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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 18:08  #31

I agree i hate terrorists to, but slinging around dumb comments like the one you did just futher perpetuates thier cause and anyone who reads its feeling towards thier cause especialy when they are the ones who were done wrong to begin with...

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Wroclaw
  Mar 8, 08, 18:09  #32

Arise_St_George wrote:
I'm 22 years old and I have a deep hatred of terrorists.


Then why don't you concentrate on the terrorists of today rather than making reference to the actions of 1689.


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 18:13  #33

Wroclaw wrote:
Then why don't you concentrate on the terrorists of today rather than making reference to the actions of 1689.


exactly !!

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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 8, 08, 18:13  #34

Wroclaw wrote:

Then why don't you concentrate on the terrorists of today rather than making reference to the actions of 1689.


1689????

You only need to go back to the 90s matey! The IRA bombings in Manchester in 1996 is one example...

Now drop it...


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Wroclaw
  Mar 8, 08, 18:18  #35

Arise_St_George wrote:
Now drop it...


When I'm ready to.

Your 'No Surrender' slogan relates to the Siege of Derry in 1689.


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 18:19  #36

Im not going to go any further than this with you cause if your unable to read and under stand your history and know what started the irish reaction you nerver will..
The english were and still are to blame and in the wrong!!!!!!!!

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Arise_St_George
  Mar 8, 08, 18:20  #37

And I'm relating to the IRA terrorists who were killing innocent people as recently as the late 90s


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Mar 8, 08, 18:21  #38

Arise_St_George wrote:
And I'm relating to the IRA terrorists who were killing innocent people as recently as the late 90s


In Poland IRA isn't considered bad organisation ...

cheers


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Arise_St_George
  Mar 8, 08, 18:22  #39

Lukasz wrote:
In Poland IRA isn't considered bad organisation ...

cheers


Then perhaps the Nazis weren't that bad either...?


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 18:26  #40

Arise_St_George wrote:
Then perhaps the Nazis weren't that bad either...?



WOW!!!!

I cant believe your going there your just further proving the point that the english are wrong.. the nazis and england both believed they could do what ever the **** they wanted regardless of the lives and religons of others...

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Wroclaw
  Mar 8, 08, 18:26  #41

Arise_St_George wrote:
And I'm relating to the IRA terrorists who were killing innocent people as recently as the late 90s


When you were still in white socks.


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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 8, 08, 18:31  #42

hu_man wrote:
WOW!!!!

I cant believe your going there your just further proving the point that the english are wrong.. the nazis and england both believed they could do what ever the **** they wanted regardless of the lives and religons of others...


Justifying terrorism, justifying the killings of innocent men, women and children who had no indication of what was going off stoops just as low. By saying the IRA are not a bad organisation is a below-the-belt remark.

Wroclaw wrote:
When you were still in white socks.


Perhaps.


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 18:39  #43

Arise_St_George wrote:
Justifying terrorism, justifying the killings of innocent men, women and children who had no indication of what was going off stoops just as low. By saying the IRA are not a bad organisation is an under-the-belt remark.


and can you justify the rape and murder of innocent woman and children by the hands of english soldiers and freed prisoners for that very perpose. i suggest you read your history books son cos what happend was terrible though i cant justiy the acts of the IRA i can honestly say they are no more than a reaction to the unjust treatment they were subjected to......

honestly with out this turning into a petty argument please read up on the history..
then come back to me and tell me i am wrong.

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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 8, 08, 18:49  #44

hu_man wrote:
and can you justify the rape and murder of innocent woman and children by the hands of english soldiers and freed prisoners for that very perpose. i suggest you read your history books son cos what happend was terrible though i cant justiy the acts of the IRA i can honestly say they are no more than a reaction to the unjust treatment they were subjected to......

honestly with out this turning into a petty argument please read up on the history..
then come back to me and tell me i am wrong.


What has that got to do with the IRA? I sang a song on the first page regarding the IRA therefore the topic is of the IRA. People here got offensive because of the IRA bashing song. The IRA is a terrorist organisation who killed innocent people for their political gain. Whatever opinion you have of SOME English soldiers that allegedly raped and murdered innocent women then feel free to voice your opinion and I'd no doubt agree with you. My dad certainly did not rape anyone or even murder women.

The majority of Northern Irish WANT to be British.

hu_man wrote:
What do you mean "what has this got to do with the IRA" do you even know why they IRA was formed ?


I'm not talking about the history of the IRA. I'm talking of the ACTIONS of the IRA. WHY they're deemed TERRORISTS. Killing innocent people all for "Independence." Let them burn in hell ;)


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tornado2007
  Mar 8, 08, 19:06  #45

With all due respect the IRA are-were Terrorists, there is no doubting that. It dosen't take a rocket scientist to recognise that and anybody who doubts that is either stupid or a sympathiser to the so called 'cause'.


