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Justyna69 [Guest]
  May 23, 07, 17:11  #481

Quoting: Ken Noddy
you are a bit of a dreamer.

LOl not really just tried to be nice to you

 
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southern
  May 23, 07, 18:20  #482

Ken Noddy now you have to chose.It is a critical decision.Will you turn to justyna or are you willing to give unicornes a chance?Both girls anticipate your decision.They hold your breath til you make your statement.

 
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southern
  May 23, 07, 18:21  #483

Who will be the lucky girl to join Ken Noddy to the sea of hapiness?
Both girls have to struggle to win his favour.

 
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Justyna69 [Guest]
  May 23, 07, 19:05  #484

Quoting: southern
Who will be the lucky girl to join Ken Noddy to the sea of hapiness?
Both girls have to struggle to win his favour.

LMAO southern you're pathetic.. It sounds like.......why can't it be me and not Ken? LOL

 
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Hueg
  May 23, 07, 19:36  #485

oh i'm sure that you've met southern on a <insert favourite method of public transport here matron> already J, you just don't remember it yet. :)

He's a one man banned. I never knew Admin was Italian Luigi.

 
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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 01:02  #486

ken, I didnt mean for it to sound so harsh, its more of a get you going post.

I know your not alone in being shy, alot of people are shy. but why are your
standards so high that you would be so afraid of someone. or intimidated by
someone?

its funny, my husband, when we met, I thought he was a jerk. he came up
next to me at the bar. I thought to myself, how arrogant and stuck on himself
and didnt know he was doing this to impress me.. anyway, he didnt look at me at
first, I sat there mad as hell, thinking, go away.. but he looked up and smiled
and said hi. and I melted. but I didnt show that, I more or less played the hard to
get.. so even if you think its rejection , it might be just the hard to get, because
not always does a woman want to show she is weak in the knees around a man.

this isnt good for our female state of mind. give in the first time, and its all over with.

so yes, we have to hold back too, what you think is to reserved is just our inner
person holding back the excitement.. the day that I met my husband, i had the girl
meeting in the bathroom with my friends, and they all were asking me what he said
and all I could do was get a hold of myself and go back out and act non chalant so that he didnt get the impression that i was more then excited..

and ken, I bet your better looking then you think, everyone is critical of themselfs
you can always find something wrong, but everyone has imperfections, so dont
be all depressed that your different, cause your not.

like I said, go out, buy that new suit, spend some cash on yourself.
smile at the guy in the mirror..

 
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Ken Noddy
  May 24, 07, 02:30  #487

Quoting: Patrycja19
I know your not alone in being shy, alot of people are shy. but why are your
standards so high that you would be so afraid of someone. or intimidated by
someone?


I don't know. I'm guessing that I've subconsciously given women total power over me. They are the ones who can ultimately determine my life. They are the ones who reject my advances, they are the ones who can decide if I'm happy or sad. I think I have given other people way too much control over my life. Taking this power back is difficult, I feel that I am being selfish. I have always put the needs of others before my own and I'm just a bit fed up with life, the universe and everything at the moment.
Your story of how you met your husband is nice. The moral I guess is to never judge a book by its cover.

 
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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 08:52  #488

Quoting: Ken Noddy
I feel that I am being selfish. I have always put the needs of others before my own and I'm just a bit fed up with life, the universe and everything at the moment.


I have always put the needs of others before myself, theres nothing wrong with
that, and as Ive said before in another thread, its better to say I have loved
then to never have loved at all. not knowing this feeling or denying it is denying
oneself the chance to feel.. so just because you have a caring nature, doesnt mean
your less of a man, it makes you more a man to show this rather then hide it behind
a masked smile.

