Starting to get really tired of all the racial threads here..

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Dec 16, 11, 06:50 #1

I confess I've contributed to topics titled "BLACK MAN IN POLAND, DO I HAVE A CHANCE?" OR "INTERRACIAL DATING IN POLAND" and I am a black man that has lived in Poland. But I've become sick of them as these kinds of threads still seem to dominate the boards. Not only that but the threads also tend to become extremely long because of prolonged arguments between just a couple of members. They often begin with an innocent question but get hijacked to become a soap box for racism, two man debates and other shenanigans...

How about inaugurating a "Race in Poland" forum? like that people can still do their thing but without overflowing into forums that could be used for other topics?

Or maybe a sticky?

WulkanThreads: 1 Posts: 343 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 07:20 #2
masks98: "Race in Poland" forum? Race in Poland is white, why would you start a forum about it?

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Dec 16, 11, 07:25 #3
Wulkan: Race in Poland is white, why would you start a forum about it? you must not live here then.

WulkanThreads: 1 Posts: 343 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 07:31 #4
pip: you must not live here then. I don't but I pop up from time to time

EM_WaveThreads: 20 Posts: 513 Joined: Nov 11, 11 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: EM_Wave Dec 16, 11, 07:52 #5
I disagree with the OP. As Poland and the rest of the EU is becoming more multicultural, it's important to discuss racial issues which can range in a variety of topics from discrimination to interracial marriage.

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Edited by: masks98 Dec 16, 11, 08:10 #6

Did I call for a ban on these discussions? I'm just saying that they merit their own forum, which would give people that want to talk about it free reign, and those who don't want to discuss such things can get on with other topics. There are many more interesting things to talk about when it comes to Poland than how polish men feel about blacks screwing 'their' women.

P.S.

I'm mostly talking about the discussion surrounding blacks, but actually there are a slew of racial/ethnic topics about the slavic race that are also annoying to see in random forums when they would be better off in their own forum.

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Dec 16, 11, 09:30 #7

pip:

you must not live here then.

Oh give over will ya!!!

You trying to say it's something else?

The race in Poland: IS White European. Hence the reason why non White Europeans are classed as Ethnic minorities. Have a guess why? Exactly .....Because any race apart from White European is the minority.

Polish 96.7%, German 0.4%, Belarusian 0.1%, Ukrainian 0.1%, other and unspecified 2.7%. See that??? 2.7% Once more for clarification..... 2.7%

Or are you trying to imply that the Polish 96.7% are anything else but predominantly white???

Oh and my time is spent between our place in Zoliborz and whichever country I am contracting in at the time. Now unless some kind of unprecedented migration took place in the last 6 weeks Warsaw remains a White European city.

You talk some drivel sometimes.

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Edited by: EM_Wave Dec 16, 11, 09:32 #8

masks98:

Did I call for a ban on these discussions? I'm just saying that they merit their own forum, which would give people that want to talk about it free reign, and those who don't want to discuss such things can get on with other topics. There are many more interesting things to talk about when it comes to Poland than how polish men feel about blacks screwing 'their' women.

P.S.

I'm mostly talking about the discussion surrounding blacks, but actually there are a slew of racial/ethnic topics about the slavic race that are also annoying to see in random forums when they would be better off in their own forum.

^I still don't understand. Why not just avoid clicking on them?

If an entire forum is created, the topics would still appear on the front page most likely.

By the way, I agree with the eruption of racism occurring in some of these threads. However, creating a new forum won't stop that. I've been lurking this site for a while now and the problem lies with the moderation. The mods simply do not take racism seriously on here. They don't ban some of the racist posters on this site which is why they continue coming here.

This site needs a rule clearly stating that any forms of racism will result in a ban. I believe the admin mentioned that racism is ok if it's on topic. I really wish he would change his policy a bit.

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Edited by: JonnyM Dec 16, 11, 09:40 #9

I agree with the OP. There is something strange and disturbing about the amount of time race issues come up here. I've been using this forum on and off for six years and it would be a much better place here without all that..

You can be accused of hijacking threads or going off-topic which is fair enough (and easy to do) however time and time again threads are hijacked and taken off topic usually ending up discussing race.

It somehow drags the place down.

Wulkan:

Race in Poland is white, why would you start a forum about it?

EdWilczynski:

The race in Poland: IS White European.

Poland is largely homogenous so discussions of race on a forum about Poland? Why?

EM_Wave:

As Poland and the rest of the EU is becoming more multicultural, it's important to discuss racial issues which can range in a variety of topics from discrimination to interracial marriage.

Once, maybe twice, perhaps even three times. But hundreds of threads and thousands of posts?