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 19:07  #46

Whatever man!

hopfully one day you will get what im trying to tell you, just learn your history and then learn how to ignore how messed your contries actions have been.
cos it seems thats what everyone else seems to be doing. its funny how when your in school they only teach you one side of the story and only those who dig deeper off thier own accord find the truth... happy livin mate... seriously god bless

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tornado2007
  Mar 8, 08, 19:10  #47

hu_man wrote:

hopfully one day you will get what im trying to tell you, just learn your history and then learn how to ignore how messed your contries actions have been.
cos it seems thats what everyone else seems to be doing. its funny how when your in school they only teach you one side of the story and only those who dig deeper off thier own accord find the truth... happy livin mate... seriously god bless

wow you almost sound like a PIRA preacher, spreading your filth and blaiming the UK as usual, if you want things sorted out you should have tried politically before bringing innocent civi's into it with your nail bombs and pointless free for all shootings of school children.


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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 8, 08, 19:11  #48

hu_man wrote:
Whatever man!

hopfully one day you will get what im trying to tell you, just learn your history and then learn how to ignore how messed your contries actions have been.
cos it seems thats what everyone else seems to be doing. its funny how when your in school they only teach you one side of the story and only those who dig deeper off thier own accord find the truth... happy livin mate... seriously god bless


I don't need to learn history to distinguish who's a terrorist.


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 19:12  #49

im not doubting that but dont you think the world has to wake up and ask its self why the f&ck are there terrorists and who's provoking them?

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tornado2007
  Mar 8, 08, 19:18  #50

hu_man wrote:

im not doubting that but dont you think the world has to wake up and ask its self why the f&ck are there terrorists and who's provoking them?

thats a very good and valid point, however some terrorists do not need provoking as they are religiously driven


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Arise_St_George
  Mar 8, 08, 19:20  #51

hu_man wrote:
im not doubting that but dont you think the world has to wake up and ask its self why the f&ck are there terrorists and who's provoking them?


What would have been the solution to IRA terrorism? Would it be to hand Northern Ireland their Independence? Problem sorted. However we would have had a new breed. Protestants who wanted to remain part of the UK...! A no-win situation. Independence is no justification for terrorism.


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Seanus
  Mar 8, 08, 19:20  #52

youtube.com/watch?v=msfxiodoMQQ&feature=related, one of the best videos on Youtube to see the truth, bless this man, RIP

Some believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I'm proud of it." David Rockefeller "Memoirs" 2002, here's where it's at


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hu_man
Edited by: hu_man  Mar 8, 08, 19:23  #53

and thats why many terrorist organizations are created for bieng persecuted for there religious beliefs .... neither are ok but a negative action creates a reaction..think about it

and as for giving them back there independance yea it should be given back it should never have been taken away..!

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tornado2007
  Mar 8, 08, 19:25  #54

hu_man wrote:

and thats why many terrorist organizations are created for bieng persecuted for there religious beliefs .... neither are ok but a negative action creates a reaction..think about it

Answer to terrorism then, bin religion altogether, wipe it from the memories and minds of every person in the world, without religion there may be a chance for peace :):):)

(DAM I HATE RELIGION, but i'm not going to blow anybody up:):):):):):) )


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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 8, 08, 19:30  #55

hu_man wrote:
and as for giving them back there independance yea it should be given back it should never have been taken away..!


Even though the majority of the people of Northern Ireland want to remain part of the UK? I'm sure we'd have had a much bigger terrorist organisation to contend with had we given Northern Ireland back.


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hu_man
  Mar 8, 08, 19:33  #56

Arise_St_George wrote:
Even though the majority of the people of Northern Ireland want to remain part of the UK? I'm sure we'd have had a much bigger terrorist organisation to contend with had we given Northern Ireland back.


its funny your still dojing my point that it shouldnt have been taken..

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Arise_St_George
  Mar 8, 08, 19:38  #57

hu_man wrote:
its funny your still dojing my point that it shouldnt have been taken..


Huh? I never said it SHOULD have been taken. I condemned the actions of the IRA. It should been dealt with POLITICALLY not through bloodshed.


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Matek
  Mar 9, 08, 07:44  #58

Thanks for your help, mate!

Arise_St_George wrote:
What city do you live in?


I live in Birmingham.

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GlasgowSteven
  Mar 9, 08, 10:29  #59

Arise_St_George wrote:
Ummm yes he IS the Patron Saint Of England. As I said before, I do not care for other countries. In THIS country St George is our Patron Saint. The Saint George flag is OUR flag.

Keep St George in my heart, keep me English
Keep St George in my heart, I pray
Keep St George in my heart, keep me English Keep me English to my dying day
No surrender No surrender No surrender to the IRA SCUM!


And your flag, along with the union jack are a sign of hatred all over the world........ to millions of people it represents murder, rape, torture, pillage ,occupation...... its hated all over the world, like your people....... tiocfaidh ar la

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noimmigration
  Mar 9, 08, 10:33  #60

Arise_St_George wrote:
The majority of Northern Irish WANT to be British.


rubbish abut half of northern ireland wants to be british, this is because the catholic populaiton has exploded since the 70s and it wont be long until the religious majority is cartholic

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