Yet another closed thread... :(

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Edited by: skysoulmate Jul 25, 10, 12:47 #1

Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands?

It's really frustrating when moderator here keep closing threads seemingly whenever they feel like it. The "out of topic" paranoia on this forum is incredibly annoying. Almost feel like I better hurry replying before:

1 - my post or the post I'm trying to reply to has been moved to the Random Thread or
2 - the thread has been closed

I realize that our moderators here are working hard however, in my humble opinion they're chasing the "out-of-subject" ghost which doesn't give them enough time to focus on issues such as use of foul or racist language, etc.

Ok, so there were some out of subject posts on the above thread I was going to reply to. So what? Don't you think we're smart enough to filter through what we don't want to read? Why do you punish all of those who kept a civilized conversation on that thread when a few members made silly or out of context comments? If anything, give them a warning, suspend them, whatever takes but why closing an interesting thread for the rest of us? You don't even let us know the thread is closed or why it was closed. The only clue is that the reply and the quote links are gone. Not cool for those of us who type a reply in a word document (spell checks, etc), come back to post it and realize the ability to reply is not there anymore.

Why this fear of being out of subject? Let the market, us, the members decide and I promise you that if we find the thread boring because of the above we'll stop visiting it ...and the perpetrators will stop.

If you see repeat offenders -> go after them. Stop closing threads, stop renaming them (without the poster's permission), stop playing the Big Brother here.

Yes, I know this is a private website, however the reason we are here is because we all feel welcome in one way or the other. We are all guilty of making out of context comments, we are all guilty of getting angry every now and then but please stop interfering all the time, enough of this overbearing mentality.

Some people here complain that the moderators are missing this or missing that. Well, with all due respect, just avoid that particular thread or don't reply to that particular poster. That's what you do at home when you watch TV, right? If someone is very offensive, deal with that one person and let him/her defend him or herself.

We have many, many disagreements here and probably always will but that's the beauty of this website, that's why we come back. To see how others look at the world, to see what bothers them and to share how we feel about their problems, to connect.

Those intermediaries we call moderators are unnecessary 90% of the time, it's like the old telephone operators of the past who were making sure the "correct connections" were being made. Let us deal with those connections or at least limit your reach to very few and very specific instances. Again, kill the random thread.

Ok, I feel better now. :)

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Jul 25, 10, 13:13 #2

Many good points in there, sky. Let's explore them:

1) Foul and racist language. I was suspended for having a laugh and reminded that certain people view this site that might have been offended by what I had written. Now, I ask you this. What is the true difference, in effect and intention, between writing f*ck and the full word with a 'u' added? I pick authority apart time and again with logical questions. They can't handle me, whether it was at work or at uni. I hear what you are saying here.

2) Filtering? Another good comment here. We are bombarded by authoritative statements and info that may not be to our liking. Ignorance is bliss! Take a leaf out of Banksy's book. He is a graffiti artist that championed the cause of self expression. As well as filtering out things he doesn't want to see time and again, he managed to create walls for OUR expression, the people. Yet again, the idiocy of the few stray sheep cause problems for the many. THEY must be dealt with and treated, not the thread and I've said that to the Mods more than once lately. DO NOT create a new thread without first exploring the search and checker options.

3) The Big Brother attitude is pervasive, sky. I'm not gonna go all Alex Jones on you here but I'll go all Lord Acton on you, LOL. 'Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. It was Jim Morrison that said 'do you know that freedom exists in a school book?'. I can understand the frustration of the Mods here. I've made a concerted effort to keep things on track and steer people back to the thread. One poster apologised to me, thanks to them again, for tittle-tattling and taking things off on a tangent unnecessarily. The sad truth is, some people just can't help themselves.

4) Disagreements? Absolutely! Americans and Europeans tend to go hammer and tongs, rather than Asians like the Japanese who tend to agree, even if they disagree inside. Variety is the spice of life and I can tell you that it was boring teaching Japanese students sometimes as they did their utmost to fit in with the group, with no subjective input. We should also allow constructive criticism of Poland. It seems to me sometimes that only Poles are allowed to do this and then other Poles tend to agree. When a foreigner does it, watch out! The claws are out and they are chased around the board by rabid demons!

