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How common GMO Food in Poland is?


rychlik 41 | 372
22 Nov 2012 #1
Hi....how common is genetically modified food in Poland? It's supposed to be bad stuff. I just read that Poland is not complying with the agreed upon ban from the EU.

What's wrong with Poland?! Should people be worried?
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
22 Nov 2012 #2
Hi....how common is genetically modified food in Poland? It's supposed to be bad stuff.

It's all genetically modified food since we've been selecting and growing the stuff ourselves.

I just read that Poland is not complying with the agreed upon ban from the EU.

I doubt that the E.U. could ban such a thing.

What's wrong with Poland?! Should people be worried?

People should definitely worry, if there are no points being made, no arguments being put forward and really no logic, then people really should worry, a lot.

My major guff with GM foods are corrupt, monopolising, and immoral companies like monsanto.
GM foods were really meant to end world hunger, instead it just seems to be going towards an Orwellian nightmare.
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
22 Nov 2012 #3
almost all food you and I eat is a food modified genetically. remember- wheat, rye, cattle etc all of them are modified, they are all different than their ancestors.
OP rychlik 41 | 372
23 Nov 2012 #4
I learned that Monsanto can't do business in Germany, France, Austria, among others.

"Poland failing to comply with EU GMO monitoring rules
Wednesday November 21 2012

The European Commission has today called on Poland to amend its legislation in order to comply with EU rules on monitoring the cultivation of genetically-modified organisms (GMOs).

The country has not implemented EU laws that require GMO cultivation locations to be notified to the relevant national authorities, established in a national register and made known to the public."

agra-net.com/portal2/home.jsp?template=newsarticle&artid=20018005998&pubid=ag002
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
23 Nov 2012 #5
Polish president vetoes bill allowing GMO seeds reuters

But nothing about:

The country has not implemented EU laws that require GMO cultivation locations to be notified to the relevant national authorities, established in a national register and made known to the public."

Except for the link you provided.

Also good to see on my google search are:

Poland imposes ban on Monsanto MON810 genetically modified maize
Poland Announces Complete Ban on Monsanto's Genetically Modified Maize
Barney 15 | 1,590
23 Nov 2012 #6
It's supposed to be bad stuff.

Yeah it is, true that humans have selectively bred plants and animals for ever but GMO as understood today is something else altogether.

It’s a con by agri/chemical business to sell more product nothing more.

Making something resistant to your herbicide or pesticide can only mean you want to sell more product. The chances of cross contamination are huge. Maiz in Europe is one that cannot cross with native species. As for other plants, if you opt to not want to eat GMO you will have no choice as once it’s out there it cannot be put back.

The long and short is that GMO = More chemicals.
OP rychlik 41 | 372
23 Nov 2012 #7
The article link I posted was from yesterday. Maybe we'll learn more on this soon.

I have a feeling the Americans are to blame for this this. They're big proponents of GMO crops.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
23 Nov 2012 #8
This is all up to the company that produces it and the governments that allow it but not directly because of the GMO itself.
pip 10 | 1,659
23 Nov 2012 #9
I have a feeling the Americans are to blame for this this. They're big proponents of GMO crops.

yes, and the Germans
Marysienka 1 | 195
23 Nov 2012 #10
The country has not implemented EU laws that require GMO cultivation locations to be notified to the relevant national authorities, established in a national register and made known to the public.

You can find it on "onet" too and PAP is credited.

Sejm has accepted a law (proposed by President), that Polish Government will be able to ban GMO cultivation without consultation with UE.

I'm not good with this kind of English :(
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poland_
23 Nov 2012 #11
Hi....how common is genetically modified food in Poland? It's supposed to be bad stuff. I just read that Poland is not complying with the agreed upon ban from the EU.

Have a look at these links it will give you a good idea of the status:

gmo-free-regions.org/gmo-free-regions/poland/gmo-free-news-from-poland.html
polonius 54 | 420
25 Nov 2012 #12
Merged: Farmers protesting v GMO

Several hundred farmers from all over Poland are demonstrating outside the presidential palace, TVP INFO rerpots. They want President Komorowski to veto a GMO bill which they say effectively introduces GMO seed in Poland. They argue the bill has been purged of the president’s own proposals and does not require seed producers to clearly label their seed as GMO-free. Last year Komorowski vetoed a GMO bill, but the Sejm later passed a modified version forced on Poland by the EU. “GMO sieje zło” (GMO sows evil) said one of the protesters’ placards.

