What does faith mean to people from poland?

Good evening,

I am interested in what views people have on faith - is this a valid concept in modern society.. i am a teaching assistant in school in london,
many thanks

Catholics will dominate the world and crush infidels.

an interesting point of view, catholocism is a humanitarian religion, is that a faith, if so what is the faith

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can we proceed

A belief in something that doesn't exist!

Now the standard faith is the more you consume the better it is for everybody.Just go and do some shopping and everything will be O.K.This is the central message.

that would be blind following

Of course, people have always needed follow something for their own psychological well being. This doesn't, however, prove the existence of a so called personnel God.

interesting that you linked faith with god. in terms of existence or non existence do you have any rationale for it or against it

I supposed it's a kind of security blanket, which for some ensures a meaning to existence.

I think if Poles didn't build so many churches they would be a rich nation

do you think that people before us were lower in intelligence - hence the idea that they created a supernatural god. i must disagree i have limited knowledge however the works of many learned people like kant locke have made us think about options of no god however logically htye have reinforced the notion of a god, it is based on the creation theory which one can comprehend from their own senses, in additon the concept of creation logicaaly falls in the very make up of society - what is this creator is a very good question no logic has answered that yet

i think the churches are playing a better role for humanity then the large corporates and governments. money can 'purchase' but it is difficult to purchase peace and happiness

The catholic church is also and always has been a large corporation maybe the first multi-national. Duping some poor serf to kill himself building a huge cathedral for the promise of heaven thatthechurch can't even guarantee.

i d not think the church can offer heaven or anything that is based on the faith. there are many inconsistencies with catholocism, i agree but look at cafod people are giving up their time for others religion teaches this not capitalism, i mean capitalism does after you have made your millions and need attention or corporate resonsibility. i do not agree with the chruchs way of operating.

The concept of creation will always lead directly to the question of who created the creator. Hence, the argument becomes a non starter for some


I would be inclined to think that our collective intelligence has moved forward in many areas. Although, it seems. little progress has been made as far as God is concerned.




We still have a supernatural conception of god today, so nothings really changed.

Theory of creation,now no scientist supports it.All science suggests evolution(from genetics to molecular biology and palaeontology).The Pope made a mistake to support creation in time of Darwin thory and catholic church is still exposed because of that without any reason).
Anyway I stop because gilbert seems to me very sympathetic man with dignity.

i do not think that technlogical advancement and scientific discovery makes one intelligent - people have alsways lived life that is intelligence the one behaves and adaptss to its environment.
the reason why creation theory still exists because human bengs have common sense - further more the gift of reason and logic. it is illogical to believe in existenc eof earth without a creator. science cannot expllain neither can technology.
another important point one should look at is the existence of knowledge are humans born with knowledge or have they learnt (tabla rasa) if they were born then that is a seperate issue but if they had learnt then from ones sense perception we know that the human mind has limits even collectively then soemhting must have taught the human? we must flow with reason and logic

evolution is a theory and always has been, please do not generalise, there is a lot of research contradicting mr darwins theory

[quote=gilbert] reason why creation theory still exists because human bengs have common sense - further more the gift of reason and logic. it is illogical to believe in existenc eof earth without a creator. science cannot expllain neither can technology.


Common sense is in many cases in total contradiction to science.Scientific results do not match common sense at all.

It is better not to refer to research because actually everything published in scientific journals confirms Darwin's theory(in its modern expression).I think it was wrong that the Pope expressed opinion on a scientific issue.It has consequences.He could give a theological explanation,not interfere in science.Religion is not science,you cannot prove sth or reject it.

indeed, if i recall a scientific theory put foward by a chap called buck it was known as a sterilisation case you can check buck vs bell sterilisiation case, to get rid of poor people, also the theory of natural selection promoted the problems in nazi germany, killin someone becasue they ar enot your eye colour that is illogical not common sense, also science bought this theory about mixing potassium and phosphate to make soil farmable all year round
there are problems with this, sorry i have forgotten the details, in short science is untrustworthy becasue it is based on theories and gives only a bit of information when you do more research you realise it reinforces logic of creation

So who created the creator!

