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Was polishforums hacked?

strzyga Threads: 4
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  ♀ Oct 30, 2010, 10:04pm  #

well... just asking ;)
dtaylor5632 Threads: 28
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  ♂ Edited by: dtaylor5632  Oct 30, 2010, 10:59pm  #

well anyway, this crap spells the end of me on the forums. feck all this download sh1t. if admin was moving the forum then why didnt he inform any of his mods? or even the forum users? He must have known that maybe there would be a problem...
Seanus Threads: 19
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:42am  #

VII. Policy Changes

All our Privacy Policy changes will be posted on this web page two days before any major changes are to take place.

Has this been met? Just wondering!
jonni Threads: 23
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 01:51am  #

The same download thing happened to me. I was using a computer at a friends house in Warsaw. Will I now have to send him a card, like the ones VD clinics used to use, informing him he may have a virus?
ukpolska   Oct 31, 2010, 10:47am  #

I find this highly amusing in the source code,
$violating_the_copyright_may_result_in_your_criminal_responsibility=<< <out

Not going to go too deep into it but seeing as what he has used to build this forum it seems quiet contradictory lol

By the way there are no viruses in this whatsoever as convex says it is 'not' executable.
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  ♀ Oct 31, 2010, 11:56am  #

My computer has picked up circa. 3000 viruses at the moment and counting the resident shield has things in there that says "object is inaccessible"

Thanks PF!
sausage Threads: 23
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:08pm  #

Amathyst:
Thanks PF!

ukpolska:
I find this highly amusing in the source code,

This whole thread is highly amusing. These users with their virus-ridden computers. Pirate software users any of you?
Wroclaw Boy Threads: 66
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:17pm  #

sausage:
Pirate software users any of you?

Sounds about right.

I havent experienced any interruptions at all.
Teffle Threads: 26
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:20pm  #

Wroclaw Boy:
I havent experienced any interruptions at all.


Nor me. Avast reveals nothing.

I opened the file too.
sausage Threads: 23
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:21pm  #

Wroclaw Boy:
I havent experienced any interruptions at all.

You were just lucky.
The whole webserver change-over was completely mismanaged.
Letting hackers see the source code could potentially be big a security risk.
Also, has anyone experienced any posts/threads (non llama related ones) going missing?
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:33pm  #

sausage:
Also, has anyone experienced any posts/threads (non llama related ones) going missing?


i don't see anything unusual. very little is ever deleted... most off topic is simply moved.

when Random Chat is cleared one or two other threads might go too.

some old 'missing threads' might have actually been moved to the Archive.
convex Threads: 30
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 12:44pm  #

jonni:
Will I now have to send him a card, like the ones VD clinics used to use, informing him he may have a virus?

Depends on how you decided to spend your time while not being able to access the site :)

sausage:
The whole webserver change-over was completely mismanaged.

Don't know if that's what happened, looks like it. Anyway, it worked the entire time other than a quick 5 minute blip around midnight. It looks like some folks' DNS servers were still using old cached information. If you were to use opendns or google's DNS servers, guessing you wouldn't have a problem.

sausage:
Letting hackers see the source code could potentially be big a security risk.

Nah :) It's on the projects webpage for all to see :)

sausage:
Also, has anyone experienced any posts/threads (non llama related ones) going missing?

Let me know what's missing, and I'll look for it.

ukpolska:
I find this highly amusing in the source code,
$violating_the_copyright_may_result_in_your_criminal_responsibility=<< <out
Not going to go too deep into it but seeing as what he has used to build this forum it seems quiet contradictory lol

It's part of the original source. Let me quote "Copyright removal is prohibited". Open source doesn't preclude there being a copyright :)
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 01:04pm  #

convex:
If you were to use opendns or google's DNS servers, guessing you wouldn't have a problem.

Most users will be using whatever DNS their ISP provides them with. It's a known fact that DNS changes can take up to 2 days to propagate around the world.
convex:
Don't know if that's what happened, looks like it

You think admin would tell you, even if us lowly users weren't informed!
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 01:17pm  #

sausage:
Most users will be using whatever DNS their ISP provides them with. It's a known fact that DNS changes can take up to 2 days to propagate around the world.

TTL on the A record is 15 minutes. If an ISP decides to ignore the TTL, that's a complaint that should be brought up with them as it's completely out of the control of the domain owner. This day in age, there's no reason to ignore TTLs.

sausage:
You think admin would tell you, even if us lowly users weren't informed!

Won't speculate on that. Might have been done by the hosting company, like I said, who knows.

Anyway, it's done, took 5 minutes, all works now.
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  ♂ :-( Oct 31, 2010, 01:18pm  #

convex:
Anyway, it's done, took 5 minutes, all works now.