5) As a final statement, why not just acknowledge that some people are evil and stupid? If I see a Heil Hitler statement, I just sidestep it and think, 'what a moron!'. Act like the person you are typing to is next to you and watching what you are writing. That'll help to, I hope!

Let it roll for all it's worth (George Harrison)

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Edited by: skysoulmate Jul 25, 10, 13:33 #3

Seanus:

THEY must be dealt with and treated, not the thread and I've said that to the Mods more than once lately. DO NOT create a new thread without first exploring the search and checker options.

I agree with you overall except the search function doesn't work very well. Also, to ask newbies to use the search function is pretty rude in my view. If you and I are such pros at using it (i'm not) then why not search it for the person who posted the question and then post a link instead? Would take about the same time. I've used the search function before and found it pretty limiting, maybe I wasn't using the right code words, I'm not sure.

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Jul 25, 10, 13:39 #4

Trust me, put in the same keywords as a newly-created thread and you'll see what I mean. For example, 'life better in Poland'. There were 2 existing threads on exactly that topic so I pulled them up to the first page and the Mods merged them. It does work, it may just be fiddly for some but getting around the world and using systems are fiddly these days, there's no getting round it. My banking society has provided me with a fiddly gadget which takes some getting used to.

It's not rude, sky. It's about operational management of the board. It takes very little time to check for the existence of similar threads.

skysoulmateThreads: 41 Posts: 3,039 Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂	Jul 25, 10, 13:45 #5
Seanus: It's not rude, sky. It's about operational management of the board. I wasn't implying you were. It's just that I've seen so many first time posters ask a question only to be told - use the search function. That I do think is rude.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 25, 10, 13:50 #6
Ah, and that ties me in with my next point. They shouldn't be allowed onto the forum without first reading the terms and conditions, of which, the important points should be highlighted. Their attention should be drawn towards the need to keep the forum manageable. Duplication is not desirable.

TechnikaThreads: 1 Posts: 30 Joined: Mar 1, 10 ♀	Jul 25, 10, 14:03 #7
On a docs forum I write on I wrote a lengthy reply hit send and found the thread closed. No big deal. I just hit back, saved the message and posted later. I asked the admin and was told content checking was the reason. Fair enough. Life carries on.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 25, 10, 14:14 #8
It does allow you to go back and then copy&paste to be sure :) Admin has been working hard on innovations for it and he's hardly getting Bill Gates style money for it. If the Mods can justify their actions, we should, of course, give them that chance. Put yourself in their shoes.

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Edited by: zetigrek Jul 25, 10, 14:21 #9

Seanus:

It seems to me sometimes that only Poles are allowed to do this and then other Poles tend to agree. When a foreigner does it, watch out!

yes exactly, u r 100% right here. I explain it this way: I can insult my mom but when some stranger insult my mom... oh that person might be kicked in ass really hard! ;)
Foreigners should watch out what words they use when they want to describe their dislikes. Mind that Poles are complex ridden nation and are tend to over interpret such things.

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Jul 25, 10, 14:32 #10

I saw this in the hospital the other day. They asked me what I thought about Poland and then they both smiled at me as if to say, you only have one way to be and that's positive. I was gonna be positive anyway as I tend to be that way out in the streets and amongst people. My enthusiasm has been described as 'infectious'. The other doctor was more candid in his estimation of some things that happen in Poland. A lovely guy, an experienced pro.

beckskiThreads: 19 Posts: 2,148 Joined: May 15, 07 MEMBER ♀	Jul 25, 10, 19:31 #11
skysoulmate: Yet another closed thread... You can always reopen a new/similar thread... A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jul 25, 10, 19:31 #12
beckski: You can always reopen a new/similar thread... Okay. xD

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