There are countless discussions of racial theory even, which is a pretty obscure topic that 99% of the world never give a thought to, much less discuss ad infinitum.

There are a few posters, trolls in every sense of the word who are truly obsessed wth race. They don't discuss it on Stormfront since everyone there would agree with them and there would be no opportunity to shock people by pretending to be extreme, by trolling etc. They know it riles some people and take an unhealthy pleasure in it.

Does anyone remember Revoke Nice, King Athelstan, Legend, Dariusz Telka, Joe Pilsudski, British Empire, Jarnowa, plus various others posting on much except race?

I propose banning the worst offenders and bringing some decency back.

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Dec 16, 11, 09:42 #10

EdWilczynski:

Oh give over will ya!!!

You trying to say it's something else?

The race in Poland: IS White European. Hence the reason why non White Europeans are classed as Ethnic minorities. Have a guess why? Exactly .....Because any race apart from White European is the minority.

Polish 96.7%, German 0.4%, Belarusian 0.1%, Ukrainian 0.1%, other and unspecified 2.7%. See that??? 2.7% Once more for clarification..... 2.7%

Or are you trying to imply that the Polish 96.7% are anything else but predominantly white???

Oh and my time is spent between our place in Zoliborz and whichever country I am contracting in at the time. Now unless some kind of unprecedented migration took place in the last 6 weeks Warsaw remains a White European city.

Hahah this is EXACTLY what i mean, this thread is already in danger of veering off into a racial discussion. just start a new forum dedicated to it, if these threads and discussions are allowed to spread throughout the site then people will just think that this is a forum for race-wars, but if they see that its all from one forum then they can click on the other ones to avoid having to see them.

you are right EM_Wave that they will appear on the frontpage regardless, which is is a result of the unfortunate new system (well not new anymore) but then if you click on the sub-forums like history or culture or general discussion it would be nice to not just have more race threads.

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Edited by: JonnyM Dec 16, 11, 09:46 #11

masks98:

Hahah this is EXACTLY what i mean, this thread is already in danger of veering off into a racial discussion.

Agreed 100%. This is how it happens. Every time. Though Ed_Wilczynski doesn't generally do it and even posts on other topics. Sometimes.

masks98:

How about inaugurating a "Race in Poland" forum?

A very good idea, providing it is enforced strictly. And perhaps named differently to avoid being a magnet for all the bedroom brownshirts who, as we see, trawl (and troll) the web.

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Edited by: EdWilczynski Dec 16, 11, 09:51 #12

JonnyM:

EdWilczynski: The race in Poland: IS White European.

Poland is largely homogenous so discussions of race on a forum about Poland? Why?

Isn't that what I said?

The fact that you choose a different word to describe essentially what I have already said smacks of pedantry.

Do you mean.....homogeneous. Note, the subtle difference with slightly different definitition.

JonnyM:

A very good idea, providing it is enforced strictly.

Then lets do the same thing with the bloody silly "I am Indian, I will study in XYZ university. Can I get employment......Ad Infinitum" threads.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 09:54 #13
EdWilczynski: Isn't that what I said? Not really, you're missing the point. The point is why the issue crops up so much here. And yes you do 'contribute' more in threads about race and ethncity than anything else.

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Edited by: Archysski Dec 16, 11, 10:01 #14

masks98:

But I've become sick of them as these kinds of threads still seem to dominate the boards.

You're right. Everytime, the racial theme is above all other topics.

EM_Wave:

As Poland and the rest of the EU is becoming more multicultural, it's important to discuss racial issues which can range in a variety of topics from discrimination to interracial marriage.

I think I once heard of a man, who also wanted to talked about the racial issues in his country and also abroad. He talked about the bad influence on the Germanic and Aryan race these people had, I think he started a big war about it, who was he again ?

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Edited by: EdWilczynski Dec 16, 11, 10:02 #15

JonnyM:

And yes you do 'contribute' more in threads about race and ethncity than anything else.

Correct I do, largely because these types of threads

EdWilczynski:

Then lets do the same thing with the bloody silly "I am Indian, I will study in XYZ university. Can I get employment......Ad Infinitum" threads.

drive me to distraction and I am acutely aware of the underlying motive.

Deny if you will but you also know EU citizenship is like arriving in the promised land to these guys.

