Polish Forum Moderators Censorship

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Feb 9, 08, 15:07 #1

For some reason the current moderators of this forums, online now: Zgubiony, daffy, PolskaDoll, porta have twice removed an article I posted in Polish Politics/History covering the recent meeting between Donald Tusk & Vladimir Putin..if you Google this phrase, it comes up first, as a post to Polish Forums...click on it, and see what happens...my question is: why?...this article was posted as a topic for discussion, and was originally sourced from a French publication and included photos from Yahoo!...Why is there a censorship of this?

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07 ♀	Edited by: PolskaDoll Feb 9, 08, 15:09 #2
joepilsudski wrote: if you Google this phrase, it comes up first, as a post to Polish Forums. Actually it doesn't. Both your posts are in random chat and you need to read #10 in the Terms of Service. As usual provide a link to the article and short quote from it.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 15:20 #3
where is the article?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 15:22 #4
On the random thread

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Edited by: joepilsudski Feb 9, 08, 15:22 #5

the moderators deleted my original posts of the articles & moved them to Random Chat...I posted the original article from a French publication w/photos but the moderators here, playing kindergarden games, didn't consider them appropriate for
Polish Politics/History...below is what they wrote to me when I complaied about their censorship policy.

PolskaDoll wrote:

Actually it doesn't. Both your posts are in random chat and you need to read #10 in the Terms of Service. As usual provide a link to the article and short quote from it.

JoePilsudski wrote:

This article was not Random Chat, it was fully sourced, and I actually posted the article in it's entirety...by moving something to the 'rabbit hole', you prevent others from becoming aware of it and responding...why play silly games?

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07 ♀	Edited by: PolskaDoll Feb 9, 08, 15:25 #6
No, the article was not "random chat" but it's there because all you've done is copy and paste an entire article, yet again. Read The Rules point #10 and then you'll understand why it's twice been sent to Random Chat. I won't say it again - they are not deleted.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Feb 9, 08, 15:27 #7

PolskaDoll wrote:

No, the article was not "random chat" but it there because all you've done is copy and paste an entire article, yet again. Read The Rules point #10 and then you'll understand why it's twice been sent to Random Chat.

'The Rules'...are you perhaps a former Communist Party member?...perhaps I should have just added a comment like, 'This is Good' or 'This Is No Good'?...why not let the people just read and comment for themselves?...'The Rules', indeed!

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Edited by: plk123 Feb 9, 08, 15:28 #8
Seanus wrote: On the random thread i know man, i read it last night and even commented. i am just thinking he could have re-linked the damn thing in this thread. joepilsudski wrote: 'The Rules'...are you perhaps a former Communist Party member? is this really such a big deal?

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Feb 9, 08, 15:33 #9

joepilsudski wrote:

'The Rules'...are you perhaps a former Communist Party member?...perhaps I should have just added a comment like, 'This is Good' or 'This Is No Good'?...why not let the people just read and comment for themselves?...'The Rules', indeed!

For the final time, if you want people here to read an article you have found, post a link to the article and a short quote of some of the article text. Do not post the whole article or it will be removed to "Random Chat" and eventually it will be deleted.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Feb 9, 08, 15:44 #10

For the final time, if you want people here to read an article you have found, post a link to the article and a short quote of some of the article text. Do not post the whole article or it will be removed to "Random Chat" and eventually it will be deleted.

Yes, matka, I don't wish to be spanked!
And by the way Polska Doll, if you live in Scotland, you should really try the Hagis!...that, and a good glass of pivo, will improve your outlook on life!

I just wanted to post a new thread, something relative to current events, and get others people's thoughts... but then some silly 'rules'...Enough said.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 15:48 #11
U should try being in law JoeP, a nightmare. Provision 52 (c) (ii) sub-para 3 (iv) of clause 3 (iii) states that....oops, well screw me, kinda slipped my mind. Didn't u know, current affairs are yesterday's news? LOL

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Feb 9, 08, 15:55 #12

joepilsudski wrote:

And by the way Polska Doll, if you live in Scotland, you should really try the Hagis!...that, and a good glass of pivo, will improve your outlook on life!

I just wanted to post a new thread, something relative to current events, and get others people's thoughts... but then some silly 'rules'...Enough said.

My outlook on life is fine thanks. The rules are there for a reason and I'm here to maintain them. Start a new thread with your article link and short quote and it will be fine.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Feb 9, 08, 15:57 #13

Seanus wrote:

U should try being in law JoeP, a nightmare. Provision 52 (c) (ii) sub-para 3 (iv) of clause 3 (iii) states that...

I am in insurance, that's bad enough.

PolskaDoll wrote:
My outlook on life is fine thanks. The rules are there for a reason and I'm here to maintain them. Start a new thread with your article link and short quote and it will be fine.

Polska Doll, you need to immigrate to the USA...then you can vote for Hillary Clinton...she believes in rules, too, and maintaining them...Pokój jest unto wy.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 16:05 #14
P*****Doll wrote: in random chat ^ Censored Moderator. Some of us do follow links when they're posted. Large blocks of text on here are not particularly inviting on the eye. I should know - only about three people have been reading my travellogue.

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Feb 18, 08, 17:38 #15

joepilsudski wrote:

the moderators deleted my original posts of the articles & moved them to Random Chat...I posted the original article from a French publication w/photos but the moderators here, playing kindergarden games, didn't consider them appropriate for
Polish Politics/History...below is what they wrote to me when I complaied about their censorship policy.

