26.February 2008 - The day when Poland sold Serbia!

agreed........

Serbs/Yugoslavs didn`t support fact that Poland is in alliance with Sovet Union but, we never harmed Poland and suggested isolation (or attack) of Poland to so called West. We never suggested dissolution of Poland, partition

We had songs for Poland, about Polish free spirit


and, even now we are proud with those songs and with Poland. That`s my heritage, that I learned in school, that`s spirit of beloved dissoluted Yugosolavia, spirit of Serbia


there is no BUT

Slavic Poland which knows Serbs, does not stand behind that BUT. Some other Poland, maybe

Poland wasn't given much of a choice to be allied with Soviet Union.... Serbia has a choice and that choice is clear.....

Serbia by selling it's oil assets to Russia didn't help the slavic world.....

15% of Serbian territory is under NATO and mujaheedine occupation, separated from Serbia

Serbia don`t have choice but, to call all Slavs of this world to help her

Those who refuse to help, must be considered as traitors or weaklings of Slavdom.

those that are ally's of Russia are traitors..... the friend of my enemy is also my enemy....

disaster

go, tell that to those Poles on the streets of Poland who support Serbs, tell that to Ukrainians, to Czechs, Slovaks, Byelorussins, Bulgarians, Lithuanians, even to Slovenians...

Say that to Macedonians which in agony refuse to recognize separation of Kosovo, under pressure, while their country collapsing as new victim of NATO project- Greater Albania.


Good God!? What happened to Poland?? Where are Sarmatians???!!!

I told you I support Serbia in its quest to keep Kosovo but I will not let you sit here and diss Poland for it's choice.... Serbia hasn't been acting any better by being ally's with Russia....

In case you didn't realize, the EU has much more to offer to Poland than do Russia and Serbia....

Now, they have even more. They taken 15% of Serbian territory,... or they just think that they did it.

We shell just see that


what about Slavic Eastern Germany? ;)

hm ;)

hm, hm ;)

or should we offer that to re-expanding Czech Slavic nation? ;) ;)

Please list all the things that Russia has done for Poland?????



what about them??????

for example

Russia helped to Serbs in some decisive situations


read above

The question was what did Russia to for Poland?????? Forgive us if we don't want to be on the same side as Russia .... We cannot afford to alienate the EU.....



i read it, whats your points???????

simply. How would Serbs help to Poland in before that Russia didn`t save us? Then again, Poland also did a lot of for our salvation and Russians can be thankful to Poles, for now we are there to support them in time when NATO wants to encircle them and destroy


ah, its OK. Just be on the same side with Serbians


Why? They sold you many times, same as us? Plus, they aren`t Slavs- at least not anymore


use imagination

well stick with Russia, will see how far it will get you.... Don't you find it funny how most slavic nations support EU while only a few support Russia.....



We are...... Poles dont support Kosovo..... However we understand also that we need the EU.... we can't alienate ourselves.... though we aren't happy we had to recognize Kosovo... However we wish Serbia succeeds in getting back their country...



in the past 5 years that have been helping us a lot.... Like you said people deserve a second chance...



i don't have a problem with Slavic germans....

And no Poles are now advocating the dissolution of Serbia - You're being a tad dramatic.



Well, the last time that a government put sentimental feelings of Slav loyalty and brotherhood above political reality...

I don't agree with the decision of the Polish government, but I can understand it.



Are you advocating the annexation of German territory?

That's not a realistic prospect.



In spirit, yes, Poles are, but what more do you want? Poland can't go against the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, and Italy - And it certainly won't give up the few major allies it has in the EU to jump into the arms of Russia.

So many countries refused to recognize Kosovo.It is not a big deal.After all,it was not commonly decided by any organization that some countries have to recognize Kosovo.This is all hidden negotiations and exchanges and pressures,noone knows exactly.
Poland rejected the common Contsitution already while the pressure to accpet was enormous.Can anybody think that Poland has not the force to resist pressure for Kosovo independance?

it has for sure and that`s why I think that this thread has appropriate title- The day when Poland sold Serbia. To underline, I point on official Poland, not on Polish people who becoming aware that Serbs are victims of new `drang nach osten`.

First Tusk was elected for the simple reason to improve relations with the EU. That is exactly was he is doing..... Spain resisted because they have a seperist movement in there country so the EU is more understanding.... As far as Czech Republic I already read an article there now called the new biggest trouble maker in Europe...... So you see it does damage relations with the EU.

I suggest a new thread the day Serbia sold their oil assets for a fraction of the price to a country(Russia) that wants to dominate the slavic world.....

Serbia has been and always will be the little Pikey kid that gobs off,nicks your wallet,touches up your sister then the minute you slap its naughty little arse it goes off to get big Pikey Brother Rus..... why o why do sensible people still join in debate with this lunatic(crow)? Southern seem s cool,crows a loon and hopefully only represents a small,insignificant hooli element in serbian sociaty.

Poland has the means and the force, yes, but I don't believe it is the will of the majority to further damage relations with the major players in the European Union, otherwise, as Matthias pointed out, Tusk may not have even been elected. It seems to me that you are asking Polish voters to put Serbian concerns before their own simply out of some fantastic notion of Slav solidarity.

PEOPLE,
the sooner you start realizing that governement no longer represent the people. Our leaders are 'bought' guys; merely puppets in puppet show. As such people should not associate the actions of leaders with their people.

That is why BUSH, BROWN, MERKEL, SARKOZY, AND now TUSK all sing to the same tune.

SO DONT BE SHOCKED. YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE IF YOU ARE SICK, POOR, OR HOMELESS. IT WILL NOT CARE IF YOU ARE ASHAMED.

dont be so paranoid

But he has a point tho Matty, politicians talk a good game and there is more than a shred of truth in what he is saying

True but he takes it to the extreme........

He also made the point that u shouldn't associate the actions of leaders with the people of that country. We both agree that this is a good point Matty. Grant him a concession, radicals can get things done

Surely even that's better then Scottish bravehearts who always manage to put up a "heroic" resistance only to lose out in the end, right? :P

I do believe that taking countries to war while playing hide and seek with Bin Laden or securing the next 20 years oil supply is extreme.

Billions almost trillions have been spent just by the US on this phantom war against terror which has no end....this is the beauty of it.

IMAGINE what use this money could have been put to....

ALso consider the loss in human life....degredation of life.

He does have a point here Matty

At least someone gets my point....:-)

tell that to the muslim extremists



sure just because the war is difficult we should let the terrorists do what they please....

what are you talking about ?