Being fed up with life? only because you cant accept rejection? its part of life, if
someone isnt attracted to someone , its part of acceptance. being scared is
a natural feeling, but you have to be able to handle the blow, we all have rejection
the Word No exists in our language and it always will. theres someone for everyone
you have to remember that. and you might get several Nos before you get to the
yes I will have dinner with you tonight. physical attraction and mental attraction
both have to be two sided. you dont want this person going with you just because
they feel sorry for you. bring the man back to the table ken. you dont have to be
rough on the exterior, just hold your head up high and confident. but do some
things for yourself too. maybe take up going to the gym. or find spiritual advisor?

and for god sakes date someone who matches you, not someone you feel is out
of your league, you cant experience love that way, your be fumbling to please and
this isnt love, this is lust.. love is entirely different. its not a fantasy, its real.

 
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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 08:55  #489

Quoting: Ken Noddy
Your story of how you met your husband is nice. The moral I guess is to never judge a book by its cover.


we still are together, spite the days when I want to ring his neck.. lol but we do
love each other, not everything is perfect, nor should anyone expect it to be.
marriage is something you have to work at.. even in the toughest times.

 
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Ken Noddy
  May 24, 07, 09:52  #490

Quoting: Patrycja19
and for god sakes date someone who matches you, not someone you feel is out of your league


At the moment I feel that everyone is out of my league. I know in the past I have gone for unrealistic women, I think my current target is even more unrealistic. How do I know who is and isn't a realistic person to go for?

 
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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 09:56  #491

Quoting: Ken Noddy
At the moment I feel that everyone is out of my league. I know in the past I have gone for unrealistic women, I think my current target is even more unrealistic. How do I know who is and isn't a realistic person to go for?

You're thinking waaaay too much about it Ken. Just be a man and do your thing. Have you ever thought you might not be interested in women at all? You shouldn't be having a hard time talking with women..it's natural for a man to do. Is she smoking hot or sth and you're scared?

 
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szarlotka ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  May 24, 07, 09:58  #492

Ken,

Hope you don't mind me asking this and feel free to tell me to butt out (I won't be offended in any way) but do your problems start because of the unease you feel of actually talking to the girls you fancy? Is it that you know want you want to say but just have a lack of confidence in saying it? Because if it's just nerves there are proven techniques to train your brain to calm you down and relax you. I was petrified of public speaking even on subjects that I knew backwards and one simple trick 'cured' me within 2 or 3 minutes.

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glowa
  May 24, 07, 10:02  #493

Quoting: szarlotka
and one simple trick 'cured' me within 2 or 3 minutes.


i'd like to know the secret!

 
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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 10:02  #494

Quoting: Ken Noddy
At the moment I feel that everyone is out of my league. I know in the past I have gone for unrealistic women, I think my current target is even more unrealistic. How do I know who is and isn't a realistic person to go for?


well, what type of person do you feel you are..

outspoken? quiet, people watcher? energetic?

do you like indoors? outdoors? clubs or fine dining? walks on a beach or partys in
the sand?

thats what I meant about finding yourself first. do you want someone like you or
oppsite?

are you avid reader? do you go to librarys ?

all these things you need to find out about yourself first. how can you know what
you want out of life if you cant figure out what you love in your life?

Ken, you may email me, we shall get you thru this. somehow , some way.
but keep talking about it, what you feel daily is important. did you go get that
spiffy suit yet?

another thing, take a first step towards confidence. post your picture or put it
in your profile so we can know you as you are. were all friends here, so no ones
going to judge , its just a step forward thats all. you dont have to, but I do
encourage it, most of the time people are afraid of what others will think, and we
want to get past that , do it, say I dont care what you think this is me accept it
or kiss my :)

 
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szarlotka ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  May 24, 07, 10:07  #495

Quoting: glowa
i'd like to know the secret!


If you're serious I'd be happy to share it with you.

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glowa
Edited by: glowa  May 24, 07, 10:07  #496

Quoting: szarlotka

Quoting: glowa
i'd like to know the secret!


If you're serious I'd be happy to share it with you.

very much so, please do

but I'm going off the net now, will be back online tomorrow.

 
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szarlotka ♦ GOLD MEMBER
Edited by: szarlotka  May 24, 07, 10:28  #497

OK glowa..... here goes.

It is a simple technique that was taught to me by an actor friend of mine who when he is in between parts teaches presentation skills for some of the big UK corporates. He claims that it works in about 80-90% of cases.