So as for the original posters suggestion....yes.....perhaps the forum would be served better by having a category for Race & Ethnicity in Poland but I also think that posters should be forced to register. That way, the 3 gazillion posters who post the very type of message I highlight above would hopefully diminish.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 10:02 #16
EdWilczynski: Then lets do the same thing with the bloody silly "I am Indian, I will study in XYZ university. Can I get employment......Ad Infinitum" threads. At least those are asking genuine questions about Poland.

masks98Threads: 32 Posts: 374 Joined: Apr 10, 08 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 10:08 #17
Well the issue of racial attitudes in the workplace is very relevant and asking questions about it is just a matter of being practical if you're looking for work in Poland. But those questions usually show up in the jobs subforum (or whatever it is called0 and if not then yes, they should, too, go in the race in poland subforum (should there be one.)

irishbornThreads: 4 Posts: 14 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 10:10 #18
Maybe the thread moves into a racial tone bacause, deep down we're all (majority) either a bit/lot racist, or all (majority) sick of Europe being used as a blanket by non Europeans to exploit. At least when Imperialism was in fashion, countries did it with force, instead of todays drips and draps of economic/welfare tourists

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Dec 16, 11, 10:36 #19

irishborn:

Maybe the thread moves into a racial tone bacause, deep down we're all (majority) either a bit/lot racist, or all (majority) sick of Europe being used as a blanket by non Europeans to exploit.

At least when Imperialism was in fashion, countries did it with force, instead of todays drips and draps of economic/welfare tourists

This is an example of it all. It comes up here so more than in real life.

irishbornThreads: 4 Posts: 14 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 10:39 #20
JonnyM People find it easier to express their true feelings here I guess An opinion is not the same as racism though

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 10:43 #21
irishborn: People find it easier to express their true feelings here I guess That seems very unhealthy.

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Dec 16, 11, 10:56 #22

Being a Polish forum it is supposed to have a nationalistic bias. Where it goes wrong is when it becomes about race in other countries, especially about the British Isles and America.
The tram lady thread in the UK section is an example of where it could have been a valid thread on racism towards Poles by the English generally, and why they don't 'go back and fix their own country' specifically, but went off into a bunch of simpletons discussing avery aspect of racism and forgetting or, more likely, not having the intelligence to understand the point of the thread in relation to this site's theme entirely. Kudos to the mod that closed it down for a clean-up; it was going nowhere.

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Dec 16, 11, 13:09 #23
JonnyM: That seems very unhealthy. it is, but can you imagine all those idiots acting out instead of posting of forums?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 16, 11, 14:12 #24
aphrodisiac: can you imagine all those idiots acting out instead of posting of forums? No, because they would never do that.

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Dec 16, 11, 15:37 #25

JonnyM:

Once, maybe twice, perhaps even three times. But hundreds of threads and thousands of posts?

I participate in another forum about American life/politics where it's hard to avoid having racial topics because of how diverse America is. It's rare for any flaming/racism to occur because of one reason: You get banned right away for posting anything remotely racist.

Obviously that's not the case on this site.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 23:43 #26
There are too many, yes. Quite needless!

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Dec 16, 11, 23:51 #27
Oh ffs this wouldn't be PF without its usual slum of racist tw@ts. Everybody learns to ignore and get over them.

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Dec 17, 11, 00:00 #28

JonnyM:

I propose banning the worst offenders and bringing some decency back.

On the other forums I go on any racist, anti-semitic, homophobic and sexist moronic drivel is censured, and those who post such shite get banned. This forum is worse for all the shite that gets posted, and it certainly doesn't give a good impression about Poland.

There is only one race. Oh, and as someone who lives here, it is laughable to suggest that everyone is white here.

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Dec 17, 11, 00:04 #29

IanM:

On the other forums I go on any racist, anti-semitic, homophobic and sexist moronic drivel is censured, and those who post such shite get banned. This forum is worse for all the shite that gets posted, and it certainly doesn't give a good impression about Poland.

Amazing, isn't it?

I read expatua.com, englishforum.ch and toytowngermany.com all the time, as well as a few expat boards in Spain/France - and not one of them tolerates half of the nonsense that gets posted here.

But this forum certainly puts a bad image across of Poland.

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Dec 17, 11, 16:29 #30

delphiandomine:

But this forum certainly puts a bad image across of Poland.

Well, I know another Poland-based forum with many fewer people on it than here, but even there there is an obsession with Jews (and their "plot to make money out of Poland") and gays ("trying to make us all gay").

It doesn't, as you say, give a good impression of Poland. I am trying to combat prejudices about Poles being in the middle-ages, but it's hard sometimes. Luckily I know plenty good Polish people with an intelligent slant on life.

I'm relatively new on here, the reason being that upon seeing all the racist and other prejudiced posts I have nothing to learn here. There are however, now i see, some good posters here.

I would certainly consider it to be incumbent upon the administration to crack down on the shite we see here.

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