Apart from the pirate software users who have discovered what happens afterwards ;)

Though the best piece of copy protection I've ever heard of was in the SNES version of Earthbound - that was truly, truly, truly evil!
ukpolska   Oct 31, 2010, 02:00pm  #

convex:
It's part of the original source. Let me quote "Copyright removal is prohibited". Open source doesn't preclude there being a copyright :)

Your loyalty to PF is admirable here :)
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 02:12pm  #

ukpolska:
Your loyalty to PF is admirable here :)

I'm working on a merit badge.

Most FOSS projects have a copyright notice, almost are released under license. There are some projects that hunt down companies that strip the copyright and GPL/BSD/CC license out and try to pass it off as their own. Lots of big boys are guilty of it :(
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  ♂ Edited by: enkidu  Oct 31, 2010, 02:24pm  #

convex:
ukpolska:
I find this highly amusing in the source code,
$violating_the_copyright_may_result_in_your_criminal_responsibility=<< <out
Not going to go too deep into it but seeing as what he has used to build this forum it seems quiet contradictory lol

It's part of the original source. Let me quote "Copyright removal is prohibited". Open source doesn't preclude there being a copyright :)


"Open Source" doesn't necessary meant "No Copyrights".
For instance - the original script of this forum is based on the open source, but it's free (free of charge) only if the copyright link and notes are not removed.

Notes from the original developers:
For that case, XXXXX team, as the only exclusive developers of this software, has exclusive right to offer special premium license, which is, in general, our agreement between you and us, which allows you to hide or remove our copyright link from public. This way you will be allowed to keep only your own public copyright.

We may suppose that our admin has paid license fee and is entitled to remove any copyrights notes.
If he didn't paid, then he can be sued. But this is not our problem and it shall not concern us.

Downloaded file

This is a well known glitch in the Firefox browser. Sometimes it's just happen.
If the file has got an .php extension and you are not running any www server software on your computer - there is nothing to be afraid of.

Source code

On FF browser, the source code of any website can be viewed by pressing ctrl+u.
Nothing special about this.
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 02:52pm  #

enkidu:
On FF browser, the source code of any website can be viewed by pressing ctrl+u.

this is to view the html markup code of the web page, which is completely different to the scripts that run on the webserver
dtaylor5632 Threads: 28
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 02:55pm  #

I'm back, on IE at least!
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 02:56pm  #

sausage:
this is to view the html markup code of the web page, which is completely different to the scripts that run on the webserver


Exactly. But source code contained in the downloaded .php file is exactly the same.
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 02:59pm  #

enkidu:
Exactly. But source code contained in the downloaded .php file is exactly the same.

it's not. you can't just see the source code of any website you want to. php code is processed before sending to the user's browser. (unless the server has gone wrong!)
ukpolska   Edited by: ukpolska  Oct 31, 2010, 03:07pm  #

enkidu:
Exactly. But source code contained in the downloaded .php file is exactly the same.

Sorry my friend you are wrong as that source codes the page you are on, not the actual php of the forum, there are ways of doing it but it is a lengthy process and more to the point why would want to do that.
Mind you it could be quiet entertaining having a look at how many times espana has been called idiot by pm, but then again I come back to the point of why?
We all know he is anyway, so we wouldn't achieve anything by proving it lol
enkidu Threads: 16
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 03:21pm  #

Guys - this thread was started by someone who accidentally downloaded an "unknown file" instead opening the page.

I agree - downloading the server-side php source code is impossible (well at least until the server security settings are in the state of complete FUBAR).

I suppose that what they downloaded is an index.php file. You can do the same.
Instructions for FF:
- right click on the Latest
- from the context menu choose Save link as...

The download manager will start, and you could download index.php file.

If you take a look at the code of this file, you will probably find out that it is identical to the effects of ctrl+u.

Pleeeeease.
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 03:26pm  #

sorry enkidu, you don't really know what you're talking about. yesterday and the day before i was able to see the php source code
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 03:27pm  #

enkidu:
downloading the server-side php source code is impossible

That's sh1t, I have 59 copies so far :/
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 03:30pm  #

dtaylor5632:
That's sh1t, I have 59 copies so far :/


Send me one, please. I find it really interesting!
Or at least give me a names of this files.
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 03:32pm  #

enkidu:
This is a well known glitch in the Firefox browser. Sometimes it's just happen.


so the question is: are the people who had/are having problems using firefox ?
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  ♂ :-( Oct 31, 2010, 03:32pm  #

Wroclaw:
so the question is: are the people who had/are having problems using firefox ?


Google Chrome is still broken - it's not a DNS issue, because it's working in IE.
dtaylor5632 Threads: 28
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  ♂ Oct 31, 2010, 03:35pm  #

Wroclaw:
so the question is: are the people who had/are having problems using firefox ?

No, its actually more simple than that ;)
enkidu:
Send me one, please. I find it really interesting!

Errrr no! the mods have copies if they need to use them.
delphiandomine:
Google Chrome is still broken - it's not a DNS issue, because it's working in IE.

Pm me and ill tell you how to fix it simply ;)


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