The pre-requisite is that at some time in your life you must have been really, really scared. The basic process is to sit down,close your eyes, lots of deep breathing and try to clear your mind of all thoughts. Then you are asked by a friend to remember the scary experience. You have to think very deeply about the experience, to recall your emotions when scared, sweaty hands, shallow breathing or whatver your reactions were. Think about the moment for 30 seconds. Then (since you're still alive and must have come out of the experience) you have to remember the time when your fear started to subside. Feel the emotions of relief that you had. Follow the calming process in your mind until you reach the point when you were 'safe' once more. Think of one word that sums up something that happended to make you begin to feel safe. Say this word out loud just once or twice. Open your eyes again. The idea is that word becomes your trigger for the brain to release the chemicals upon demand when you need to feel calm. When you want to feel calm simply say this word out loud as quietly as you like and you should feel the calmness spreading over you. Sounds wacky but it worked and still works for me.

It's difficult to write it down like this. My example may help. When I was learning to hang glide the time came for my first solo flight of any distance as a part of my training. I was told to fly over a small ridge and land at the bottom of the slope. I didn't know that over the small ridge was a 700 foot drop! When I cleared the ridge I was scared stiff. I froze and all the training disappeared. Then the instructor called me on the two way radio. The radio crackled into life and his calm reassuring voice came over. He talked me through the flight and from being scared I relaxed and started to enjoy the fantatstic feeling of flying like a bird. The word I chose was 'crackle'. Even today, 20 years after I was 'programmed' it still works.

Long winded post - sorry. Give it a go

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Lady in red [Guest]
  May 24, 07, 14:44  #498

Hi Ken, it's not really my place to comment but have been following the thread and it appears you are playing it all out in your head rather than living in the real world. Ask her out. If she is interested then she will say 'yes' if she isn't then she will say 'no', Then you can move on. It can't be love as you haven't even gone out with her yet !! More like you are infatuated with her ?

I really feel for you and I'm sorry it is making you really anxious and stressed out. You shouldn't be feeling like this and it sounds like you need to move on and maybe ask someone esle out and see where that goes ? Just a thought. But please, get back into the real world and not a make belive one :)

 
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southern
  May 24, 07, 16:04  #499

No Ken you do not need to move.Just stay there with legs slightly open,staring her with the killer look and touch your lips moving your tongue like the Martini man.She will leave the ugly boss in no time.

 
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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 16:07  #500

Quoting: southern
staring her with the killer look and touch your lips moving your tongue like the Martini man.

Ha. Lick your lips?

You'd look like a complete idiot doing this, unless you're joking with someone you know of course.

Southern..you must be joking right?

 
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southern
  May 24, 07, 16:09  #501

If Martini man did not succeed with this,why should it be on advertisement?

 
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stepheng
  May 24, 07, 16:33  #502

Quoting: southern

If Martini man did not succeed with this,why should it be on advertisement?


Because adverts are cheesy and fake.

 
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southern
  May 24, 07, 16:40  #503

What would you suggest to him instead?To dance some booty to draw her attention?

 
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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 16:41  #504

Quoting: southern
To dance some booty to draw her attention?

You have a lot to learn. Must be a young buck. Thereare better ways of wooing a woman.

 
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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  May 24, 07, 16:43  #505

Lesson 1

Conversation: Keep your mouth shut and Listen :) Pay attention to her in conversation.

 
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southern
  May 24, 07, 16:52  #506

You have to lead.She has to listen.Or look at your booty.

 
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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 17:04  #507

Quoting: southern
You have to lead.She has to listen.Or look at your booty.

:/ no wonder you're at the PC :)

 
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southern
  May 24, 07, 17:06  #508

Quoting: FISZ
no wonder you're at the PC :)

While you are at the PC but a girl serves you under the desk.

 
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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 17:07  #509

no class

 
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southern
  May 24, 07, 17:10  #510

Between men there should be solidarity.Have you noticed what big fraternities women have built in the forum?You accuse one and a hundred answer.A hundred against one wolf every time.

 
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