The "original" posts were just a copy-paste from another article. We allow up to 100 words + a link to the original source; we don't think it's a good idea to post FULL articles that have been previously published by other sources. We want to avoid situations where a poster asks, for example, about "the most important historical events in Poland" and other posters go to Google or Wikipedia and copy-paste texts from there to provide "original" answer. Two truly original sentences are many times worth more than a 1000-word article that can be found on dozens of different pages.

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plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 18:34 #16
right but links tend to go dead overtime and it would be nice to preserve some of these things.. no?

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,059 Joined: Oct 31, 05 ♂ [Administrator]	Feb 18, 08, 18:46 #17
plk123 wrote: right but links tend to go dead overtime and it would be nice to preserve some of these things.. no? From a technical point of view, you may read about "duplicate content penalty" which is one of the reasons we don't allow to publish pre-written full texts. Admin

FirestormThreads: 7 Posts: 511 Joined: Nov 29, 06 ♂	Edited by: Firestorm Feb 18, 08, 19:03 #18
Ve vill not allow any more of zese outbursts. Unt any more attempts at Zabotage. Und you vill be loned up against a will. Undt Sh*t. Lol

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 20:06 #19
Admin wrote: Admin so you're more worried about your ranking then information?.. ok, good to know.

jestesjedynyThreads: 7 Posts: 146 Joined: Oct 7, 07 ♀	Feb 18, 08, 20:18 #20
To me it's logical what Admin is saying.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 20:21 #21
ranking v. real content.. hmmm.. ok jj.. rolleyes

jestesjedynyThreads: 7 Posts: 146 Joined: Oct 7, 07 ♀	Feb 18, 08, 20:32 #22
plk123, I can not believe you're rolling your eyes on me! LOL! Plus, long text on any of the threads makes me dizzy! I prefer to read a little paragraph to see if it looks interesting to me; and if it does, I open the link and read more.

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Feb 18, 08, 21:32 #23

plk123 wrote:

so you're more worried about your ranking then information?.. ok, good to know.

I mean the quality and user experience, not quantity or ranking. For example, you started a thread about:

Klopsy recipe

Would you like to get a copy-pasted article about "klopsy recipe" as the answer? Exactly the same you have originally found on Google yourself by typing "klopsy recipe" on several different websites.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 21:38 #24
Admin wrote: Klopsy recipe Would you like to get a copy-pasted article about "klopsy recipe" as the answer? Exactly the same you have originally found on Google yourself by typing "klopsy recipe" on several different websites. Good point. Oh wait! Any info info (other than some personal bits) can be found on google. Who needs PF, huh? Aren't you shooting yourself in the foot?

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,059 Joined: Oct 31, 05 ♂ [Administrator]	Feb 18, 08, 21:49 #25
z_darius wrote: Any info info (other than some personal bits) can be found on google. Who needs PF, huh? Aren't you shooting yourself in the foot? The information/fact is one thing; the interpretation and comments on the information is another.

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Feb 18, 08, 21:53 #26

jestesjedyny wrote:

Plus, long text on any of the threads makes me dizzy! I prefer to read a little paragraph to see if it looks interesting to me; and if it does, I open the link and read more.

go ahead and dye your hair back to black, ok? ;) :P

you could read the first sentence or two and make the same decision.

Admin wrote:

Would you like to get a copy-pasted article about "klopsy recipe" as the answer? Exactly the same you have originally found on Google yourself by typing "klopsy recipe" on several different websites.

yes i would as in a year that linked recipe may not be there and i sure would like to see it again so may others. basically you're not wanting this forum to be a reference.. see the quote below. we obviously understand the definition of quality in a different manner.

z_darius wrote:

Any info info (other than some personal bits) can be found on google. Who needs PF, huh? Aren't you shooting yourself in the foot?

oh z.. :)

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 21:57 #27
Admin wrote: The information/fact is one thing; the interpretation and comments on the information is another. C'mon, be serious. What kind of interpretation could there be of a klopsy recipe? To eat, or not to eat? Is that the question? ;)

jestesjedynyThreads: 7 Posts: 146 Joined: Oct 7, 07 ♀	Feb 18, 08, 21:59 #28
plk123 wrote: go ahead and dye your hair back to black, ok? ;) :P meany! ;( plk123 wrote: you could read the first sentence or two and make the same decision. No, sometimes it is not the same lol ;P I rather read a short summary paragraph than the first few sentences that may not reflect the whole content's idea.

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Feb 18, 08, 22:04 #29

z_darius wrote:

C'mon, be serious. What kind of interpretation could there be of a klopsy recipe? To eat, or not to eat? Is that the question? ;)

lol.. must be as the thread died off rather quickly. lol

jestesjedyny wrote:

meany! ;(

xoxo ;)

jestesjedyny wrote:

No, sometimes it is not the same lol ;P I rather read a short summary paragraph than the first few sentences that may not reflect the whole content's idea.

but that may be all you get from a poster.. then the link is dead and you can't find anything about it. oops, wasted server space. :D

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Feb 18, 08, 22:16 #30

plk123 wrote:

xoxo ;)

;P

plk123 wrote:

but that may be all you get from a poster.. then the link is dead and you can't find anything about it. oops, wasted server space. :D

In that case, I don't read anything :) or if I'm really interested on the topic, I find a way to get all the information I need from Google and relate it with the posts in PF, it wouldn't be that hard ;P I rarely click on dead links. I don't care much... anyhow !! heheh

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