I know that the polish parlament (Seim) ordered a mess for rain.....ha-ha-ha.....
They are on 99% Jesuits and on 80% cantings!!!!

John,
the problem with science is that it needs an explaination for everything, just as cults do, if it does not make sense and I can not see it, it must be proven. Science can not explain the exitence or non-existence of God.
So God gave us other things that speak about him, and the heavens and earth proclaim his existence.
Your ? is similar to one I had as a youth. I looked at the universe as a box and it had certain space, so inside that box existed me and the universe I saw, so then what is on the outside of my box??
So i made another box to put the 1st one in and then realized there had to be another and another and that it was infinite. So I reasoned with myself, and that is when i realized there had to be a God, because nothing else could have done such a wonderful and beauiful thing!!
Faith my friend as quoted in the bible is the ability to NOT see something..."Faith is the substance of things Hoped for and the evidence of things not seen", so in order for our faith to be real we can not see what we hope for....Does not make sense does it, that is why it is simply Faith.
If you have to have an explaination for it, it no longer is faith or hope. It is diminished to seeing something that then we can agree exists. Why did God create Faith, and not show his face to us??
He did this because he gave us the free will to believe or not to. If we believe without seeing that man is blessed, if we are Tomas he would not believe until he put his hands in Jesus's nail marks, that man according to scripture has not faith.
So we have "free will" to accept God for who he is and will be, and that also includes believing he always was, he does not exist in time and space, he simply exists outside of time. We are bound by time, but when we die we will shed this veil that is between us and we will see God for who he is truely, and I can not wait for that day!!
You see it is not a crutch as some who do not understand it, it is a gift.
So you have free will to love him or reject him. I have studied the bible from "in the begining" to the end, and the bible harmonizes itself, and you see the true character of God in this book. You see him alive not dead, you see his Grace and Mercy, you are grateful to him for what he means to you, you choose to love him by free will, not because you are afraid of Hell, it is a relationship, just like you have with your earthly father.
Now some cults as I have said want to have an explaination for this all the time, and if it does not make sense then they must make something that does.

Faith does not Make sense!! You can not explain it.
Here is my total point.
Check all religions in the world, you will see one thing in common, they are trying to rech God on their won and by their will and works, every single one!!
christinaity is the only religion on the world where a God came down to reach man, he did not require something from us, "he gave" He gave his only begotten Son, so he that believeth in him shall have everlasting life!! "he who" meaning "anyone", there are no prerequisites, just simply "Faith"

have a great day!! and God Bless you Sir!!

i need to go to for now i will write more later, is a very good subject in this non-believing humanistic world we live in today, there are reasons why many people have a hard time believing in a God today and it is alot to do with our lifestyle and cultures!!
later!!!

a famous philosopher said 'when you leanr a bit about science u disregard the creator when study science in depth it reinforces the belief in a creator'
there is a book known as the koran and apparently it has several references to phenomomena that one could call scientifc.. some dud called maurice bucaille a 'French scientist has done som interesting work;

Faith in God and organised religion do not necessarily go hand in hand. I hate to raise an old argument but seriously is the world more peaceful because of organised religion?
And how many murders were justified with the words "because God is on our side"

an excellent case bought forward. the remarkable thing one forgets is that the 20th century was a 'bloody' one, many people lost thier lives for various reasons one underlying factor was the belief in ideology - world war ONE was nationalism, world war TWO fascism - then we had communism and the fight for power iraq, iran, kuwait.. but yes religion does casue great conflicts, in general though i think it does not, its mainly because people get to 'extreme' into things. if people follow their religions and also repsect others then there will be peace.. i like religions because they teach - charity, belief, crime reduction, ethics and morality. when you have faith you have something strict that governs your life - other wise you just blow like the wind.. whatever is around follow that