Nothing to do with buying or not buying...

peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 22:49 #55
I'll be happy to let smokers continue their habit, as long as I can ** in their face any time I want My bladder, I'll do what I want with it. Nazi were not keen on **ing in their faces either. Selfish Bastards.

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: espana Jan 20, 10, 22:54 #56
the landlord should decide what to do in his bloody bar . in spain the landlord put a notice saying SMOKER WELCOME. if you dont like it f*** off peterweg: peterweg where have you been "half english"?

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,996 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Harry Jan 20, 10, 23:21 #57
bullfrog: A public area is a place where the general public can go, and that's it.. Nothing to do with buying or not buying... Yes they can go there, provided they buy drinks. If they don't, they'll be told to leave and never come back. See the point?

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,103 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Jan 21, 10, 04:03 #58
Amathyst: (slightly off topic) The pub trade in the UK are about to to be hit again, the goverment are stopping all the 2 4 1 deals and happy hours in a bid to stop bing drinking...They're not stopping the supermarkets though! so, it isnt only in australia that binge drinking is an issue...our authorities make out like we are the only country with a binge drinking problem.

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Edited by: jonni Jan 21, 10, 09:02 #59

Amathyst:

(slightly off topic) The pub trade in the UK are about to to be hit again, the goverment are stopping all the 2 4 1 deals and happy hours in a bid to stop bing drinking...They're not stopping the supermarkets though!

Entirely on topic. Governments tend to dislike people getting together with strangers, having a smoke and a drink and discussing things freely - they'd rather people sit at home in isolated family units having their minds sucked out by the television.

PL is something of a stay-at-home culture anyway, a smoking ban will increase this. In the UK it's happened already and makes my heart break to see traditional pubs that used to be the focus of a community either boarded up of being turned into flats.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,739 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jan 21, 10, 10:27 #60
wildrover: Having lived in Poland for five years , i have begun to understand the Polish mentality , and i am pretty certain that telling Poles they can,t have a ciggie with their beer is just not going to work... Musi to na Rusi, a w Polsce jak kto chce. The saying goes. (Must is in Russia, but in Poland as you like).