What's your take on the GMO controversy?
Ironside 53 | 12,357
25 Nov 2012 #13
What's wrong with Poland?!

I keep telling you but you rather listen to pawian and such......... phew!
pip 10 | 1,659
25 Nov 2012 #14
gmo is nothing but poison. it starts with the seeds that grow the grains that get fed to animals that we eat. we get a double dose from grains, meats and dairy.

it is toxic. it is only used to increase profits- nothing more. we can't have it.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,911
25 Nov 2012 #15
What is the difference between GMO and all the different cross breeding of plant varieties that has been going on for many years before the term GMO came to the fore? I am just asking as not sure.

nongmoproject.org/learn-more/what-is-gmo/
pip 10 | 1,659
25 Nov 2012 #16
csiro.au/en/Outcomes/Food-and-Agriculture/What-is-the-difference-between-conventional-and-GM-plant-breeding.aspx
this is an Australian link.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,911
25 Nov 2012 #17
Thanks Pip, although that link you gave seems supportive of GMO
pip 10 | 1,659
25 Nov 2012 #18
yes, I noticed that but I thought it was a good comparison of what the two are.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
25 Nov 2012 #19
Genetically modified food controversies Wikipedia
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
25 Nov 2012 #20
gmo is nothing but poison. it starts with the seeds that grow the grains that get fed to animals that we eat. we get a double dose from grains, meats and dairy.

what a ********
f stop 25 | 2,507
26 Nov 2012 #21
I think marijuana has been GMO's and I don't like it at all.
;)
polonius 54 | 420
26 Nov 2012 #22
We are told this is the 'information society', but in many cases an apter term might be 'information buzz society'. The GMO issue is a good example. A farmer was shown on Poilish TV holding an ear of maize and showing where a pest (a certain species of caterpillar) had left a chew mark. According to him, eating such contaminated maize can even cause cancer, but the pest cannot thrive in GMO crops. At the same time celebrities Doda and Edyta Herbuś took part in yesty's Warsaw demo saying they would never feed GMO-contaminated food to their families. Today a prof. Golik (if I recall the name correctly) authoritatively stated that years of research had not produced a shred of evidence that GMO is harmful to people's health of the environment.

The point is the average person cannot be as botanist, entymologist, parasitologist, etc., so whom should he believe? This applies to many controversies, not only in the GMO, food and health fields.

Those churning out information and/or disinforamtion are mostly lobbyists, advertisers, PR experts, political agitators and others promoting some product or agenda. Unfortunately many media people are also on somebody's payroll.
pip 10 | 1,659
26 Nov 2012 #23
exactly, Polonius, so I would rather be cautious. but when there is mass amounts of money to be made----it is not usually beneficial to anybody but those making the money.

making crops grow faster doesn't make sense. it is gluttony at its worst. these crops are not used to help feed third world countries - these crops and all the run off from them are helping the Western world get fatter and sicker than ever.

and it has hit Poland at an alarming rate. Yesterday I was in a shopping centre in Warsaw and I was shocked at all the obese people in line at the Burger KIng- this didn't exist 5 years ago. and it is sad.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
26 Nov 2012 #24
At the same time celebrities Doda and Edyta Herbuś took part in yesty's Warsaw demo saying they would never feed GMO-contaminated food to their families.

Did they say why and back it up with credible evidence?

years of research had not produced a shred of evidence that GMO is harmful to people's health of the environment.

That's what every non-bias credible report I have read on it states from professionals.

, so whom should he believe?

The pretty pop stars or the researchers who have been examining the subject matter in depth?
Pretty popstars all the way :)
polonius 54 | 420
26 Nov 2012 #25
In theoryy yes, but nowadays scientists, academics and other 'authroiteis' can also be on the take in our hyper-commercial world. BTW. I was informed that Herbuś once said she would never do anything she wasn't paid for.


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